[Retired] The LCD Thread

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: Montius
I haven't checked this thread in a while, and last time I did there was pretty high praise for the FP241W. I've still got my 2407WFP-HC sitting here, with the return slip beside it. So what's come up on the BenQ?

Well the BenQ has (at least some units have) blackout problems. It blacks out once in a while during usage with some graphics card configurations, and BenQ so far has not dealt with it AFAIK. Doesn't sound too good to me.

Originally posted by: duderino
Amazing thread guys! I stumbled on this while researching the Gateway FHD2400 and wanted to see what you guys thought, now that there IS a review on it out there. Don't know how reputable the ExtremeTech reviews are, but they just did one on this on this monitor here: http://www.extremetech.com/art.../0,1558,2213483,00.asp

So I was all geared up to buy this monitor last weekend until i asked the last salesman at CompUSA his opinion on it. He scoffed and told me to get an LG or Samsung instead. When i asked why he put the monitor on a greyish screen, flipped it to the portrait orientation and you could pretty clearly see uneven brightness from one side of the screen to the other (I guess flipping it sideways like that makes it easier to distinguish?). he also said the backlight wasn't as good as the LG or Samsungs there. Now I've read about the LG's problems in this thread, and I trust that the Samsung is a good alternative (this was the 245BW at CompUSA), but that Gateway just jumps out so nice with that glossy screen. Of the whole row of monitors in the display this one was clearly the most vibrant one of the lot. The contrast was amazing. Maybe it's just a glossy thing.

I'm going to be using the monitor primarily for photo editing, for both print and web, so color accuracy needs to be good. I don't do any gaming. I really don't want to spend more than $600 on a monitor, yet i really want at least 24" in size. I read in the review that this monitor can be tuned pretty well and they seem to really like it. is this uneven brightness something that can be tuned out of a monitor?

Just wanted to bounce my thoughts off you guys, perhaps make it an easier decision for me. thanks for the help!

Uneven brightness can not easily be tuned out of a display with most tools available to people today. Of course, there's nothing preventing you from making a driver to measure the lowest point of luminance on your monitor and tune the rest of the screen with a per-pixel gamma table to achieve the same luminance. Unfortunately, that brightness compensation is only available in some high-end NEC/Eizo models.

The LG (TN) looks fine if you like glossy screens. Otherwise I might try the HP LP2465. It's hard to say though. I haven't seen either in real life. I just think the LP2465 would be more to my liking because of wider viewing angles and better color.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: anth0ny
I just picked up the 226BW this weekend from Fry's for $299 - $30 rebate and free Canon printer. I got the 'A' Panel with a build date of Sept. 2007. I tweaked the colors right away to get rid of the blue tint using the Magic Tune software.

My previous monitor was a Dell 19" 1907 which had a Samsung panel which I picked up for $230 something a while back. It is a great monitor and I might have to return this new one and go back to using that. I have some really annoying ghosting going on while playing Battlefield 2. I haven't noticed it in other games but it is easily seen when moving the mouse in the game. I managed to take a picture with my Canon Rebel XTI and here's what I am seeing 'Screenshot of Ghosting'

You can see that the ghosting is actually red tinted. I also see green tinting a lot as well. Has anyone else seen the same type of ghosting? I could probably live with the ghosting if it wasn't these funky colors.

This is ghosting caused by overdrive. Unfortunately, there's not much you can do about it but adjust brightness/contrast/RGB settings to try and avoid the portion of the color spectrum that has the ghosting issue. And that means some other colors will have the ghosting problem instead. You can turn off RTA (response time acceleration) on the 226BW, I believe, as a matter of fact. This will turn off overdrive and it might fix your problem but you'll get a little more ghosting. Give it a try though.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: brencat
@ xtknight, I've decided to keep searching for an LCD and noticed you seem to recommend the Samsung 245BW 24" for gaming. Although the price seems attractive ~ $450ish, newegg comments seem to be mixed about this TN panel and comments on the Dell site (they sell it too) are even less encouraging (3.7 out of 5 stars...noticeable yellowing at edges with even modest 30 degree off angle viewing, etc).

Assuming I wanted to go bigger than the 22" 226BW for gaming, is the 245BW the best I can do for reasonable money? (if I go 24", it needs to be able to do 1:1 pixel mapping)

Also, if I were to step up to the $700+ range, should I perhaps consider a good sub-32" HDTV as an alternative ?

