Originally posted by: Mallomar
Would that BenQ be a contender (even if not ideal) for print-target media processing? I'm still holding out for the 26" NEC that we discussed last week, but in the meantime I thought I'd get a mid-range 24" monitor. Then, when I get the 26" NEC, the 24" monitor will get passed on to my husband.
I'd like to keep the cost to around $500-600 -- even though it'll be a "temporary" monitor for me, and my husband probably won't be able to tell the difference, I don't want to buy a real cheap one. And of course I don't want to spend TOO much, since I'll be spending over a thou on the NEC.
So I was considering the 24" Dell Ultrasharp, which I had planned to get from Costco when they had it for $609, but now they list it (maybe it's an updated model) for $649. How does the BenQ stack up against the Dell?
Wow, yes, that is a lot of moolah.
But I suppose yes if that's the route you want to take, the 24" BenQ certainly isn't a bad idea. It's not wide gamut though so it really has no advantages specific to print-media processing. The 2407WFP-HC may actually be a better choice. Not only is it cheaper ([covering my butt:] at least in some countries) but it has a wider gamut.
BTW, is there a reason why Eizos are not listed? Is it because they are so expensive? (I hadn't really considered them because of the cost, but was curious to know hw they stack up against the NECs.)
The Eizos? Well, they just aren't as good as the NEC monitors, they're more expensive, and Eizo has been known for deceptive practices like hooking up competitors' monitor rigs to VGA to try and show the Eizos' superiority (over DVI). I'm not too fond of them.
A lot of the Eizos are using S-PVAs now which are inherently less quality for photo editing than the polarized S-IPS panels that the NEC 90 series use. How they compare to the Dell, well they would probably be better, but all you have to do is look at the price. An Eizo is no temp monitor, it's a huge, long-term investment, and usually a bad one at that. Of course, always be careful of blanket statements but the NEC 90 series are simply a better choice overall. They use only the best panels, have extremely tight calibration, and are priced only at what they are worth.
The Eizo S2411W is $1275 and the NEC LCD2490WUXi is $1150, and it goes without saying that you are getting less performance out of the Eizo since it uses a VA panel, which has more viewing angle issues. The S2411W isn't wide gamut either making it even less suitable.
Read Tamlin's posts here:
http://www.hardforum.com/showt...d.php?t=1180814&page=4
The lower black level isn't that important. My L226WT had a lower black level but that doesn't mean much. My NEC 20WMGX2 with a higher black level still showed significantly more detail. Go by uniformity, gamma control/deltaE, and viewing angle stability when it comes to revealing detail. I know the NEC leads in uniformity and viewing angle stability, and I am pretty sure it does in deltaE measurements too.
At least for photo editing, once you use an S-IPS you will never go back. Those who can not notice the tone shift of an S-PVA have never used an S-IPS panel.
Originally posted by: boglwe
the Sharp 32inchers, 1080p's should be added to the list. I own one, I love it, its a great gaming monitor. I do Indesign and photoshop as well with it.
How is the overscan on them? I'd love to add some more monitors. If you don't know I'll see what I can find in regards to overscan.
Originally posted by: Kalessian
Just to update on my flickering issue... the monitor goes *crazy* with upward-creeping horizontal lines when I have ZSNES open in a window. Weird...
I don't know what to tell you.
Originally posted by: FireChicken
Any word on any up and coming LCD panels being released. I know that samsung just release a few new models. Any other manufactures releasing new LCD's for the holidays? Looks like viewsonic is releasing a new 22"
vx2240w, 4000:1 dynamic, 1000:1 typical contrast 2ms gtg; 5ms Black to white Coming in Nov. Anybody else know any more?
Newer 22" models are asked about a lot in here (which certainly isn't a bad thing). I can say with much confidence that within the next two months, no 22" models will sport anything revolutionary over what's already out there (2280HD, 226BW, 226CW, L226WT, ...). It is basically physically impossible at this point for the ViewSonic to have a contrast ratio higher than the Samsung since:
a) ViewSonic rarely uses Samsung panels.
b) There is no 22" panel out there that reaches over what the Samsung already does.
The Samsung 226BW (though, S panel) will remain the creme de la creme probably until the end of this year, or even later. Wide gamut panels may attempt to displace it but I don't think their response time will be quite as fast. The Samsung's 10 ms is so far unrivaled.
Unless AUO just released another 22" panel, its response time will simply be average for these days (e.g. 226BW A panel). The 226BW "A" is good though, since it comes with a low input lag like the "S" panel (but this may be because of the monitor, not the vendor-supplied panel module itself).
The 4000:1 rating means a new marketing team was hired, not much more than that. (aren't I so optimistic? : ) )
ClearMotiv just means that they use newer TN panels with properties that make them have a fast response (low cell gap, low viscosity, etc). Every manufacturer does this nowadays. It also means you have a 6-bit panel because it is less precise when it is faster.
Amplified Impulse means they use an Overdrive chip, aka. response time compensation.
The dynamic contrast ratio is the range from the darkest black to the brightest white that the LCD can display (this is calculated based off different scenes, so it is useless even if it is not already inflated). The static contrast ratio, 1000:1, means that it can display white 1000 times brighter than black in the same scene. Optimistically speaking it will reach 900:1 in reality.