[Retired] The LCD Thread

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: DeathBUA

Originally posted by: muppet22

Originally posted by: Deinonych

Originally posted by: muppet22
drivers for nvidia and ati can put black bars on the side for non-ws games

Only problem is, that ability has been bugged in NVIDIA's drivers for quite some time now. Don't know about ATI, though.

really? i can confirm that it works in ATI's newest drivers. is it really broken in nvidia's drivers? i just got a 8800gt the other day so i'll have to check this out

anyone else with an nvidia card try this?

I've tried a few times with my current monitor and nvidia drivers and had nothing but problems. *shrug*

My 7800GT works fine with 169.12 Linux drivers and some sort of Windows drivers in the >100 range. It has always worked with every driver I've tried.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: Tasiin
I might have some trouble fitting a 22" -- the 20" I tried were already a bit of a tight fit with my 19" CRT. I'll probably be replacing my CRT with one of the larger 21" Dell P1130s I have lying around here soon as well, so if fitting a 22" proves to be impossible I might have to go with a smaller size (or a new desk!). Dropping down to a 19" LCD wouldn't be that big of a deal anyhow, since a 22" would really only offer more horizontal resolution and it would be a much easier fit.

Color accuracy actually isn't hugely important to me. I just want something that's reasonably uniform and has clear, sharp text that won't cause too much eyestrain. Being able to dial down the brightness to sane levels is also important, and I know that can be difficult to do on some of the newer displays. I also don't want a huge amount of backlight bleeding (though I know I'm going to get at least a little if I'm buying a TN) or really noticeable dithering artifacts.

I think Best Buy only carries the L227WTG here, the glossy version. The store nearest to me also doesn't have it yet, but it is listed on their site. If I can find the WT it sounds like it would be worth a try, though I am a little concerned about the wide gamut oversaturating things. If I can't get a 22", are there many decent 5:4 19" displays left or have they all gone widescreen? The LGs you recommend on the first page seem to be a little tough to find, at least locally, though it looks there are quite a few extremely similar models.

Also, do you happen to know whether the L227 or any of the other 22" or 19" displays support a true 75hz at the native resolution? I know the Samsung 226BW can do it (which is actually available locally here, but that's a lottery and a bit older), and it seems to be somewhat common among 19" LCDs.

I know the ViewSonic VP930b can do 75 Hz at 1280x1024 (I've tried this myself), and that would be a possible choice for you. You'd be getting a newer rev than I had. Unfortunately, mine had annoying dithering/FRC artifacts. Easily visible on sites like HardForum. I don't know if the latest rev 3 remedies that.

The Samsung 940T is supposed to be a great PVA display but the problem is, it comes in overdrive and non-overdrive versions. See X-Bit: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articl...19inch-9_13.html#sect0

Besides I can't see the 8 ms available in the US anywhere.

The 19" Samsung VAs have been known to use dithering anyway.

Then there's the Dell 1907FPV (no overdrive I assume). And HP LP1965 with overdrive. No idea if these do 75 Hz. Some do 75 Hz but skip frames, but I doubt the 60 Hz thing is an eye strain causer anyway. It's probably just more the way an LCD works (hold instead of impulse) if that.

Many 19" LCDs use outdated panels with dithering issues. That's why I'd recommend a 20" or higher panel even if it's a TN. Or you can check out some of the "yuppie spankin new and improved" 19" TNs at Best Buy and find one that has no dithering issues and buy it.

IPS displays tend to have issues, especially the cheaper ones. VA panels aren't so immune to problems either. Many smaller ones have dithering. So, essentially your decision tree should look like the following:

1. 20" VA
2. new-generation 19" TN (primarily high-contrast LG, Samsung panels)
3. 22" widescreen TN (if you can fit it, widescreen viewing angle isn't as bad)
4. 20" std. TN (TN at 20" standard starts to have poorer viewing angle)

You might just have to do things the old-fashioned way and just try your luck on a newer generation TN display like the rest of the Joe Sixpacks out there.

Seriously though VA panels are also great on the eyes because they have high contrast and you can tone down the brightness. I'm not so sure I'd rate IPS panels easy on the eyes (not anymore that they have gotten brighter, something about them is a little harsh). And IPS are more prone to screen-door effect because of pixel lining, at least AFAIK. Personally I haven't had eye-strain problem with any of my LCDs, only some pretty bad problems with a CRT.

I'm excited to hear what LCD you happen to settle on.

