[Retired] The LCD Thread

[daiphoenix]

Hi. I've been followin the recommendations of this thread for a while now, and I have recently bought a L1970HR. The monitor is indeed pretty good but there is one thing annoying me: Digital Fine Contrast (aka dynamic contrast?).
It doesn't botter me most of the time, but on certain games (and some movies too), such as Resident Evil, where the game often changes from one "scene" to another, the DFC is quite noticeable, and thus annoying. Have other people had similar concerns with this feature, either in this monitor or other similar ones? Perhaps this should be mentioned in the monitor review/comments?
Also, is it somehow possible to disable DFC? (Didn't find anything in the LCD menu that looked like it).

 

[TraumaRN]

Originally posted by: Deinonych

Originally posted by: muppet22
drivers for nvidia and ati can put black bars on the side for non-ws games

Only problem is, that ability has been bugged in NVIDIA's drivers for quite some time now. Don't know about ATI, though.

Which really makes me look at the 2253BW closely. Since I have an NVIDIA card.

 

[BassBomb]

Originally posted by: Deinonych

Originally posted by: muppet22
drivers for nvidia and ati can put black bars on the side for non-ws games

Only problem is, that ability has been bugged in NVIDIA's drivers for quite some time now. Don't know about ATI, though.

Works fine, except for HDTV's resizing

 

[muppet22]

Originally posted by: Deinonych

Originally posted by: muppet22
drivers for nvidia and ati can put black bars on the side for non-ws games

Only problem is, that ability has been bugged in NVIDIA's drivers for quite some time now. Don't know about ATI, though.

really? i can confirm that it works in ATI's newest drivers. is it really broken in nvidia's drivers? i just got a 8800gt the other day so i'll have to check this out

anyone else with an nvidia card try this?

 

[TraumaRN]

Originally posted by: muppet22

Originally posted by: Deinonych

Originally posted by: muppet22
drivers for nvidia and ati can put black bars on the side for non-ws games

Only problem is, that ability has been bugged in NVIDIA's drivers for quite some time now. Don't know about ATI, though.

really? i can confirm that it works in ATI's newest drivers. is it really broken in nvidia's drivers? i just got a 8800gt the other day so i'll have to check this out

anyone else with an nvidia card try this?

I've tried a few times with my current monitor and nvidia drivers and had nothing but problems. *shrug*

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: Rickover

xtknight, thank-you for your comprehensive reply. I first want to say that I canceled the order from B&H without hassle since it was still backordered. *whew*

The confusing part for me was that since most of the pro posters here are photo editors, there was very little specific info on video, much less video color correction. In fact, this was the case on other forums too when concerning these monitors. Since the closest thing to video on your lists was multimedia, it played a large part in my decision making. When it comes to photo editing, you actually have two lists. One for print, and one for the web. Which should I use for HD Video? The multimedia list tipped the decision. I have since learned more on the subject and I was just looking to improve upon your excellent guide at the top of this thread.

I do hope to clarify some of this but even I have just recently learned some of this stuff. And updating the OP takes some ambition for me.

The problem is, HD Video isn't necessarily just one color space. I guess even people in the field like you are confused about what to use but I don't blame you. I don't really know, either. Documentation is piss poor and the actual data are crammed in pdfs that somebody made in their basement.

From what I can tell, HD in the US uses the sRGB color space (~72% NTSC) at a gamma of 2.2 (NOT sRGB), with black point compensation (rather, luminance range of 16-235 vs 0-255). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rec._709

There are other factors that complicate things for me. Such as the fact that I will be working with the Red camera, which uses a wide gamut, and the Matrox MXO, which might make the sRGB concerns on the 2690 moot. I'm still talking tho Matrox about that. I invite you to check out these interesting products, especially the Matrox MXO, as you seem to be quite interested in this subject.