HDTV? Hmm, not really. They are usually not that great for desktop use. But the Sharp LC-32GP1U is supposed to be good for desktop use.

I recommend a smaller screen personally. Maybe that's because of my own bad experiences with ghosting on HDTVs.

I think the 245BW is the best gaming LCD for 24". There is also the LP2465 but I believe the 245BW's faster response and lower input lag would please gamers like you.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: Enva
New to forum
i recently got a HP W2207 22" widescreen lcd, this is my first LCD monitor and i just cant get the colours right. I have noticed that when watching videos they tend to be much darker then my old CRT. Does anyone know any good Profiles for the W2207?
Thanks for any information/help

I'm sorry to say I don't know what to do for you. You can try raising gamma but then again this only affects videos in certain cases (when the DirectX/VMR renderer is used). But there are adjustments for overlay video too. The NVIDIA control panel actually combines these into something called video color adjustments (or similar) and maybe ATI does too...

Originally posted by: Montius

Originally posted by: xtknight
Considering that the BenQ FP241W is unsuitable at best for many people (blackout problems), the HP LP2465 has been recommended as a first-rate alternative. The FP241W is staying up there but not without comments.

If BenQ doesn't take any action w/ regards to the FP241W I might remove it altogether which sucks for multiple reasons but that's the way it goes.

For those that have the FP241W already, don't worry about it. It is just as good as the LP2465 when it comes to image quality.

I haven't checked this thread in a while, and last time I did there was pretty high praise for the FP241W. I've still got my 2407WFP-HC sitting here, with the return slip beside it. So what's come up on the BenQ?

Well like I said it has blackout problems. It blacks out during use. Doesn't sound too good to me. And so far, BenQ has done nothing about it at least from what I've seen. Well they certainly haven't fixed it. There's a proposed fix for it online, easy to find (something to do w/ refresh timings, perhaps). I'm not sure if only certain units have the problem or if it's an interaction with a particular set of video cards and the monitor.

Originally posted by: Nnyan
Ok so I've managed to spend the last month (2 weeks each with several days side to side) with the w2207 and the 226BW. Just to recap my issues are that most LCD's tend to make be dizzy. Following the advice here I'm pretty sure most (if not all) of this is the contrast/brightness. When I've tone these settings down the dizzyness doesn't bother me as much.

Hey again.

I have to say that I really like both of these LCD's. To my unprofessional eyes the 226BW "seemed" faster then the w2207 but the w2207 had a richer nicer picture (not that the 226BW was bad, it was very nice it's just that the w2207 was better). My one concern about the w2207 was the rated image delay was higher then the 226BW. Not sure if that's what I noticed when I say the 226BW was "faster" but I quickly got used to it and it didn't seem to affect my scores = ). Bottom line (for myself) that with fast moving games the w2207 made me significantly less "dizzy" then the 226BW. But this may be that I was able to lower the brightness/contrast on the w2207 lower then the 226BW and still maintain a good image.

Um, maybe it's the glossy screen preventing some screen-door effect? I don't know...

Up next is the 2232BW since I can find that at a local store and I was going to also try the NEC 90GX2 but no one seems to have it (newegg does not list it) and only two places are listing it for about $350 so I'm taking that off the list (seems that my eyes like glossy better).

Well don't forget the 2232GW, the glossy (MagicClear) version of the 2232BW. I don't know when that's coming out, though. Actually it seems to be available already:

http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm...m/ccd/productDetail.do

 

[TempletonPeck]

Can anyone tell me anything about LG's: L206WTQ-BF?

Anything you know about it would be great, hard to find any opinions on it. I'd go for the 22", but my desk won't fit it with the current setup I have.

I'm returning my Samsung 206bw because of the artifacts that appear when you turn on RTA. It also has significant backlight bleed along the top and bottom, as well as the sides.

Then add in a few dead pixels, a back cable cover that doesn't fit on right and you can see why I'm turning to a different brand.

Thanks again, any help is appreciated.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: TempletonPeck
Can anyone tell me anything about LG's: L206WTQ-BF?

Anything you know about it would be great, hard to find any opinions on it. I'd go for the 22", but my desk won't fit it with the current setup I have.

I'm returning my Samsung 206bw because of the artifacts that appear when you turn on RTA. It also has significant backlight bleed along the top and bottom, as well as the sides.

Then add in a few dead pixels, a back cable cover that doesn't fit on right and you can see why I'm turning to a different brand.

Thanks again, any help is appreciated.

