[Retired] The LCD Thread

[Compellor]

Originally posted by: Majed
Compellor...it's look like you've edited your reply about LG..the last 2 lines right?! something diffrent as i remember!.

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Compellor.. i want to ask you about the Quality/performance of non-native resolutions on pc with games.
my hp w2207 do it well..what about LG?
will be glade to answering me this.
or any one here?

I mentioned I was going to take the LG back and get the Dell. I think I'll hold on to the LG a few more days and do more testing.

Non-native screen resolutions look pretty good. 1680x1050 looks good and only shows a slight amount of blur. Aspect scaling may work on this monitor but I can't seem to get it to work. NVIDIA says it's supported with the lastest drivers for Vista but I'm not having any luck.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: Majed

Originally posted by: xtknight

The LG is better for response time but it's a normal gamut monitor. I would recommend the BenQ FP241W (also normal gamut) personally.

thanks xtknight for yout comment.
i have one question.
you've recommended this BenQ FP241W.. is it the same like BenQ FP241Wz?
i think it's the same but i need to be sure.

The Z model is not the same. The FP241WZ has the black-bar-scanning technology to reduce response time, which some people think causes flicker. However, that technology can be turned off so the FP241WZ is the better buy.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: Nnyan
So after much testing it looks the the issues I have with LCD dizzyness as just a matter of adjusting to them (and making a few adjustments thanks for the tips xtknight!). I've also found that I prefer the glossy screens.

So now I'm down to three choices, the 20WMGX2, the Acer AL2051W and the Soyo 24. I'm mostly gaming and coding and I just can't decide. I'm going to go look at the Soyo in OM tonight since they have one hooked up to a PC with a few games on it maybe that will help.

I don't know much about the Soyo 24" to tell you the truth but the 20WMGX2 is an infallible choice. If you like the looks of the Soyo then grab that but keep in mind it's not glossy and as a result may be harder on the eyes. If I were in your position I would get the 20WMGX2 then wait for a more worthwhile size+gamut upgrade in the future.

 

[konakona]

actually I am going with soyo... evidence is mounting that it is indeed a S-PVA. Does glossy panel really make that much difference?

 

[spacecolonyone]

I know it has been said (typed) already but This thread is superb.

Anyway, I am probably in the market to replace my old Samsung 172x and have been doing a bit of digging. This of course has led to a few questions/observations.

First off, I have begun to wonder if I unique in hating LCDs with integrated power supplies? By my thinking LCD monitors are meant to be svelte, beautiful creations and building in power circuitry pretty much precludes that. One of my favorite things about the 172x are its clean lines and compact housing. But looking around it seems like the power brick has been all but abandoned in favor of reducing "clutter." I found another beautiful work in the Samsung 971P, unfortunately it has a S-PVA panel.
Is there some logical reason for this or are there a bounty of power-brick wielding, svelte displays I just missed. (Or am I just a plain oddball in my taste?)

As for the issue that convince me to register: I found myself liking the Planar PX2611W very much - until I saw its price. I did see PX2411W and also saw there is a 24" version of the LM260WU1, the LM240WU1. Moreover, somewhere along the line I saw a page that stated the LM240WU1 was used in the PX2411W. I moved on, though, an now I can't manage to find the page again. I did notice an old post from xtnight mentioning that AFAHK only the NEC LCD2490WUxi uses that panel. Not the most encouraging ting to read, though I did find the Korean BTC Zeus 7000 240MF which, http://lcd24.asp2.cz/Monitor/B...000-240MF/Default.aspx, says uses the panel as well. I didn't find any reviews for the Zeus, though.

While I am not wedded to the LM240WU1, I was hoping that the response time gain that the PX2611W has over the NEC LCD2690WUXi would also manifest itself in the 24" model. In addition to not knowing the panel in the PX2411W, I haven't been able to find any detailed reviews of it either. (Though I did see some mention that the 24WMGX2 should use the LM240WU1 and will only attain 72% NSTC vs. the 92% of the LM260WU1 panel - not sure about the credibility of this though.) I guess to sum in all up:

What is known about the PX2411W and how does it stack up, especially in regards to the 20WMGX2?

