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So what is the 24" LCD of choice now? in the $600usd range. mostly photography, internet etc. Is the new Dell HC not quite the older model?
Originally posted by: BernardP
Samsung 215TW is discontinued:
Confirmed by Samsung
and this retailer
Input lag is a turnoff mostly for hardcore gamers in FPS games. NCIX, in Vancouver has the 215TW for less than $500 now, so it could be an option.Originally posted by: fillalph
Another one of the suggestion posts.
Size wise: 19 - 24
Price: 399 or so (MAYBE a bit more if it was worth it)
Usage: I have a dSLR and want to get into some post processing (I am a hobbyist only though). Spend time doing "office" work such as surfing the net, word processing, MATLAB, I use AutoCAD a bit too. As for gaming, I don't really.Location: Vancouver, Canada (not sure if it would help)
The Samsung 215T looked alright, but the input lag was a turn off.
I gave the 226WT/WTX a good look but this thread really turned me off from it: http://forums.dpreview.com/for...=22694763&q=226wt&qf=m
I thought about the Samsung 226BW. I didn't see it listed anywhere in xtknight's recommendation list though.
(Is it worth waiting for the Samsung 226CW or the high gamut from LG?)
Originally posted by: fillalph
The 215WT looks like a decent monitor. A bit more than I want to spend though. I would love to see what the input lag is like though. Hopefully I can find one on display somewhere or from a big box store where I can return it if it isn't up to par.
I noticed that some monitors that were listed on the first page in the recommended section aren't there any longer (Samsung215WT) for instance. Any particular reason for removing it?Thanks
Originally posted by: xtknight
HOME THEATER PC
Westinghouse LVM-37W3
Sceptre X37SV-Naga
47 total: 29.8% TN, 29.8% IPS, 40.4% VA
Originally posted by: ST
Originally posted by: xtknight
HOME THEATER PC
Westinghouse LVM-37W3
Sceptre X37SV-Naga
47 total: 29.8% TN, 29.8% IPS, 40.4% VA
As one of the first ones to utilize the Westy's and Sceptres here, I would recommend you include my present 1080p HTPC LCD nowadays: Westy 47" LCM (or even the newer TX models with built in tuners).....easily better picture then my previous 37" Sceptres / Westys.
Originally posted by: mingus
So what is the 24" LCD of choice now? in the $600usd range. mostly photography, internet etc. Is the new Dell HC not quite the older model?
Originally posted by: fillalph
Another one of the suggestion posts.
Size wise: 19 - 24
Price: 399 or so (MAYBE a bit more if it was worth it)
Usage: I have a dSLR and want to get into some post processing (I am a hobbyist only though). Spend time doing "office" work such as surfing the net, word processing, MATLAB, I use AutoCAD a bit too. As for gaming, I don't really. It would be nice to be able to though, but I am not hardcore at all (Starcraft I is a sweet game .
Note: I move a lot (student, different dorms etc) so I think a matte screen might be better as my lighting situation will change (not a huge factor though)
Location: Vancouver, Canada (not sure if it would help)
The Samsung 215T looked alright, but the input lag was a turn off.
I gave the 226WT/WTX a good look but this thread really turned me off from it: http://forums.dpreview.com/for...=22694763&q=226wt&qf=m
I thought about the Samsung 226BW. I didn't see it listed anywhere in xtknight's recommendation list though.
(Is it worth waiting for the Samsung 226CW or the high gamut from LG?)
Originally posted by: DRavisher
Forgot to say thanks for a great thread and input xtknight
Any particular reason the HP LP3065 isn't on your list? It seems likely it's the same panel as the Dell 3007WFP-HC, and has three DVI ports. Just wondering since I'll likely be buying one of these two displays soon.
Originally posted by: amking
alright xtknight i guess i'm finally going to make the transition to an lcd (been looking on and off @ them + this thread for well over a year now). the main reason i'm now actively looking (again) to purchase is b/c the 20wmgx2 is down to $430 + shipping, as you know. however i havent just gone and purchased one because i recently have had the chance to extensively use a couple different lcd's (mostly TN panel samsungs) and i thought they looked very good. i'm more or less thinking that if i cant even tell the difference, why spend extra money just for a panel that resides in a ***** case with poor design/ergonomics? i believe the model i used the most was the samsung 226bw.
last year when i got into all this lcd research (and trying out some models) i picked up a 2007wfp (pva) and returned it b/c it (to me) had a nasty screen door look to it and i couldnt stand it. it really did have a great design tho... such a shame. anyway i wanted to ask, have TN panels/technology improved at all since then? why do you think the samsung looked so acceptable to me? given the specs of my ideal monitor below, what do you recommend?