Nice. That Red camera looks real interesting. I believe it was used for the Mammoth HD captures which I have played, and they look awesome. The MXO looks neat too but it costs as much as a monitor! And I'm not sure exactly what it does? I see scaling options although I don't quite understand its purpose. I never have issues with A/V sync with my mundane 7800GT and Audigy?

I also want to bring up the point that oversaturation isn't always a positive, even in non color critical work. True the reds are redder and the greens greener, but is that what the film director intended? Color correction is a long process where the director and the colorist meticulously look for a color scheme that conveys the proper mood of a scene. By "raising the volume" of these colors, are you not playing the music too loudly?

Yup although some people (not like you and I) simply like vibrance and go for it. Perhaps this is because many accurate monitors aren't vibrant enough but I think with the higher contrast ratios of the H-IPS panels we're getting there. I am perfectly happy with the vibrance of my 2690. It is nothing short of amazing (Speed Racer QuickTime trailer 1080p on NEC 20WMGX2 vs 2690, the 2690 whoops it). But even though Speed Racer looks just a tad overvibrant on my 2690 I prefer the 2690 look as a matter of fact. But it's hard to say without having a 2490 with which to test. (Shortly I will have a VX2435wm standard gamut though.)

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: Tasiin
Refund. I'm going to consider my options after that and decide whether I really want another LCD, I guess. I was just wondering whether this is normal or not for the LP2065 in case I ever decide to try another.

I could still try the 2007FP, but it could be just as bad. I don't know whether the flickering will be any better or worse, and it will still have many of the same problems. If the 2007WFP is anything to go by it will probably have less backlight bleeding, input lag, and more natural colors out of the box. My friend still insists that there's absolutely no flickering on either of his 2007FPs, so it's a little tempting.

I've also been getting headaches while using the LP2065 (and the Dell just before I returned it). No idea what might be causing it, but I might end up having the same problem with the 2007FP. It seems to be worse when playing games, but it can happen anywhere really. I was getting a particularly bad headache one day while playing a game on the LP2065, and ironically enough after switching it over to my CRT it was gone in about 15 minutes. Are these older S-IPS displays known to cause more eyestrain than other panel types? I've never had this problem with other LCDs I've used, and they've all been more comfortable for reading text than these have, really.

It might have to do with brightness and contrast. S-IPS panels these days are bright but not all of them deliver great contrast. TNs are low brightness and high contrast which is easy on the eyes. But I don't know if that has anything to do with what you're feeling; personally I found the 2007FP quite easy on the eyes although I didn't use it for long.

I took a look at the PL2010M and 204B that you suggested, but I can't find either of them locally. Best Buy is really the only store around here with much of a selection at all, and they mostly carry just 22" and below TNs. I don't know if any of those would really be an option, though to be fair the 2232BW they had on display (in the wrong resolution, of course) didn't look too terrible.

Maybe you should just try a 22" TN. I mean, the viewing angles aren't that bad. I'd take a 22" TN over a 19" MVA any day, and this is based on thorough personal experience with both. Debate if you want an LCD without flickering or other weird issues (bad anti-glare coating), or one with perfect color accuracy. In this world, you aren't getting both at least for under $500, regardless of what sense that makes. Indecision is going to kill you though (as is trying IPS after IPS). Trust me there!

Buy a 22" locally and that way you even have the option of returning it. I don't think Best Buy even charges a restocking fee for monitors. 14-day return period. Ditto for ordering online from them. What do you have to lose?

http://www.bestbuy.com/site//o...7177044087&id=cat12098

See if they carry the new L227WT at your stores. It's supposed to be great (at least from the prad review I read). It is wide gamut though so it's not suitable for [sRGB] photo editing unless you use color management. You don't need a colorimeter though, you can hand Photoshop the ICM profile provided on the CD.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/ol...oduct&id=1201913867539

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: AxilX
Well i've read through quite a bit of this thread, and i was wondering, what's the final verdict on the Samsung 2253BW I'm switching from a CRT monitor, and have actually never ever owned an LCD, so i'm very worried about the blurring in games. From what i hear the 2253BW is supposed to have very low input lag and of course it has the 2ms, with the overdrive enabled. At the same time i don't want to sacrifice everything else for shear speed, and i'd like to stay in the 22''(W) range, is there a better option i'm missing? Is the panel lottery alive and kicking in the 2253's? and if so are the non-S versions really so terrible?