 

[Scalarscience]

Although I don't read the forums here enough I do recommend it to a lot of people when I don' t have time to help them with their issues myself, mostly based on having read the site for years. This thread makes me feel good about that! Apologies for the lengthy post but I've been working up to this purchase for ages and as I'm running this 21" at a resolution that's slightly too high for it to avoid feeling cramped on large layouts (it's the resolution I've used for 8 years on last 2 crt's) I am beginning to notice the effects of the eyestrain on my vision. I want to make sure that I get something I can happily live with for a few years until the LED backlights are out in enough volume and have gone through enough revisions to be worthwhile cost/performance wise.


I need to get a new monitor badly and I think 24" is ideal for my needs. My Hitachi 22" crt failed about 7 months ago and I've been limping along on a ViewSonic G225F. While it isn't half bad I feel like I've been waiting years for a decent LCD or three. I've actually got LCD's for every other machine in here, but my primary machine sees most of its use as a Graphics workstation. But I'll enumerate my needs below to make it easier (descending from most important).

1. Print & Web graphics (I do both and most of my money is derived from here).
2. 3d & Video (which includes playback but more specifically production)
3. Audio Production (not much of my income but I do it quite a bit)
4, Gaming

For 1, I use Adobe applications for Print (CMYK and spot color) & sRGB based work. I also use a variety of other applications but things tend to be 'wrapped up' and sent to the printer in Adobe applications as the end stop. For Web work I use a variety of open source tools as well as Photoshop (Fireworks never caught me and I prefer Notepad++ with a few browsers to Dreamweaver).

For 2, I currently use a slightly older version of Softimage XSI, a bit of Blender and a variety of open source tools along with After Effects and a handful of compositors for generating and processing 3d and video content. Final Cut Pro sits on another machine here and isn't a consideration.

For 3, I think just being a 24" LCD that I can bear to look at will be sufficient (audio production). Moving from a CRT to a widescreen LCD will give me a lot more horizontal workspace, which will benefit me in all areas above as well.

And 4, this seems to be the real comprimise here. If I wanted to abandon gaming I could probably go upmarket quite a bit and forget about timing issues in video games. However I have a permanent install of UT2k4 still which gets daily CTF play, and I intend to check out this fall's offerings. I play about 1 other game a month on average, and skip strategy/RPG/MUD style stuff as I dont have the time (FPS games can give me a good gaming experience in a spare hour whereas others always seem to encroach on my schedule). So I am an avid enough gamer that I do care about the overall feel of my experience, but I'm not competitive enough anymore to forgo


I actually started considering the upgrade the instant my Hitachi died, but read about the issues with the various 24" LCD's at the time and decided to hold off to see how a few models were that were upcoming. The only one that hasn't come out now is the Samsung 245t, although I do see now that the 244t stocks are out in most places. The 275t has been out for some time and is somewhat tempting, but it seems it might be a bit large, especially since it has the same effective resolution (and perhaps slightly worse timings?) I guess I could put it behind my desk, but at that point I'd be tempted to just get a 30", which in reality is just too large and would require an SLI configuration to do decent gaming over the next year or so. I can't justify that as a business expense (although I am strongly considering forgetting a quadro this time and getting an 8800GTX).

From reading through this thread it seems the most fitting monitor would be the BenQ FP241W. I see the BenQ FP241Wz on egghead right now, and the price isn't too awful. Is there any other model that might better fit my uses, or does anyone have any info on when the 245t's will be around for comparison?

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: konakona
actually I am going with soyo... evidence is mounting that it is indeed a S-PVA. Does glossy panel really make that much difference?