Well it's hard to know, there hasn't been any reviews of it by X-Bit, THG, ExtremeTech, or BeHardware.

But it's probably the next LCD I would try since I've had good luck with LG 6 series LCDs. There is also HP's L2045w that has good solid reviews.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: pugdaddy
Hi everyone,

(This is my first post, so please bear with me.) I noticed that the HP is being recommended as an alternative to the BenQ FP241W... But I am hoping to find an 8-bit panel 24" that has HDMI inputs so I can plug in an upconverting DVD player, and HP does not have such ports. Searching through Newegg, it looks like my only choices are as follows:

BenQ G2400W
BenQ FP241W
BenQ FP241VW
Samsung 245T

My usage is mainly web and multimedia. But to be honest, I don't even know if my computers are powerful enough to run 24" monitors, because I am using two SFF PCs with on board video only. They can display my dying 21" Iiyama CRT OK, but they don't even have DVI connectors.

I would love to get something on the Multimedia Recommended List; but the 27" & 30" monitors are just too expensive. 22" in fact is more of my price range, and I realize that at 22" it's already larger than a 21" CRT -- but because of the wide aspect ratio it just feels smaller for some reason, that's why I'm looking at the 24".

Can anyone help me decide? Thanks in advance!

Well, I'm about to put the Dell 2407WFP-HC back up (whenever I stop feeling lazy or get some time over the weekend). I firmly believe the Dell's performance will satisfy almost anyone. There's a few reasons I conclude that:

a) My ViewSonic VP930b has the same problem. And it rarely manifests itself. When it does, it's not very annoying.

b) My HDTV (Mitsubishi) has a lot of ghosting, and even then I love it. Occasionally it will be bothersome but by and large it is not a problem. It's not something I worry about. Keep in mind this is probably an older MVA with no overdrive tech so when you consider that, the Dell couldn't be nearly as bad. It sure beats bright pink and blue overdrive artifacts...

c) I've seen the videos of the 2407WFP-HC. It's not that bad. There are problems on every LCD that you must get used to and this is no different.

Now that my stance on that is clear, I believe the 2407WFP-HC is the LCD for you. Don't agonize that it's not on the list, because it will be very soon.

You will want to drive the Dell with DVI sooner or later but VGA will do, I suppose.

 

[TempletonPeck]

Originally posted by: xtknight

Originally posted by: TempletonPeck
Can anyone tell me anything about LG's: L206WTQ-BF?

Anything you know about it would be great, hard to find any opinions on it. I'd go for the 22", but my desk won't fit it with the current setup I have.

I'm returning my Samsung 206bw because of the artifacts that appear when you turn on RTA. It also has significant backlight bleed along the top and bottom, as well as the sides.

Then add in a few dead pixels, a back cable cover that doesn't fit on right and you can see why I'm turning to a different brand.

Thanks again, any help is appreciated.

Well it's hard to know, there hasn't been any reviews of it by X-Bit, THG, ExtremeTech, or BeHardware.

But it's probably the next LCD I would try since I've had good luck with LG 6 series LCDs. There is also HP's L2045w that has good solid reviews.

Thanks, I'll likely give it a try and see what happens. I'm just looking for some reassurance after the disaster with the one I'm returning.

I've been scouring the net for anything about the monitor, but like you said it hasn't been reviewed anywhere.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: TempletonPeck
Thanks, I'll likely give it a try and see what happens. I'm just looking for some reassurance after the disaster with the one I'm returning.

I've been scouring the net for anything about the monitor, but like you said it hasn't been reviewed anywhere.

Unfortunately I can't give you much reassurance there.

X-Bit has only recently began doing uniformity in their reviews so you can look to them for some solace whenever they get around to the LG L206WTQ/WTY.

The WTQ is at least mentioned here, but not much info:

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articl...lcd-guide-f2007_4.html

 

[TempletonPeck]

Originally posted by: xtknight

Originally posted by: TempletonPeck
Thanks, I'll likely give it a try and see what happens. I'm just looking for some reassurance after the disaster with the one I'm returning.

I've been scouring the net for anything about the monitor, but like you said it hasn't been reviewed anywhere.

Unfortunately I can't give you much reassurance there.

X-Bit has only recently began doing uniformity in their reviews so you can look to them for some solace whenever they get around to the LG L206WTQ/WTY.

The WTQ is at least mentioned here, but not much info:

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articl...lcd-guide-f2007_4.html

Thanks for the link.