Well people speak of no blue dominance on the 2253 and input lag/response is supposed to be good, so you can give it a try. There haven't been any pro reviews though. I'm afraid I really don't have anything better to suggest, anyway. Right now all 2253s use a CMO but many are happy with it.

See http://www.hardforum.com/showt...ighlight=2253bw&page=8

and earlier pages of that thread.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: afterblast
I was looking for a good 22" LCD at a inexpensive price (of course ) I came across the following:

http://www.citrusmicro.com/ViewEra-V220D-p/v220d-sb.htm

It seems like a really good deal but I not familiar with viewera. Does any one know much about them?
I value any reply here.

Thanks,
T.

I'm not familiar with it either, but I direct you towards the Acer AL2216wbd.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...24009094&Tpk=al2216wbd

$230. Not sure it's really worth it though when you could have a 2253 for $280. http://www.newegg.com/Product/...16824001268&Tpk=2253bw

It's very likely the 2253bw is better in all aspects but I can't really confirm it.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: AxilX
Well i went ahead and got the 2253. It looks nice, there is definately some Backlight bleed, but i have a very hard time noticing it unless i turn the screen all black in which case the top half inch has a moderate whitish glow and the bottom inch and a half has a very light purple glow. Part of that is also due to my viewing angle i believe, i'm looking down on it abit because the stand is crappy, and i haven't yet found anything to wedge under it. No dead pixels, i bought a 2yr warrenty from CC anyway though, they said if i was unhappy with it for any reason at all in the next two years i could get it replaced. I've heard pix can go bad on these things months in, so i figured it was worth the extra 40$ I'm not sure if i have the blue dominance problem, all i've really done is load up WoW for about 15 minutes and surf the web. How blue is the default background in this forum, if it's supposed to be grey, i have a problem, lol.

I'd like to know how i can check my color calibration, and also how to run a latancy test. I noticed WoW seemed slightly blurry compared to my CRT, but then i was spinning my character around as fast i as i could to see if that was the case. Also, the size of the screen makes it hard to focus on it when you're spinning that fast, so that may have been part of the problem. All and all i can't same i'm either ecstatic with it, or disappointed, but then i exspect my components to work perfectly, so the thing would probley have to have a hidden hologram feature to really excite me. I"m going to watch some movies on it this weekend to see if i notice the BLB. But unless somthing else crops up (like the colors are off, and cannot be corrected) i'm probley going to keep this unit. Oh, and assembly is a breeze, the stand is kinda flimsy and not at all adjustable, but the simple design makes putting the thing together about a 45 second process.

There's lots of tests here to help you determine color accuracy:
http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/

Basically the gray grayscales should be gray, obviously.

 

[irvinenomore]

Originally posted by: xtknight

Originally posted by: irvinenomore
Have been looking at replacing my overly dark 17 inch CRT monitor and have been reading this great thread and the linked information but only achieved brain overload!

The monitor would be used for the following;

Mostly text and browsing.
Secondly multimedia including some HD.
Infrequently older flight simulators, Falcon 4 AF and Lock-On (not sure if Lock-on has widescreen support.)

Original budget up to $350 and was waiting for a sale at Futuresh**, bang for the buck is important.

Have relegated to second grade for the following reasons;

LG L226WTQ-SF ($270) - colour critized in a couple of reviews along with text quality.
Viewsonic VX2255wmb ($247) - power supply buzzing, I am a long time SPCR member and the monitor will sit in a living area but the bang for the buck aspect is making this one more atractive, maybe risking returning a buzzing one.