I'll have to revise my opinion of VA panels when I try out the VX2435wm. I believe it is an 8-domain vs. my 4-domain smaller VP930b (and the VP930b had no true 8-bit DAC).

One of my best recommendations for you is to ensure that you have a good amount of ambient light so that the screen isn't "blasting" backlight into your face.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: Gatss

Originally posted by: xtknight
I've got a VX2435wm (S-MVA) on the way. At least a brief review will come soon. Probably won't be here till next week.

Won't be mine but I'll take suggestions on what you want to hear about it. I will have a few days to spend with it.

I purchased that same model and have pm'ed you a few times with questions which you answered. I would be curious how you set the monitors display values for what you think are the most accurate. Contrast, Brightness, Color Adjust, Opticolor Mode, Opticolor Skin Mode. I am not sure if you can test it with a Vista OS and Nvidia Control Panel but I would like to know how you set Vista's Color Management and Nvidia's Desktop Color Settings. I still don't know how to turn off Nvidia's Control Panel Desktop Color Settings.

Thanks!

Oh and an xtknight approved ICC Profile might be nice!

I have Vista within a virtual machine but the virtual machine does not expose my NVIDIA card to it, so I will be unable to see how the NVIDIA Vista drivers interact with it. Color management and LUT-loading is also not supported there.

I can however test NVIDIA Linux64 and NVIDIA XP32 drivers with the VX2435wm which I'm guessing should be adequate. I will definitely take a look at the EDID on this display which is supposedly a little buggy.

I'll definitely be developing some ICC profiles for it and will post them here. Hopefully I'll be able to do some comparing with the LCD26 and 20WMGX2.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: redlinez33
How come I dont see reviews mentioning the problem of the left side of the screen being brighter than the right on SPVA panels? I would figure it would be pretty easy to notice? I doubt I got a defective unit, since the 2408WFP had the same problem

I haven't really heard of this being a general VA problem. Sounds like a Dell issue.

VA panels may vary depending on angle but I don't think one side should be brighter than the other straight-on.

what exactly is black crush?

The inability to show darker shades of color.

VA panels crush details when you look straight on. The details are revealed with wider angles through gamma shift.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: muppet22
i've had the 275t+ for a few weeks now, and here are some notes on it:

the colors look great, and the contrast is amazing. i've been watching HD tv on it and love it. i sit about 3' away from the monitor since its so big.

i have the monitor at 75 contrast, 55 brightness. in the OSD, there is an option for PiP but i have not used it. you can also force the monitor to non-widescreen, but this is annoying to use compared to using (ati's) video drivers to keep aspect ratio in games. there is 'color innovation' which can be set to brilliant, mild, normal, demo, or custom. from what i see, it saturates the colors more..which is appealing to me. 'color tone' can be set to varying degrees of warm and cool. gamma correction can be set anywhere from -0.2 to +0.6. you can change RGB colors, saturation (RGBCMY), and hue (also RGBCYM). you can also lower the brightness of the power LED to comfortable levels.

the sides of the screen appear *slightly* brighter when i look at http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/viewing_angle.php full-screen, however it is not noticeable in regular use.

here are some tests comparing my 275t+ and my 906bw. i dont know if anyone has done input lag tests before on a 906bw..but it should have low lag.

i did some input lag tests with the camera on my phone (samsung sgh-d900; 3.0mp) ..unfortunately this is all i have and it looks like the shutter speed isn't that great. anyone care to analyze these? note: i did not use a dvi splitter.

http://img337.imageshack.us/my.php?image=timer2xn7.jpg
http://img337.imageshack.us/my.php?image=timer3yi8.jpg
http://img337.imageshack.us/my.php?image=timer4bk7.jpg
http://img337.imageshack.us/my.php?image=timer5kq0.jpg

i did some less scientific tests with http://www.humanbenchmark.com/...reactiontime/index.php , and on the 275t+ i get ~210 if i click fast, or something around 225-240 if not. on my 906bw i get around 190-205, and ~175 if i "click fast". my best was 165.




after reading about input lag at x-bit labs, i was swayed to believe that input lag was an overrated factor..i really wanted to believe this, because i love the picture quality and black levels on my 275t+.

however, i just played counter-strike source for an hour or so, comparing both monitors. playing on the 906bw was quick and reactive. it felt like i was drunk when playing on the 275t+. it was definitely noticeable and quickly became annoying. both monitors appeared to have artifacts when things moved fast across the screen. the 275t+ seemed to have slightly more ghosting than the 906bw, although i wouldn't say it was bad.

i used to play in cal-m and cevo..so i am a somewhat competitive gamer. i am sad to say i will be sending this monitor back. 0 dead or stuck pixels. i placed an order for the ds-263n..hopefully i will like it

The last photo doesn't make much sense to me. The 275T+ looks like it's ahead?