Please read the OP but this is subjective. Some people hate glossy screens but I love them, provided that you use them in a place of few reflections.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: spacecolonyone
I know it has been said (typed) already but This thread is superb.

Anyway, I am probably in the market to replace my old Samsung 172x and have been doing a bit of digging. This of course has led to a few questions/observations.

First off, I have begun to wonder if I unique in hating LCDs with integrated power supplies? By my thinking LCD monitors are meant to be svelte, beautiful creations and building in power circuitry pretty much precludes that. One of my favorite things about the 172x are its clean lines and compact housing. But looking around it seems like the power brick has been all but abandoned in favor of reducing "clutter." I found another beautiful work in the Samsung 971P, unfortunately it has a S-PVA panel.
Is there some logical reason for this or are there a bounty of power-brick wielding, svelte displays I just missed. (Or am I just a plain oddball in my taste?)

The welding of the power brick to the main housing is primarily due to the clutter caused by the contrary solution. Most people don't like things dangling and hanging from the devices. As it stands I'm not sure how the LCD feels more "svelte" with the power brick off because you're always going to need that extra "hanging thing" to use it.

LG's Flatron series and Samsung's new LCDs (e.g. 2232GW) may be the most stylish of the desktop market.

As for the issue that convince me to register: I found myself liking the Planar PX2611W very much - until I saw its price. I did see PX2411W and also saw there is a 24" version of the LM260WU1, the LM240WU1. Moreover, somewhere along the line I saw a page that stated the LM240WU1 was used in the PX2411W. I moved on, though, an now I can't manage to find the page again. I did notice an old post from xtnight mentioning that AFAHK only the NEC LCD2490WUxi uses that panel. Not the most encouraging ting to read, though I did find the Korean BTC Zeus 7000 240MF which, http://lcd24.asp2.cz/Monitor/B...000-240MF/Default.aspx, says uses the panel as well. I didn't find any reviews for the Zeus, though.

The PX2411W has been speculated to contain an S-PVA panel, but this has not been confirmed in any way. Judging by its price, this is not a bad guess. It's going for only $600, whereas an S-IPS panel would probably go for over $800.

While I am not wedded to the LM240WU1, I was hoping that the response time gain that the PX2611W has over the NEC LCD2690WUXi would also manifest itself in the 24" model. In addition to not knowing the panel in the PX2411W, I haven't been able to find any detailed reviews of it either. (Though I did see some mention that the 24WMGX2 should use the LM240WU1 and will only attain 72% NSTC vs. the 92% of the LM260WU1 panel - not sure about the credibility of this though.) I guess to sum in all up:

I've heard the 24WMGX3(2?) would use an S-PVA.

What is known about the PX2411W and how does it stack up, especially in regards to the 20WMGX2?

Right now, all that is known about the PX2411W is that it costs around $600. Without knowing the panel type that's hard to predict. I'm guessing however that the 20WMGX2 will still be better in terms of image quality overall.

 

[erikt]

Hi,
I just purchased a 20WMGX2 and I'm experiencing a strange DVI problem I'm hoping someone can help me with. I had it hooked up with the VGA cable first and everything looked good. Yesterday I switched to a dual-link DVI-D cable and now the text looks a little off. It's hard to describe, but it's like parts of each character are a little thicker than they should be. Graphics seem to look fine.

I'm using the native resolution and I set up the monitor using xtnight's profile settings (the 1st one). Any thoughts on where to look? I'll probably switch back to VGA if I can't resolve this.

Thanks,
erikt

 

[BernardP]

Originally posted by: erikt
Hi,
I just purchased a 20WMGX2 and I'm experiencing a strange DVI problem I'm hoping someone can help me with. I had it hooked up with the VGA cable first and everything looked good. Yesterday I switched to a dual-link DVI-D cable and now the text looks a little off. It's hard to describe, but it's like parts of each character are a little thicker than they should be. Graphics seem to look fine.