That leaves me we with the following choices;

HP w2207 refurbished ($250) - would have to play the panel lottery and hope for a good Samsung panel as is only available on line.
HP w2207h ($350) - like the glossy look in store, the portrait mode and USB hub. Concerned about reflection in daily use. Would try and cherry pick an LG panel.
Samsung 245BW ($380) - Concerned with the colour consistency for movies and the lack of output scaling for Lock-On. My other concern with this monitor and games is that I have read several comments that it needs a dual graphic card setup, so would like to understand how effective, or not, my X1950PRO 512mb will be driving it in flight sims?

I have very little idea about games and performance with video cards (keeping up with monitors alone isn't easy!) So you'd best look at benchmarks if you have questions about performance.

I thought Catalyst recently added scaling support but there's really no guarantee that you video card supports it. There have been and could be bugs with the scaling support on ATI cards. Sorry I can't really help you any further there unless I researched about the X1950 but you could do this just as well as I.

When it comes to monitors though I do think a 22" TN is a good upgrade.

I think you should try the VX2255wmb if you can get it from a store with the option of getting a refund (which means, usually not Newegg). I have heard of buzzing with several monitors and in real use I never really hear it (it might be quiet and in the back), or I have my headphones on.

The L227WT got a pretty good review from PRAD: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/ol...13867539#productdetail

It's wide gamut (at least the L227WT is, this should be the US model).

You might also want to look at the BenQ G2400W. It has fill, 1:1 and aspect scaling support, and probably better image quality for the Samsung at roughly the same price. It has great default color accuracy too.

Originally posted by: MR STROKE

Originally posted by: irvinenomore

That leaves me we with the following choices;

HP w2207 refurbished ($250) - would have to play the panel lottery and hope for a good Samsung panel as is only available on line.
HP w2207h ($350) - like the glossy look in store, the portrait mode and USB hub. Concerned about reflection in daily use. Would try and cherry pick an LG panel.
Samsung 245BW ($380) - Concerned with the colour consistency for movies and the lack of output scaling for Lock-On. My other concern with this monitor and games is that I have read several comments that it needs a dual graphic card setup, so would like to understand how effective, or not, my X1950PRO 512mb will be driving it in flight sims?

I have used all three of those monitors in the last 2 weeks and IMO I would go with the 245bW...started out with the w2207h and it had some banding issues, returned that and tracked down a 2207 open box w/ a sammy pannel. The 2207 looks great instore with the glossy finish but as soon as I got it home after 3 days of use it was giving me a headace and the viewing angles were the worst I have ever seen(even worse than my cheap 17 acer monitor at work)...went with the 245bw after reading the recomendation here, and can not be happier, viewing angles are MUCH better than the HP's, fast(no lag), 3 year warranty, and text just looks so much better overall with the 245bw...

good luck

Thanks guys for the helpful advice. Will probably do a little photoshop or GIMP with the monitor so I guess I should pay attention to colour accuracy.

Had a little more time to think this over and am crossing the w2207 off the list due to the low warranty period and I don't want to play a panel lottery. The USB ports and the pivoting stand are nice. However I could just put a powered hub on my desktop and an aftermarket pivoting stand is about $50. The VX2255wmb is still an option, partly because Prad.de gives it such a high rating and partly because it seems to be good value at $247.

xtKnight The L227WT has can't be found in the wild in Canada yet so I will have to pass on that option, before I posted my question I had seen the BenQ G2400W for $335 online in Canada. Had dismissed it because it was at an online store but looking at the Prad.de and DigitalVersus reviews and comparisons it beats the VX2255wmb and 245BW in most comparisons. Plus it's cheaper than the 245BW at the moment. As for the games and the X1950PRO I guess that I can deal with this through scaling.

Looks like I will be ordering a BenQ G2400W when Revenue Canada has finished being generous to me. If I can't get a G2400W for a decent price I will probably go with the VX2255wmb.

Thanks again, this is a great thread.

 

[redlinez33]

Well I have my 2707WFP now and have been playing with here. Here some very quick initial impressions.