Anyway I'm sure the 275T+ probably has at least 3 or 4 frames of lag. The DS-263N has 1 or less as your 906BW probably does.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: brumby05
Is there anyway to find out if an LCD monitor has 1:1 mapping. I want to use a 24" monitor for pc and xbox 360 gaming. I will use 1920 x 1200 for pc and 1920 x 1080 for 360. So for the 360 I want 1:1 mapping so the image is not stretched.

Well which monitor are you talking about? There's not really a database that says yes or no but sometimes the manual (downloadable) states it. Otherwise someone here may know or can help you google it.

The VX2435wm has 1:1 mapping and it's a decent 24". On Newegg I see this:

When going 1:1 pixel mapping with the 360 at 1080p, it does black bars all around the image. Shouldn't it be only on top and bottom? However, if you put it on 16:9 mode it fixes the problem. Don't know why that is, but it leaves the aspect ratio right at least.

 

[muppet22]

Originally posted by: xtknight

Originally posted by: muppet22
i've had the 275t+ for a few weeks now, and here are some notes on it:

the colors look great, and the contrast is amazing. i've been watching HD tv on it and love it. i sit about 3' away from the monitor since its so big.

i have the monitor at 75 contrast, 55 brightness. in the OSD, there is an option for PiP but i have not used it. you can also force the monitor to non-widescreen, but this is annoying to use compared to using (ati's) video drivers to keep aspect ratio in games. there is 'color innovation' which can be set to brilliant, mild, normal, demo, or custom. from what i see, it saturates the colors more..which is appealing to me. 'color tone' can be set to varying degrees of warm and cool. gamma correction can be set anywhere from -0.2 to +0.6. you can change RGB colors, saturation (RGBCMY), and hue (also RGBCYM). you can also lower the brightness of the power LED to comfortable levels.

the sides of the screen appear *slightly* brighter when i look at http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/viewing_angle.php full-screen, however it is not noticeable in regular use.

here are some tests comparing my 275t+ and my 906bw. i dont know if anyone has done input lag tests before on a 906bw..but it should have low lag.

i did some input lag tests with the camera on my phone (samsung sgh-d900; 3.0mp) ..unfortunately this is all i have and it looks like the shutter speed isn't that great. anyone care to analyze these? note: i did not use a dvi splitter.

http://img337.imageshack.us/my.php?image=timer2xn7.jpg
http://img337.imageshack.us/my.php?image=timer3yi8.jpg
http://img337.imageshack.us/my.php?image=timer4bk7.jpg
http://img337.imageshack.us/my.php?image=timer5kq0.jpg

i did some less scientific tests with http://www.humanbenchmark.com/...reactiontime/index.php , and on the 275t+ i get ~210 if i click fast, or something around 225-240 if not. on my 906bw i get around 190-205, and ~175 if i "click fast". my best was 165.




after reading about input lag at x-bit labs, i was swayed to believe that input lag was an overrated factor..i really wanted to believe this, because i love the picture quality and black levels on my 275t+.

however, i just played counter-strike source for an hour or so, comparing both monitors. playing on the 906bw was quick and reactive. it felt like i was drunk when playing on the 275t+. it was definitely noticeable and quickly became annoying. both monitors appeared to have artifacts when things moved fast across the screen. the 275t+ seemed to have slightly more ghosting than the 906bw, although i wouldn't say it was bad.

i used to play in cal-m and cevo..so i am a somewhat competitive gamer. i am sad to say i will be sending this monitor back. 0 dead or stuck pixels. i placed an order for the ds-263n..hopefully i will like it

The last photo doesn't make much sense to me. The 275T+ looks like it's ahead?