Have you checked that ClearType is not enabled? I know that ClearType should also affect the VGA output, but what you describe sounds like ClearType being enabled.

 

[marlinman]

After reading the review of the HP F2105 here, I'm pretty keen on this monitor. The review claims the screen uses an S-PVA panel. But trexpesto's post here suggests I might end up with an IPS panel (which I'm not keen on as I understand the *VA panels are superior for movies, my main criterion). Appendix A of xtknight's 1st post says "HP also has switched to AMVA in its HP LP2065 model in some cases... HP did keep a label on their box also indicating the panel". Is it feasible to ask the retailer to inspect the F2105's box for me, and if so, what should I ask them to look for?

 

[marlinman]

argh

 

[marlinman]

oops

 

[erikt]

Originally posted by: BernardP

Originally posted by: erikt
Hi,
I just purchased a 20WMGX2 and I'm experiencing a strange DVI problem I'm hoping someone can help me with. I had it hooked up with the VGA cable first and everything looked good. Yesterday I switched to a dual-link DVI-D cable and now the text looks a little off. It's hard to describe, but it's like parts of each character are a little thicker than they should be. Graphics seem to look fine.

Have you checked that ClearType is not enabled? I know that ClearType should also affect the VGA output, but what you describe sounds like ClearType being enabled.

I checked and ClearType was not enabled. I enabled it and it helped a little, but it's still not as clear as VGA. Weird...

erikt

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: erikt
Hi,
I just purchased a 20WMGX2 and I'm experiencing a strange DVI problem I'm hoping someone can help me with. I had it hooked up with the VGA cable first and everything looked good. Yesterday I switched to a dual-link DVI-D cable and now the text looks a little off. It's hard to describe, but it's like parts of each character are a little thicker than they should be. Graphics seem to look fine.

I'm using the native resolution and I set up the monitor using xtnight's profile settings (the 1st one). Any thoughts on where to look? I'll probably switch back to VGA if I can't resolve this.

Thanks,
erikt

First, are you sure you are actually on the DVI input (the input option says so (PC1), or it is the only one plugged in)?

Secondly you can try adjusting the sharpness control in the OSM (on-screen menu).

Other than ClearType I'm not sure what else it could be other than some type of software issue. It's possible you have a defective video card, or monitor.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: marlinman
After reading the review of the HP F2105 here, I'm pretty keen on this monitor. The review claims the screen uses an S-PVA panel. But trexpesto's post here suggests I might end up with an IPS panel (which I'm not keen on as I understand the *VA panels are superior for movies, my main criterion). Appendix A of xtknight's 1st post says "HP also has switched to AMVA in its HP LP2065 model in some cases... HP did keep a label on their box also indicating the panel". Is it feasible to ask the retailer to inspect the F2105's box for me, and if so, what should I ask them to look for?

The f2105 includes only an S-PVA panel AFAIK, but getting an S-IPS is hardly something to worry about. Most people would even prefer S-IPS, although yes, twinkling occurs less with S-PVA (but twinkling is actually part of the movie you're playing, too, it doesn't just occur for no reason).

You shouldn't have to worry about the f2105 because I've seen nowhere that indicates it uses an S-IPS panel. A "Samsung 21" ips" is mentioned but this does not exist either. Samsung had IPS technology under the name ACE (advanced coplanar electrode) but never actually implemented it in their TFT panels.

 

[erikt]

Originally posted by: xtknight

Originally posted by: erikt
Hi,
I just purchased a 20WMGX2 and I'm experiencing a strange DVI problem I'm hoping someone can help me with. I had it hooked up with the VGA cable first and everything looked good. Yesterday I switched to a dual-link DVI-D cable and now the text looks a little off. It's hard to describe, but it's like parts of each character are a little thicker than they should be. Graphics seem to look fine.

I'm using the native resolution and I set up the monitor using xtnight's profile settings (the 1st one). Any thoughts on where to look? I'll probably switch back to VGA if I can't resolve this.

