Originally posted by: gravety
Well got my BenQ FP241WZ today - it's a seriously nice monitor
One question I have is there seems to be a light border about 6mm wide on the edges and a bit thinner on the top / bottom - is this usual?
Originally posted by: Aversion
Originally posted by: gravety
Well got my BenQ FP241WZ today - it's a seriously nice monitor
One question I have is there seems to be a light border about 6mm wide on the edges and a bit thinner on the top / bottom - is this usual?
I have the same monitor and haven't noticed anything like that. Looking now I don't see it, the screen 'space' goes right to the edges but not beyond.
Have you tried using the monitor menu controls to stretch the screen slightly and see if the border goes away?
Hi xtknight (or any other expert),
1st of all, great (looooong ) thread.
I have been looking to buy new LCD for a couple months now, but i haven't really found the one to pull the trigger on. Usage wise, I would say Multimedia is probably what describe me the best. Budget wise around 300. I don't have access to a calibration device.
I was 1st looking at the Samsung 225bw / 226bw, but after the whole panel lottery I kind of want to steer clear. Same with the Dell 2007wfp and HP LP2065 (a lil over my budget too). After stumbling upon this thread and slacking off the whole day at work reading it, I was sure that the Acer al2051w is the one -- until i find out that you can't get it anywhere anymore (discontinued).
So my question is what is the next in line? the LG L20xtw series even though it is a TN panel? If so, is the 206twy better than the 204tw? A while back (june, july?) you mentioned until proven otherwise, l204tw is still the one to get. Have your opinion changed? If not, what other do you recommend? Should I just plunge another $100 and get the NEC that everyone raves about? Or is there a sure thing coming out soon (Acer al2052w)? I am not really in a hurry as this is going to be my 3rd monitor for my 3 monitor setup, but I kind of want to get it done with.
Thanks in advance.
- XYZ
P.S. I tried to look for it in the placed mentioned in this tread but I did not find a calibrated profile for a samsung 204bw. Does anyone know where off the top of their heads where I might be able to find one?
Ahh perhaps I should clarify - the image goes right to the edge but it is slightly lighter!!
Originally posted by: xyz
Ahh perhaps I should clarify - the image goes right to the edge but it is slightly lighter!!
I think this is considered normal or any LCD monitor (backlight bleeding), just that some are worse than others.
You can go to BestBuy or somewhere and look at the the LCDs to see that almost all of them would have some form of this.
- XYZ
Originally posted by: xyz
Hi xtknight (or any other expert),
1st of all, great (looooong ) thread.
I have been looking to buy new LCD for a couple months now, but i haven't really found the one to pull the trigger on. Usage wise, I would say Multimedia is probably what describe me the best. Budget wise around 300. I don't have access to a calibration device.
I was 1st looking at the Samsung 225bw / 226bw, but after the whole panel lottery I kind of want to steer clear. Same with the Dell 2007wfp and HP LP2065 (a lil over my budget too). After stumbling upon this thread and slacking off the whole day at work reading it, I was sure that the Acer al2051w is the one -- until i find out that you can't get it anywhere anymore (discontinued).
So my question is what is the next in line? the LG L20xtw series even though it is a TN panel? If so, is the 206twy better than the 204tw? A while back (june, july?) you mentioned until proven otherwise, l204tw is still the one to get. Have your opinion changed? If not, what other do you recommend? Should I just plunge another $100 and get the NEC that everyone raves about? Or is there a sure thing coming out soon (Acer al2052w)? I am not really in a hurry as this is going to be my 3rd monitor for my 3 monitor setup, but I kind of want to get it done with.
Thanks in advance.
- XYZ
P.S. I tried to look for it in the placed mentioned in this tread but I did not find a calibrated profile for a samsung 204bw. Does anyone know where off the top of their heads where I might be able to find one?
Originally posted by: ivanchin99
First of all, great guide Xtknight!
I wanted to ask a question after going through the whole thread.. I read somewhere possibly from you that Samsung 226BW S Panel is better than LG 226WTQ?
IS my list below holds any truth?
From Best to Worst:
Samsung 226 BW S Panel
LG L226WTQ
Samsung 226 BW A Panel
Samsung 226 BW C Panel
Originally posted by: imaheadcase
Yah I don't notice any ghosting still on my 2407WFP-HC since i got it. I installed Quake Wars beta played about 6 hours of it and did not notice any, if I don't notice it in RTS/FPS/MMORPG thats always good
It does make me wonder if some of this ghosting people are seeing are other factors on there computers. Video card drivers, mouse drivers from logitech are known culprits for mouse trails and pictures to appear ghosting.
Any clue as to why I got my monitor from Singapore while everyone else is getting them from China or Mexico in the US?
Originally posted by: gravety
Well got my BenQ FP241WZ today - it's a seriously nice monitor
One question I have is there seems to be a light border about 6mm wide on the edges and a bit thinner on the top / bottom - is this usual?