If I had looked at xbitlabs ahead of time last time, I would have noticed they mentioned the Samsung 206bw had some very noticeable artifacts showing up with their RTA technology. I probably would have never picked it up.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: VistaVick
Hi, I have a pc setup with a projector in the other end of the room I use with windows media center, powerdvd, and occasional web browsing and email. My pc monitor is a benq with a 16:10 1680x1050 native resolution.

My complaint is I am tired of switching resolutions back and forth because my projector accepts 720p-1080p signals but not 1680x1050 and since I have the ati catalyst center setup to clone my pc monitor and projector displays. this is really annoying. When I set the benq to 720p or 1080 resolutions, the picture of course looks horrible and it either flashes the message out of range or not a preset mode. Some things like media center automatically change both displays to 720p but others like powerdvd require manually changing the resolution, and doing by hotkeys always causes issues for me. However when I do set the pc monitor to display at 720p or 1080 the image on the projector looks great, otherwise it is either distorted or does not take up the entire projector screen.

Consider using [1920x]1080 and setting the BenQ to virtual desktop mode, wherein you have a virtual space of 1920x1080 on an actual res of 1680x1050. You can pan around to use the whole space, by using your mouse. This is a function of the video card drivers only and I can't tell you exactly how to enable it with ATI. Might need PowerStrip...

ATI Hydravision Desktop Manager (desktop switching) and ATI Catalyst Control Center "List all possible modes" option (desktop scrolling), free for ATI graphic card users

Apparently use the "List all modes" option to show higher resolutions for that BenQ display, then choose 1080 and it should automatically engage?

Since I know 16:9 pc monitors are almost non existent, my question is how would 1980x1080 look on a typical 24 inch or so lcd monitor that have native resolutions of 1980x1200. Do any of them accept this resolution and is the picture acceptable for everyday use. I wasn't looking to upgrade my pc monitor but if I can go bigger and also have 2 displays that can run comfortably at the same resolution, I may. Thanks.

Most 24" (except for TNs and a few isolated models) have scaling options. Give the HP LP2465 a try. It should allow you to enable black bars to get 1920x1080 to 1920x1200. That is probably the best solution for you. And it's certainly acceptable and enjoyable for everyday use.

LP2465 manual, p. 30:

One-to-one?disables video scaling, displays an image
that is smaller in size than the monitor?s capability and
centers the image on the screen in the active viewing area

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: TempletonPeck
Thanks for the link.

If I had looked at xbitlabs ahead of time last time, I would have noticed they mentioned the Samsung 206bw had some very noticeable artifacts showing up with their RTA technology. I probably would have never picked it up.

Sorry for your bad experience.

I might consider removing the 206BW and 226BW from the list (second time I've heard of issues with 6 series after just a few posts). I'm not too happy about that but how was regular ghosting with RTA off?

Should a decent alternative come I will definitely replace the 206BW (the replacement of which may very well be the LG 206 or 207).

Originally posted by: FireChicken

Anybody seen any reviews for the Lenovo L220X yet??

That's a negative. Keep posted here: http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?p=1031662445

 

[TempletonPeck]

Originally posted by: xtknight

Originally posted by: TempletonPeck
Thanks for the link.

If I had looked at xbitlabs ahead of time last time, I would have noticed they mentioned the Samsung 206bw had some very noticeable artifacts showing up with their RTA technology. I probably would have never picked it up.

Sorry for your bad experience.

I might consider removing the 206BW and 226BW from the list (second time I've heard of issues with 6 series after just a few posts). I'm not too happy about that but how was regular ghosting with RTA off?

Should a decent alternative come I will definitely replace the 206BW (the replacement of which may very well be the LG 206 or 207).

No problem, not your fault, it's Samsung's, heh.

Without the RTA it was actually pretty good and I was going to keep the monitor at that point.

Then I noticed the backlight bleeding, the dead pixels and that my shutdown error went away when I uninstalled the MagicTune software I was using.

I could have probably lived with the cable panel being poorly made and the RTA issue, since I could turn it off and it was pretty good without it, but more problems kept piling on.

Seriously though, a cable panel isn't a big thing, but whoever made it should have clearly seen there was no way it would fit right and it should have failed any inspection.


I found an "official" review for the L206wtq-bf, but it's in another language.

Review Link

 

[StarTech]

Originally posted by: StarTech

Originally posted by: xtknight

Originally posted by: StarTech

Originally posted by: xtknight

Originally posted by: StarTech
Any thoughts on the Viewsonic VX1940W ? Newegg has it for $240. It is a 1680x1050.