The casing looks like its a $900 monitor (the price I paid).
Its bright, to bright, like the Planar PX2611W.
I can slightly tell theres input lag, but in games I dont feel it at all. It is no where near as bad as the Dell 2408 I had earlier. Most people probably wouldnt know about it on this monitor, unless they googled it.
Good response time from what I can tell,

SPVA seem to have a problem similar to TN panels, but the opposite. Large TN panels are darker at the top of the screen than the rest of the screen, unless you look directly at the top part of the screen. SPVA panels seem to be lighter on the left side (as your looking at the monitor) of the screen than the rest of the screen unless you are looking directly at it.. This isnt as bad on the 2707WFP as it was on the 2408WFP, but its still noticeable when your displaying a darkish image (in game etc). I would actually prefer it to get darker on the top than get lighter on the side , but there are many other advantages of SPVA that I am liking so far.

DEEP, DARK, BLACKS. Of course its lighter on the left of the screen, but I already said that. Black crush? Slightly, but again, not as bad as the 2408WFP (atleast from what I remember on this part)... Colors are nice and poppin, but not overly done like the 2408WFP. Closer to that of the PX2611W.

So far this seems to be the most pleasing looking monitor to my eyes, but I have just received it. Will hold further judgment until I do further testing (playing games etc )

Will post more when I have more.

 

[Tasiin]

I might have some trouble fitting a 22" -- the 20" I tried were already a bit of a tight fit with my 19" CRT. I'll probably be replacing my CRT with one of the larger 21" Dell P1130s I have lying around here soon as well, so if fitting a 22" proves to be impossible I might have to go with a smaller size (or a new desk!). Dropping down to a 19" LCD wouldn't be that big of a deal anyhow, since a 22" would really only offer more horizontal resolution and it would be a much easier fit.

Color accuracy actually isn't hugely important to me. I just want something that's reasonably uniform and has clear, sharp text that won't cause too much eyestrain. Being able to dial down the brightness to sane levels is also important, and I know that can be difficult to do on some of the newer displays. I also don't want a huge amount of backlight bleeding (though I know I'm going to get at least a little if I'm buying a TN) or really noticeable dithering artifacts.

I think Best Buy only carries the L227WTG here, the glossy version. The store nearest to me also doesn't have it yet, but it is listed on their site. If I can find the WT it sounds like it would be worth a try, though I am a little concerned about the wide gamut oversaturating things. If I can't get a 22", are there many decent 5:4 19" displays left or have they all gone widescreen? The LGs you recommend on the first page seem to be a little tough to find, at least locally, though it looks there are quite a few extremely similar models.

Also, do you happen to know whether the L227 or any of the other 22" or 19" displays support a true 75hz at the native resolution? I know the Samsung 226BW can do it (which is actually available locally here, but that's a lottery and a bit older), and it seems to be somewhat common among 19" LCDs.

 

[redlinez33]

How come I dont see reviews mentioning the problem of the left side of the screen being brighter than the right on SPVA panels? I would figure it would be pretty easy to notice? I doubt I got a defective unit, since the 2408WFP had the same problem

 

[albovin]

Originally posted by: redlinez33
Well I have my 2707WFP now and have been playing with here. Here some very quick initial impressions.

Black crush? Slightly, but again, not as bad as the 2408WFP (atleast from what I remember on this part)...

Black crush + colorshift on 2707 is not even a grain better than on 2408 or any other PVA.

 

[redlinez33]

What i remember on the 2408WFP is that the left side of the screen was WAY brighter than the rest of the screen but on the 2707 its only slightly brighter. Not even close to being as bad.

Any other pictures besides that one that shows more detail comparing the two monitors?

 

[faulted1]

After following this thread for a long time, I purchased the DS-263n from Newegg and also the Huey pro.

Initial installation on XP went without a hitch. The monitor was installed as a PnP monitor and I then installed the Huey Pro and this required a reboot. Following the directions with this software, the monitor was quickly improved.