Thanks,
erikt

First, are you sure you are actually on the DVI input (the input option says so (PC1), or it is the only one plugged in)?

Secondly you can try adjusting the sharpness control in the OSM (on-screen menu).

Other than ClearType I'm not sure what else it could be other than some type of software issue. It's possible you have a defective video card, or monitor.

Yes, it's the only one plugged in, and no, sharpness is set to zero in the OSM.

I'm not sure how I'll prove it's the monitor, I'll see if anyone at work has a similar monitor. I"ll also switch video card outputs and see if that makes a difference.
Thanks for the suggestions!
erikt

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: erikt

Originally posted by: xtknight

Originally posted by: erikt
Hi,
I just purchased a 20WMGX2 and I'm experiencing a strange DVI problem I'm hoping someone can help me with. I had it hooked up with the VGA cable first and everything looked good. Yesterday I switched to a dual-link DVI-D cable and now the text looks a little off. It's hard to describe, but it's like parts of each character are a little thicker than they should be. Graphics seem to look fine.

I'm using the native resolution and I set up the monitor using xtnight's profile settings (the 1st one). Any thoughts on where to look? I'll probably switch back to VGA if I can't resolve this.

Thanks,
erikt

First, are you sure you are actually on the DVI input (the input option says so (PC1), or it is the only one plugged in)?

Secondly you can try adjusting the sharpness control in the OSM (on-screen menu).

Other than ClearType I'm not sure what else it could be other than some type of software issue. It's possible you have a defective video card, or monitor.

Yes, it's the only one plugged in, and no, sharpness is set to zero in the OSM.

I'm not sure how I'll prove it's the monitor, I'll see if anyone at work has a similar monitor. I"ll also switch video card outputs and see if that makes a difference.
Thanks for the suggestions!
erikt

Well a sharpness of 0 is going to be blurry. Try something like 8.3 or 16.6.

 

[marlinman]

Originally posted by: xtknight

Originally posted by: marlinman
After reading the review of the HP F2105 here, I'm pretty keen on this monitor. The review claims the screen uses an S-PVA panel. But trexpesto's post here suggests I might end up with an IPS panel (which I'm not keen on as I understand the *VA panels are superior for movies, my main criterion). Appendix A of xtknight's 1st post says "HP also has switched to AMVA in its HP LP2065 model in some cases... HP did keep a label on their box also indicating the panel". Is it feasible to ask the retailer to inspect the F2105's box for me, and if so, what should I ask them to look for?

The f2105 includes only an S-PVA panel AFAIK, but getting an S-IPS is hardly something to worry about. Most people would even prefer S-IPS, although yes, twinkling occurs less with S-PVA (but twinkling is actually part of the movie you're playing, too, it doesn't just occur for no reason).

You shouldn't have to worry about the f2105 because I've seen nowhere that indicates it uses an S-IPS panel. A "Samsung 21" ips" is mentioned but this does not exist either. Samsung had IPS technology under the name ACE (advanced coplanar electrode) but never actually implemented it in their TFT panels.

Well that's good to know! (And apols for the two dud posts above - the creation of p49 of this thread by my 1st post caught me out.)

While we're on the topic... are PVA and MVA equally well suited movie-wise? Or is PVA preferable?

Can you elaborate on your "twinkling is actually part of the movie" comment? Are HD movies less 'twinkly' than SD? When I watch a DVD on a CRT screen is the twinkling present in the signal from the player but not apparent on screen thx to some aspect of CRT technology?

 

[Scalarscience]

Anyone spare a minute to read my post above?

 

[osage]

Originally posted by: konakona
I am quite skeptical, but if this person is right then...
http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2085928&enterthread=y
he claims the $299 soyo (24'') is S-PVA. Again, I find it very hard to believe but oh well

ripped this from another site:

Date Posted: Aug/23/2007 9:00 AM
Rating: 0

Panel identified:

Originally posted by: Phrozen @ SD

Just opened and put back together in about 5 mins

Turns out its a AU Optronics P-MVA (M240UW01 V0) Panel.