Anyway I'm sure the 275T+ probably has at least 3 or 4 frames of lag. The DS-263N has 1 or less as your 906BW probably does.

hmm i was reading somewhere that the 275T has 2 frames of lag..i would have thought that the 275T+ would be similar. what makes you think 3-4+ frames? i'm guessing those photos are of little to no value because of a slow shutter speed. remember i took these pictures with my phone

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: muppet22

Originally posted by: xtknight

Originally posted by: muppet22
i've had the 275t+ for a few weeks now, and here are some notes on it:

the colors look great, and the contrast is amazing. i've been watching HD tv on it and love it. i sit about 3' away from the monitor since its so big.

i have the monitor at 75 contrast, 55 brightness. in the OSD, there is an option for PiP but i have not used it. you can also force the monitor to non-widescreen, but this is annoying to use compared to using (ati's) video drivers to keep aspect ratio in games. there is 'color innovation' which can be set to brilliant, mild, normal, demo, or custom. from what i see, it saturates the colors more..which is appealing to me. 'color tone' can be set to varying degrees of warm and cool. gamma correction can be set anywhere from -0.2 to +0.6. you can change RGB colors, saturation (RGBCMY), and hue (also RGBCYM). you can also lower the brightness of the power LED to comfortable levels.

the sides of the screen appear *slightly* brighter when i look at http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/viewing_angle.php full-screen, however it is not noticeable in regular use.

here are some tests comparing my 275t+ and my 906bw. i dont know if anyone has done input lag tests before on a 906bw..but it should have low lag.

i did some input lag tests with the camera on my phone (samsung sgh-d900; 3.0mp) ..unfortunately this is all i have and it looks like the shutter speed isn't that great. anyone care to analyze these? note: i did not use a dvi splitter.

http://img337.imageshack.us/my.php?image=timer2xn7.jpg
http://img337.imageshack.us/my.php?image=timer3yi8.jpg
http://img337.imageshack.us/my.php?image=timer4bk7.jpg
http://img337.imageshack.us/my.php?image=timer5kq0.jpg

i did some less scientific tests with http://www.humanbenchmark.com/...reactiontime/index.php , and on the 275t+ i get ~210 if i click fast, or something around 225-240 if not. on my 906bw i get around 190-205, and ~175 if i "click fast". my best was 165.




after reading about input lag at x-bit labs, i was swayed to believe that input lag was an overrated factor..i really wanted to believe this, because i love the picture quality and black levels on my 275t+.

however, i just played counter-strike source for an hour or so, comparing both monitors. playing on the 906bw was quick and reactive. it felt like i was drunk when playing on the 275t+. it was definitely noticeable and quickly became annoying. both monitors appeared to have artifacts when things moved fast across the screen. the 275t+ seemed to have slightly more ghosting than the 906bw, although i wouldn't say it was bad.

i used to play in cal-m and cevo..so i am a somewhat competitive gamer. i am sad to say i will be sending this monitor back. 0 dead or stuck pixels. i placed an order for the ds-263n..hopefully i will like it

The last photo doesn't make much sense to me. The 275T+ looks like it's ahead?

Anyway I'm sure the 275T+ probably has at least 3 or 4 frames of lag. The DS-263N has 1 or less as your 906BW probably does.

hmm i was reading somewhere that the 275T has 2 frames of lag..i would have thought that the 275T+ would be similar. what makes you think 3-4+ frames? i'm guessing those photos are of little to no value because of a slow shutter speed. remember i took these pictures with my phone

Well unless your phone has time-warping capabilities I don't see how the 275T+ is ahead. ( P.S. I accept time machine donations )

http://img337.imageshack.us/my.php?image=timer4bk7.jpg

I mean think about it. The highest number you see on the big display is '5' and the highest number you see on the lower one is '4'. Maybe you've uncovered some inherent fault in the camera-capture technique.

What program did you use for the first two? Not sure how to read those. I must be missing something.

 

[muppet22]

Originally posted by: xtknight

what exactly is black crush?

The inability to show darker shades of color.

VA panels crush details when you look straight on. The details are revealed with wider angles through gamma shift.

hmm, when i look at http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/black.php , 1 and 2 blend in with the background (and on http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/white.php i barely see 254). is this what you are talking about? it doesn't seem to help when i look at an angle though

 

[Laztlain]

Well I must say that this has been the BEST source of information on LCD monitors I have ever seen! Based primarily on the information I have gathered here, I believe I have narrowed down my choices for a new LCD. I use my computer for hardcore gaming; no movies, no photo editing, just plain good ol' fashion gaming. FPS mostly, but some other genres as well. Also, I have the nVidia 8800GT 512mb video card. I will be upgrading from a decent 19" CRT (ViewSonic UltraBrite A90f+) - so I think I would be able to notice lagging with slow LCD responses to a certain degree. I have around 300 bucks to spend and here are my current choices:

Soyo 24" DYLM24D6 - ONLY IF it goes back on sale at OfficeMax again
BenQ 24" G2400W - Again, IF I can find it on sale for around 300 bucks
Acer 22" AL2216Wbd - I can get this now for $195 delivered (AR) from CompUSA

I am a little worried that games such as Crysis - and newer - can really slow down my system at the 24" monitor's native resolution. Given this, and the fact that the other 2 monitor's I am looking at are currently not available at my price range, what do you think of the Acer as a gaming monitor; again keep in mind I am upgrading from a "fairly good" CRT? or perhaps another LCD (22" minimum) you would recommend?