I just moved and my Dell 2005 wide ended packed in storage. I need a temporary solution until I move to a larger place. Use for web browsing and minor office work.
It may be of value to have longer page (1050) than typical 900.

Wow, 1680x1050 19". Never seen that before, actually. But I haven't seen any reviews on this monitor either.

Samsung's 931BW and 940BW are decent low-res 1440x900 19" widescreen solutions. Even a 226BW for $280 AR for 1680x1050.

Consider the HP L2045w for $230 AR: http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16824176073

Not sure what you mean by 1050 vs 900. 1440x1050 (20.1") vs 1440x900 (19"w), or 1680x1050(20.1") vs 1440x900 (19"w)? There are a couple 1440x1050 monitors too actually.

Another 19"w (1440x900): 941BW for $170 AR: http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16824001088

Not all that certain about the 941BW but it looks good. I think the L2045w is the best choice for you for now. Plus once you get your Dell it'll make dual monitor config easy (same size) if you intend on keeping the HP.

The problem is actual size it takes. Due to where I have my desk in the apartment's multifunction living room I do not want to go with a big monitor. I was considering getting a regular 17" and not a 17W because the 1024 vs 900. The regular 19"s are too big for now. I do not have a use for a dual monitor. I always have my Thinkpad T60p in front of me and the second monitor for my home PC a little on the side for occasional stuff. When I get done with the T60 I close it and place on top the keyboard for the other system which is identical to the T61p (made by lenovo, with thinkpad form factor).

So bottom line is I will get a 17" standard size or may be this one. The L2045w is very nice but is 4 inches taller. Too big for the visual line on the room geometry.

My point about the 1050 vs 900 for the vertical resolution is that it allows for a bit more vertical space.

Thanks for the comments.

I can't find any immediate fault with the VX1940W. I say give it a try.

I ordered one this morning. Should be here Tuesday. Thanks.

I have had the VX1940W monitor for a couple of days. With the brightness at 100, is way too bright. I have contrast and brigtnes at 70% and it is OK.

No dead pixels. The characters are on the small side, but that was expected because of the vertical resolution, and it is what I was looking for. It will work for me until I can get my Dell 2005FP setup at a bigger place.

 

[fivetiger]

Originally posted by: xtknight
Additionally, the 2232BW may be using S panels only this time around, which is a great thing. Unfortunately input lag on the 2232BW is much higher for some reason.

I'm probably going to pick up a monitor tonight, but I still can't decide between the 2232bw and the 226bw.

Best Buy has the 2232bw and Office Depot has the 226bw. Both stores have good return policies (apparently), so I can't use that to make the decision.

Is the input lag on the 2232bw really that bad? Does it ruin the point of having a "2ms" response time? I game a lot, but I wouldn't say I'm hardcore about it (I probably don't need 2ms response time). Is the difference something that a casual gamer would notice?

Does a possibly lower input lag make it worth rolling the ol' lottery dice on the 226bw?

Thanks.

 

[Nnyan]

@xtnight

Hey there yourself xt, this thread has become a daily reader for me (as I'm sure it is for many other people. Just a great resource).

Thank you for pointing that out to me, I actually meant the glossy version. Going to stop by circuit city this weekend and pick it up so I can play around with it.

 

[pcmodem]

xtknight,
Do the Viewsonic VX2255wmb and the Viewsonic VA2226w share the same panel?



Thanks,
PCM

 

[Nnyan]

@fivetiger

I was concerned myself about the lag between the 226BW and the w2207 but at least to me it really wasn't an issue at all. Now of course that depends on how bad the input lag is on the 2232Xw's are. I'm picking that up this weekend and will post my thoughts as to how it compares to the 226BW and w2207.

 

[fivetiger]

Originally posted by: Nnyan
@fivetiger

I was concerned myself about the lag between the 226BW and the w2207 but at least to me it really wasn't an issue at all. Now of course that depends on how bad the input lag is on the 2232Xw's are. I'm picking that up this weekend and will post my thoughts as to how it compares to the 226BW and w2207.

I should already have mine by then, but I'd still like to hear your comparison since I won't have anything to compare mine to. (Knowing myself, it's probably better that way )

:evil: An upside to my monitor dying was that I got to discover how tough an LCD screen is. I have to say it was extraordinarily resistant to the 2.5" vinyl-coated sinker test.

 

[Nnyan]

LOL I'm deadly with a wiffleball bat (don't ask).