Here is where I had my first problem. The monitor will not go into sleep mode, or maybe I should say stay. The monitor will indicate "no signal" DVI D1. Then cycle through the other connections and come back to D1 and turn back on. I then found the driver for this model on the DS website and installed that driver. I disconnected the huey pro and disabled room lighting compensation. Although the manual indicated DDC/CI is on by default, it was not. I entered the OSD and changed this setting to "ON" but it does not affect the operation.

Colors are great but the screen "to my eyes" still seems very bright.

Anyone had similar problems?

 

[xtknight]

Hmm quite a hunk of 20WMGX2s available here: http://www.etech4sale.com/NEC_...artinfo-id-421016.html

 

[muppet22]

Originally posted by: redlinez33
Well I have my 2707WFP now and have been playing with here. Here some very quick initial impressions.

The casing looks like its a $900 monitor (the price I paid).
Its bright, to bright, like the Planar PX2611W.
I can slightly tell theres input lag, but in games I dont feel it at all. It is no where near as bad as the Dell 2408 I had earlier. Most people probably wouldnt know about it on this monitor, unless they googled it.
Good response time from what I can tell,

SPVA seem to have a problem similar to TN panels, but the opposite. Large TN panels are darker at the top of the screen than the rest of the screen, unless you look directly at the top part of the screen. SPVA panels seem to be lighter on the left side (as your looking at the monitor) of the screen than the rest of the screen unless you are looking directly at it.. This isnt as bad on the 2707WFP as it was on the 2408WFP, but its still noticeable when your displaying a darkish image (in game etc). I would actually prefer it to get darker on the top than get lighter on the side , but there are many other advantages of SPVA that I am liking so far.

DEEP, DARK, BLACKS. Of course its lighter on the left of the screen, but I already said that. Black crush? Slightly, but again, not as bad as the 2408WFP (atleast from what I remember on this part)... Colors are nice and poppin, but not overly done like the 2408WFP. Closer to that of the PX2611W.

So far this seems to be the most pleasing looking monitor to my eyes, but I have just received it. Will hold further judgment until I do further testing (playing games etc )

Will post more when I have more.

on my 275t+, the brightness on the screen seems pretty uniform..maybe it's just a dell thing?

what exactly is black crush?

 

[DaveLessnau]

Originally posted by: xtknight
Hmm quite a hunk of 20WMGX2s available here: http://www.etech4sale.com/NEC_...artinfo-id-421016.html

No personal experience. But, I'm not too impressed with etech4sale's customer rating on:

http://www.resellerratings.com/store/etech4sale

Dave Lessnau

 

[muppet22]

i've had the 275t+ for a few weeks now, and here are some notes on it:

the colors look great, and the contrast is amazing. i've been watching HD tv on it and love it. i sit about 3' away from the monitor since its so big.

i have the monitor at 75 contrast, 55 brightness. in the OSD, there is an option for PiP but i have not used it. you can also force the monitor to non-widescreen, but this is annoying to use compared to using (ati's) video drivers to keep aspect ratio in games. there is 'color innovation' which can be set to brilliant, mild, normal, demo, or custom. from what i see, it saturates the colors more..which is appealing to me. 'color tone' can be set to varying degrees of warm and cool. gamma correction can be set anywhere from -0.2 to +0.6. you can change RGB colors, saturation (RGBCMY), and hue (also RGBCYM). you can also lower the brightness of the power LED to comfortable levels.

the sides of the screen appear *slightly* brighter when i look at http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/viewing_angle.php full-screen, however it is not noticeable in regular use.

here are some tests comparing my 275t+ and my 906bw. i dont know if anyone has done input lag tests before on a 906bw..but it should have low lag.

i did some input lag tests with the camera on my phone (samsung sgh-d900; 3.0mp) ..unfortunately this is all i have and it looks like the shutter speed isn't that great. anyone care to analyze these? note: i did not use a dvi splitter.