1680x1050
20.1"-22"
fast enough for fps games
height adjustment
the last one can be left off i guess... but i really prefer 1680x1050 to 1920x1080 and will be playing games like 2142, cs/hl2, and cod4. i noticed the pixel pitch on the smaller monitors is lower... is it a huge difference? is a 21" an acceptable middle ground?
so far i have noted the following models with some interest:
LCD2070WNX-BK
225BW/216BW/226BW
L206WTY
Is there anything "wrong" with any of those lcds? What do you think my chances of getting a good 2007wfp are these days?
Originally posted by: amking
alright xtknight i guess i'm finally going to make the transition to an lcd (been looking on and off @ them + this thread for well over a year now). the main reason i'm now actively looking (again) to purchase is b/c the 20wmgx2 is down to $430 + shipping, as you know. however i havent just gone and purchased one because i recently have had the chance to extensively use a couple different lcd's (mostly TN panel samsungs) and i thought they looked very good. i'm more or less thinking that if i cant even tell the difference, why spend extra money just for a panel that resides in a ***** case with poor design/ergonomics? i believe the model i used the most was the samsung 226bw.
last year when i got into all this lcd research (and trying out some models) i picked up a 2007wfp (pva) and returned it b/c it (to me) had a nasty screen door look to it and i couldnt stand it. it really did have a great design tho... such a shame. anyway i wanted to ask, have TN panels/technology improved at all since then? why do you think the samsung looked so acceptable to me? given the specs of my ideal monitor below, what do you recommend?
1680x1050
20.1"-22"
fast enough for fps games
height adjustment
the last one can be left off i guess... but i really prefer 1680x1050 to 1920x1080 and will be playing games like 2142, cs/hl2, and cod4. i noticed the pixel pitch on the smaller monitors is lower... is it a huge difference? is a 21" an acceptable middle ground?
so far i have noted the following models with some interest:
LCD2070WNX-BK
225BW/216BW/226BW
L206WTY
Is there anything "wrong" with any of those lcds? What do you think my chances of getting a good 2007wfp are these days?
Originally posted by: goldpete
I've been researching for a 22" LCD and happened to stumble upon this thread and I must say that this has been the most comprehensive source of information that I could ask for; kudos to you xtknight for your extensive wealth of data.
Originally, I was leaning towards the Samsung 226BW but after reading this thread it sounds like my choice will be a LG L226WT variant, which brings me to my question: what do you recommend as the minimum for videocards for gaming on a 22" and a 24" LCD respectively?
I also looked at the 24 inchers from Dell, HP, and Samsung but I couldn't justify the $200+ for the additional 2 inches, power consumption, and lag, comparatively.
Currently, I have an aging system (2.0 P4, 1G RAM, 7600GT (agp), VP930b) that I will replace in the future.
Originally posted by: lowboyee
Originally posted by: xtknight
Hmm..sorry, I don't know much about laptop LCDs. I knew IBM had some IPS ones in some of their Thinkpads, but that's about it. Laptop LCDs are almost never tested, although AnandTech had one small round-up ending in disappointing results.
The IPS was marketed as the Flexview, which was widely regarded as a great screen. It's a shame that it was only a 4:3 panel and they discontinued offering it in the last generation of laptops. It's a sad state of affairs in the laptop screen world...
In better news, I need a monitor for development, design, and photo editing. From what I've read (this guide and otherwise), I'm leaning towards the Samsung 215TW or NEC 20WMG, but the glossy screen on the NEC is somewhat worrying.
Originally posted by: xtknight
Originally posted by: amking
last year when i got into all this lcd research (and trying out some models) i picked up a 2007wfp (pva) and returned it b/c it (to me) had a nasty screen door look to it and i couldnt stand it. it really did have a great design tho... such a shame. anyway i wanted to ask, have TN panels/technology improved at all since then? why do you think the samsung looked so acceptable to me? given the specs of my ideal monitor below, what do you recommend?
TNs actually have improved quite a bit. The only outstanding issue with them these days is viewing angle. Color reproduction is quite good.
1680x1050
20.1"-22"
fast enough for fps games
height adjustment
the last one can be left off i guess... but i really prefer 1680x1050 to 1920x1080 and will be playing games like 2142, cs/hl2, and cod4. i noticed the pixel pitch on the smaller monitors is lower... is it a huge difference? is a 21" an acceptable middle ground?
I'd actually prefer a 21" or 22" screen myself. The 20.1" is too small for text.
so far i have noted the following models with some interest:
LCD2070WNX-BK
225BW/216BW/226BW
L206WTY
Is there anything "wrong" with any of those lcds? What do you think my chances of getting a good 2007wfp are these days?
The Samsung 226BW might be your best choice since you can get color profiles for all panel variations of it.
The L226WTQ/L226WTY would be my choice. It doesn't have height adjustment, however.
Getting an S-IPS in a 2007WFP today is probably less likely, but again I don't read up on it everyday. I'm still not going to recommend it ever again until it is all S-IPS. Check HardForum.