BENQ owns AU Optronics, which is currently the second largest panel manufacturer behind Samsung (edging LG, Philips).

Acer AL2423W also has this same panel...

Also at Anandtech.com


Originally posted by: Sikish
Got one. It's S-PVA panel, same thing used in Dell 2407 and my Acer AL2423W. Great deal guys

I was skeptical but it appeared to be confirmed that the panel is not a TN 6 bit but a true 8 bit panel S-PVA.


I got one of these on thursday, it is HUGE, colors are excellent, and it is clear and bright. 24" for less that $300. OTD, no rebates seems excellent to me.
granted I don't know $hit about LCDs as this is my first one, but it sure looks good to me.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: marlinman
Well that's good to know! (And apols for the two dud posts above - the creation of p49 of this thread by my 1st post caught me out.)

No problem.

While we're on the topic... are PVA and MVA equally well suited movie-wise? Or is PVA preferable?

Yes, I would say that these two technologies are equal when it comes to movies.

Can you elaborate on your "twinkling is actually part of the movie" comment? Are HD movies less 'twinkly' than SD? When I watch a DVD on a CRT screen is the twinkling present in the signal from the player but not apparent on screen thx to some aspect of CRT technology?

Movies captured with an analog camcorder have noise due to the film (digital ones don't have this issue). The noise is not because of the monitor itself. The noise is in the file that you're playing. Some HD material I've seen has plenty of noise (e.g. some BBC HD material) and others are completely devoid of noise. YMMV. I haven't seen any HD sports coverage that has noise or film grain, understandably.

CRTs never have perfect convergence so that makes them a lot more resilient to noise (and their triad pixel pattern also). It's more apparent on brighter aperture grille CRTs since they are more accurate than their shadow mask siblings. LCDs always display a perfect signal over an adequate-bandwidth DVI connection so they are most susceptible to any kind of "interference" in the file you're playing.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: Scalarscience
Although I don't read the forums here enough I do recommend it to a lot of people when I don' t have time to help them with their issues myself, mostly based on having read the site for years. This thread makes me feel good about that! Apologies for the lengthy post but I've been working up to this purchase for ages and as I'm running this 21" at a resolution that's slightly too high for it to avoid feeling cramped on large layouts (it's the resolution I've used for 8 years on last 2 crt's) I am beginning to notice the effects of the eyestrain on my vision. I want to make sure that I get something I can happily live with for a few years until the LED backlights are out in enough volume and have gone through enough revisions to be worthwhile cost/performance wise.


I need to get a new monitor badly and I think 24" is ideal for my needs. My Hitachi 22" crt failed about 7 months ago and I've been limping along on a ViewSonic G225F. While it isn't half bad I feel like I've been waiting years for a decent LCD or three. I've actually got LCD's for every other machine in here, but my primary machine sees most of its use as a Graphics workstation. But I'll enumerate my needs below to make it easier (descending from most important).

Although a 24" gives you a higher resolution than a 21", it gives you the same dot pitch. I'm not sure what you meant by a high resolution making things cramped but if font size is bothering you a 24" won't do you any good unless you run it at a non-native resolution, likely worse for your vision.

1. Print & Web graphics (I do both and most of my money is derived from here).
2. 3d & Video (which includes playback but more specifically production)
3. Audio Production (not much of my income but I do it quite a bit)
4, Gaming

For 1, I use Adobe applications for Print (CMYK and spot color) & sRGB based work. I also use a variety of other applications but things tend to be 'wrapped up' and sent to the printer in Adobe applications as the end stop. For Web work I use a variety of open source tools as well as Photoshop (Fireworks never caught me and I prefer Notepad++ with a few browsers to Dreamweaver).

Wide gamut...