http://img337.imageshack.us/my.php?image=timer2xn7.jpg
http://img337.imageshack.us/my.php?image=timer3yi8.jpg
http://img337.imageshack.us/my.php?image=timer4bk7.jpg
http://img337.imageshack.us/my.php?image=timer5kq0.jpg

i did some less scientific tests with http://www.humanbenchmark.com/...reactiontime/index.php , and on the 275t+ i get ~210 if i click fast, or something around 225-240 if not. on my 906bw i get around 190-205, and ~175 if i "click fast". my best was 165.




after reading about input lag at x-bit labs, i was swayed to believe that input lag was an overrated factor..i really wanted to believe this, because i love the picture quality and black levels on my 275t+.

however, i just played counter-strike source for an hour or so, comparing both monitors. playing on the 906bw was quick and reactive. it felt like i was drunk when playing on the 275t+. it was definitely noticeable and quickly became annoying. both monitors appeared to have artifacts when things moved fast across the screen. the 275t+ seemed to have slightly more ghosting than the 906bw, although i wouldn't say it was bad.

i used to play in cal-m and cevo..so i am a somewhat competitive gamer. i am sad to say i will be sending this monitor back. 0 dead or stuck pixels. i placed an order for the ds-263n..hopefully i will like it

 

[pilafi]

Originally posted by: muppet22
i used to play in cal-m and cevo..so i am a somewhat competitive gamer. i am sad to say i will be sending this monitor back. 0 dead or stuck pixels. i placed an order for the ds-263n..hopefully i will like it

It looks like VA monitors are not for you. They all lag 2-3 frames behind, unless you disable overdrive, and I'm not sure if there's such an option on any of them. Even then, ghosting is a problem, especially on black to grey transitions.

As for me, I'm not bothered by input lag. I played Crysis for a few hours on my newly bought VX2435wm and it's fantastic. I don't play much now, although I used to play UT online. My previous monitor was a PVA without overdrive and I prefer input lag to ghosting which is very evident on VAs without overdrive.

Good luck with the DS-263N, it's a pity us Europeans can't get it!

 

[brumby05]

Is there anyway to find out if an LCD monitor has 1:1 mapping. I want to use a 24" monitor for pc and xbox 360 gaming. I will use 1920 x 1200 for pc and 1920 x 1080 for 360. So for the 360 I want 1:1 mapping so the image is not stretched.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: DeathBUA
Ok so after reviewing this thread and reading some reviews, I either want a Samsung 2253BW or the BenQ2400W.

I like the price on the BenQ for sure, but I like that the Samsung can do the Aspect Ratio Control for games that dont support widescreen. And I guess is the extra $90 for the 24 inch screen worth it considering I have an 880GT.

Really I think 1680x1050 is the sweet spot for the 8800GT.

My uses would be mostly gaming and movie watching, with light photo editing.

8800GT? That should handle 1920x1200 easily. Unless you run Crysis or something but I'm not sure of the exact numbers.

I get by pretty well at 1920x1200 with a 7800GT. Just can't use full high settings all of the time, but mostly high without AA work well.

The BenQ can do at least as much as the Samsung. It can do 1:1, aspect, and fill.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: daiphoenix
Hi. I've been followin the recommendations of this thread for a while now, and I have recently bought a L1970HR. The monitor is indeed pretty good but there is one thing annoying me: Digital Fine Contrast (aka dynamic contrast?).
It doesn't botter me most of the time, but on certain games (and some movies too), such as Resident Evil, where the game often changes from one "scene" to another, the DFC is quite noticeable, and thus annoying. Have other people had similar concerns with this feature, either in this monitor or other similar ones? Perhaps this should be mentioned in the monitor review/comments?
Also, is it somehow possible to disable DFC? (Didn't find anything in the LCD menu that looked like it).

I thought this could be disabled in "Normal" or "User" mode or something like it, but I'm not sure. I'm pretty sure I was able to disable it on my dad's L226WT.