 

[TempletonPeck]

So I picked up LG's: L206WTQ-BF, I'll let you know how it goes with it after some time has past.

My initial impression is, so far so good. It has a little backlight bleed at the top and bottom, but less then the Samsung 206bw I returned. Nothing to get bent out of shape about.

I ran dead pixel buddy and found nothing at this point.

I ran a few videos, seems good so far, no artifacts to speak of, or real ghosting problems.

I can live with a little backlight bleed if everything else is good.

 

[j0j081]

Originally posted by: xtknight

Originally posted by: TempletonPeck
Thanks for the link.

If I had looked at xbitlabs ahead of time last time, I would have noticed they mentioned the Samsung 206bw had some very noticeable artifacts showing up with their RTA technology. I probably would have never picked it up.

Sorry for your bad experience.

I might consider removing the 206BW and 226BW from the list (second time I've heard of issues with 6 series after just a few posts). I'm not too happy about that but how was regular ghosting with RTA off?

Should a decent alternative come I will definitely replace the 206BW (the replacement of which may very well be the LG 206 or 207).

For the 206bw it depends what panel you get just like with the 226bw except with the 206bw at least there is no dreaded C panel. The latest panel which I have in mine manufactured by AUO actually has specs equal to that of the new 226CW with the enhanced color gamut and there isn't any artifacting as far as I can tell. This is my 2nd 206bw and even the first one I had was pretty good, not quite as good as this one but certainly nothing to complain about. Here is a link with the specs to it. I doubt any of the reviews even had this good of a panel as it is a new one.

http://www.auo.com/auoDEV/prod...duct_id=134&items_id=1

 

[imported_duderino]

thanks for your feedback xtknight! hey do you have any affiliate accounts set up with any of the distributors like amazon, etc? i know i'd be more than willing to click through a link you provide to those guys so you can get a kickback from a purchase i make--even if it's a few more bucks than newegg, etc.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: fivetiger

Originally posted by: xtknight
Additionally, the 2232BW may be using S panels only this time around, which is a great thing. Unfortunately input lag on the 2232BW is much higher for some reason.

I'm probably going to pick up a monitor tonight, but I still can't decide between the 2232bw and the 226bw.

Best Buy has the 2232bw and Office Depot has the 226bw. Both stores have good return policies (apparently), so I can't use that to make the decision.

Is the input lag on the 2232bw really that bad? Does it ruin the point of having a "2ms" response time? I game a lot, but I wouldn't say I'm hardcore about it (I probably don't need 2ms response time). Is the difference something that a casual gamer would notice?

Does a possibly lower input lag make it worth rolling the ol' lottery dice on the 226bw?

Thanks.

Personally, I doubt a casual gamer would notice it. Only someone with seasoned senses ( e.g. a "computer athlete" ) would be able to tell.

Besides you might have a better chance of getting an S panel with the 2232BW so at least you may get better response and colors. I think the whole input lag thing is overblown. It should not be news to anyone that humans are able to adapt to things. For gamers who insist otherwise there are panels for them that have been proven to have low input lag.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: pcmodem
xtknight,
Do the Viewsonic VX2255wmb and the Viewsonic VA2226w share the same panel?



Thanks,
PCM

Maybe...either way, the VX2255wmb is a sure bet while I don't know anything about the VA.

Originally posted by: j0j081
For the 206bw it depends what panel you get just like with the 226bw except with the 206bw at least there is no dreaded C panel. The latest panel which I have in mine manufactured by AUO actually has specs equal to that of the new 226CW with the enhanced color gamut and there isn't any artifacting as far as I can tell. This is my 2nd 206bw and even the first one I had was pretty good, not quite as good as this one but certainly nothing to complain about. Here is a link with the specs to it. I doubt any of the reviews even had this good of a panel as it is a new one.

http://www.auo.com/auoDEV/prod...duct_id=134&items_id=1

They are using 20.1" wide-gamut panels in the 206BW? This is very surprising. How exactly did you deduce this (e.g. did you open up your panel)?

Originally posted by: duderino
thanks for your feedback xtknight! hey do you have any affiliate accounts set up with any of the distributors like amazon, etc? i know i'd be more than willing to click through a link you provide to those guys so you can get a kickback from a purchase i make--even if it's a few more bucks than newegg, etc.

Nope, I have no desire to do so. The only thing valuable to this community is not money but knowledge. If I didn't enjoy it it wouldn't make much sense for me to be doing it.