For 2, I currently use a slightly older version of Softimage XSI, a bit of Blender and a variety of open source tools along with After Effects and a handful of compositors for generating and processing 3d and video content. Final Cut Pro sits on another machine here and isn't a consideration.

Good image quality...

For 3, I think just being a 24" LCD that I can bear to look at will be sufficient (audio production). Moving from a CRT to a widescreen LCD will give me a lot more horizontal workspace, which will benefit me in all areas above as well.

Decent response time for the waveform displays?

And 4, this seems to be the real comprimise here. If I wanted to abandon gaming I could probably go upmarket quite a bit and forget about timing issues in video games. However I have a permanent install of UT2k4 still which gets daily CTF play, and I intend to check out this fall's offerings. I play about 1 other game a month on average, and skip strategy/RPG/MUD style stuff as I dont have the time (FPS games can give me a good gaming experience in a spare hour whereas others always seem to encroach on my schedule). So I am an avid enough gamer that I do care about the overall feel of my experience, but I'm not competitive enough anymore to forgo

And decent response time here also. The Dell 2707WFP, Planar PX2611W, and Samsung 275T suit you well. I would recommend the 275T myself since it has a lot of great reviews.

I actually started considering the upgrade the instant my Hitachi died, but read about the issues with the various 24" LCD's at the time and decided to hold off to see how a few models were that were upcoming. The only one that hasn't come out now is the Samsung 245t, although I do see now that the 244t stocks are out in most places. The 275t has been out for some time and is somewhat tempting, but it seems it might be a bit large, especially since it has the same effective resolution (and perhaps slightly worse timings?) I guess I could put it behind my desk, but at that point I'd be tempted to just get a 30", which in reality is just too large and would require an SLI configuration to do decent gaming over the next year or so. I can't justify that as a business expense (although I am strongly considering forgetting a quadro this time and getting an 8800GTX).

From reading through this thread it seems the most fitting monitor would be the BenQ FP241W. I see the BenQ FP241Wz on egghead right now, and the price isn't too awful. Is there any other model that might better fit my uses, or does anyone have any info on when the 245t's will be around for comparison?

If you're complaining that 21" is strainful on your eyes then you won't be complaining about the comfort you derive from using a nice 27" S-PVA display. There's no reason to get a 30" instead, it has a considerably smaller dot pitch than the 21" you already have and a resolution you can hardly game at (and not to mention higher price). The 27" seems perfect to me.

 

[KS12]

hi, new here.

i just got a dell 2007wfp and i was hopinh to get a s-ips monitor (i heard it's the best one) but it looks like i lost in dell's little lottery thing. is there really a big difference between the dell s-ips and s-pva? (note that i don't have any experience with a s-ips or a s-pva so i don't know if i can tell a difference) i mainly use the monitor for gaming and school work for college, no photo editing but i watch movies on it occasionally. overall though, i'm pretty happy with the monitor compared to my old 17" benq monitor. theres no dead pixel, i don't think theres any back light bleeding issues and etc. so is really worth it to send it back to dell and hope that they send a s-ips monitor instead?

 

[cwy]

I use Samsung 245bw (native 1920x1200) LCD widescreen monitor, and it doesn't supports 1600x1200. So there are some games I can't play in that res, especially older ones that have no widescreen support. Is there any workaround that will let me play them at 1600x1200?

My video card is Geforce 8800gtx. The nvidia control panel lets me create custom resolutions. I tried to create 1600x1200 but can't do it. Can someone help me as to what to enter for timing parameters and all that crap?

Note that the nvidia driver is able scale the image to a fixed-aspect ratio, so the 4:3 image wouldn't be distorted. All I need is to create a 1600x1200 res in the control panel so my games would hopefully recognize it.

I need this monitor for its HDCP support in viewing HD DVD and Blu-ray discs. This was the cheapest monitor I could find that has that. I knew I would have to forgo 1600x1200. Is there a solution at all?