Originally posted by: SuperUnknown42o
I'm looking for a good 20" 4:3 monitor. I'll be using it for general web browsing, gaming, and maybe the occasional movie. I was thinking about getting the Dell 2007fp. I'm coming from a good CRT so color and response are pretty important. Any recommendations?
Originally posted by: eeric
Hi, this is a pretty off topic, but does anyone know the maximum resolution (or bandwidth) supported by a VGA connection, or where I could find out? When I search google I keep getting junk about the VGA resolution spec and not the connector spec. Whoever answers will be my hero forever...... really appreciated. Thx in advance.
Originally posted by: xtknight
The 2007FP may be the best choice for you, but it's hard to know without a budget range.
Originally posted by: SuperUnknown42o
Originally posted by: xtknight
The 2007FP may be the best choice for you, but it's hard to know without a budget range.
My budget range is right around $500, but I might be willing to go a bit higher for a superior monitor.
Originally posted by: DarkNovaNick
I'm looking for a new LCD to do photo editing work and am having a hard time finding something that sounds good in my price range. I'd like at least a 19" and have probably around $280 to spend. In the recommended LCDs in the first post the Samsung 971P is listed (for $300) which I could probably stretch my budget to buy if I was convinced it would be an amazing display, but I'm somewhat concerned about the reviews and that it might be really annoying for simple motion things like dragging windows around.
I've also been looking seriously at the Samsung 226BW which fits my budget and is generally reviewed well. I am aware of the panel lottery but from what I've read it sounds like even the non S panels have been doing OK after they have been calibrated (I have a Spider2 calibrator). My main concern is that it has a TN panel which has a poor viewing angle and more extreme color shifts at angles. I will always aim to use the display head-on, but I'm concerned that I may accidentally edit a picture while viewing at a slight angle (slouching on chair or something) and then the colors will be off. Am I overthinking this? I just want a display that has great color, after calibration -- that's my main concern. 22" is nice but even a 19" would be great. Can anyone recommend a panel (or a few) that I should be looking at? Thanks.
Originally posted by: DarkNovaNick
Does anyone have knowledge about the quality of the Dell 1901FP? I need a screen for photo editing work and have access to this one. It's several years old but well reviewed in it's day so I'm wondering how well it would compare to buying a new display (my budget would be < $300). I'm not sure what kind of panel the 1901FP has but I believe that it's not TN. Anyone know? Thanks.
Originally posted by: Septimus
How important is an HDMI input versus a DVI/HDCP input?
I'm looking at 27-28" widescreens and I like the Samsung 275T a lot. I don't have any devices right now with HDMI outputs and I'm not a huge videophile such that I'd care if all I could use on one such device is a component output.
Is there any pressing reason to wait for a decent non-TN display with an HDMI input?
Originally posted by: Septimus
How important is an HDMI input versus a DVI/HDCP input?
I'm looking at 27-28" widescreens and I like the Samsung 275T a lot. I don't have any devices right now with HDMI outputs and I'm not a huge videophile such that I'd care if all I could use on one such device is a component output.
Is there any pressing reason to wait for a decent non-TN display with an HDMI input?
Originally posted by: DarkNovaNick
xtknight -- Thanks for the great responses. It is really cool that you are so helpful with these questions. I will be looking at the 971P, VP930b, and LP2065 over the next day or two. We'll see what the budget allows for. About the 1901FP -- I have it at the house here but it is currently not being used for photo editing work -- it's mainly used for programming and web surfing.
My options are either to keep the 1901FP doing what it's doing and buy a new display for the photo editing computer, or to switch the 1901FP over to the photo editing computer and buy a new display for the programming/web surfing computer -- for that display I wouldn't care as much about the color accuracy and the viewing angles so I could probably buy a cheaper (but still decent) display. Neither computer does any gaming to speak of. If the 1901FP is practically as good as some of the displays you listed then I probably would just use that but if it would be quite a bit better to buy a new display then I would have to think hard about doing that. Thanks.
Originally posted by: one1speed
xnight, others. based on my discussion here, i picked up the NEC 20WMGX2 over the apple 20". seems pretty nice and very clear, but i am a bit concerned with what i received. it doesn't seem to take much head movement to changed the tones on screen. in other words, i'm a bit concerned with the viewing angle.
therefore, i checked the specs that came with the monitor and it claims 89 degrees h and v. while the specs online claim 178 degrees h and v. still has 16.7 million colors. other specs seem inline.
it's not horrible, but not exactly what i thought it was. being that i am a graphic designer and photographer, ultimate resolution, color, etc. is important to me. and my main concern is, did i get what i paid for?
please advise. any thoughts are greatly appreciated. thanks!!
Originally posted by: alins
The specs of 20WMGX2 indeed mention 89 degrees left/right and up/down, but this angle is measured from the monitor's center point, so the total viewing angle is 89 degree left/up + 89 degree right/down = 178 degrees all around. So there is no inconsistency.