Thanks!

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: muppet22

Originally posted by: xtknight

what exactly is black crush?

The inability to show darker shades of color.

VA panels crush details when you look straight on. The details are revealed with wider angles through gamma shift.

hmm, when i look at http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/black.php , 1 and 2 blend in with the background (and on http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/white.php i barely see 254). is this what you are talking about? it doesn't seem to help when i look at an angle though

Not really.

Take a look at this image for a better idea:

http://bp1.blogger.com/_0-tLLf...600-h/Dell+2408+#3.jpg

from http://monitortest.blogspot.com/

 

[muppet22]

Originally posted by: xtknight
I mean think about it. The highest number you see on the big display is '5' and the highest number you see on the lower one is '4'. Maybe you've uncovered some inherent fault in the camera-capture technique.

What program did you use for the first two? Not sure how to read those. I must be missing something.

oh i used http://lcdlagtester.googlepages.com/ which was made/posted by Yelnats on hardforum.

anyway yeah i'm not sure what is going on. maybe there is something different between the 2 dvi ports? although, surely i would have felt this in-game. other than that...maybe were seeing numbers from the previous second? :[ i dunno

 

[muppet22]

Originally posted by: xtknight

Originally posted by: muppet22

Originally posted by: xtknight

what exactly is black crush?

The inability to show darker shades of color.

VA panels crush details when you look straight on. The details are revealed with wider angles through gamma shift.

hmm, when i look at http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/black.php , 1 and 2 blend in with the background (and on http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/white.php i barely see 254). is this what you are talking about? it doesn't seem to help when i look at an angle though

Not really.

Take a look at this image for a better idea:

http://bp1.blogger.com/_0-tLLf...600-h/Dell+2408+#3.jpg

from http://monitortest.blogspot.com/

oh ok i see it. and it gets better with angle..

 

[xtknight]

LaCie 130778 (324) WG 24" S-PVA panel appeared on Newegg. $1000.

* Wide 16:10 format, vivid 92% NTSC gamut panel
* 10-bit gamma correction for smooth colors
* DCDi® by Faroudja video technology up to 1080p
* Picture-in-Picture, USB hub & headphone/speaker port

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...16824196019&Tpk=130778
http://www.lacie.com/us/products/product.htm?pid=11034 (See Item #)

Looks interesting. Earlier I thought it was H-IPS but it wasn't.

 

[xtknight]

muppet22: Does the 275T Plus that you have support scaling (1:1 and aspect)? On all connections, I wonder? I heard a 1:1 update was coming but it was in Asia or elsewhere...

 

[muppet22]

it only has an option for wide or 4:3..which is aspect i guess. all connections? only tried dvi..

 

[Deinonych]

Originally posted by: DeathBUA
I've tried a few times with my current monitor and nvidia drivers and had nothing but problems. *shrug*

Same experience here. I've never been able to get it to work with my 8800GTX, irrespective of monitor. It must be hardware-specific, because some people don't have problems with it.

 

[brumby05]

Originally posted by: xtknight

Originally posted by: brumby05
Is there anyway to find out if an LCD monitor has 1:1 mapping. I want to use a 24" monitor for pc and xbox 360 gaming. I will use 1920 x 1200 for pc and 1920 x 1080 for 360. So for the 360 I want 1:1 mapping so the image is not stretched.

Well which monitor are you talking about? There's not really a database that says yes or no but sometimes the manual (downloadable) states it. Otherwise someone here may know or can help you google it.

The VX2435wm has 1:1 mapping and it's a decent 24". On Newegg I see this:

When going 1:1 pixel mapping with the 360 at 1080p, it does black bars all around the image. Shouldn't it be only on top and bottom? However, if you put it on 16:9 mode it fixes the problem. Don't know why that is, but it leaves the aspect ratio right at least.

I wasn't really looking at anyone in particular but I am looking for an lcd monitor that has hdmi and dvi as I will use it with my 360 and pc. I think the dell 2408fwp looks good but I don't know how it is for gaming.

 

[daiphoenix]

Originally posted by: xtknight

Originally posted by: daiphoenix
Hi. I've been followin the recommendations of this thread for a while now, and I have recently bought a L1970HR. The monitor is indeed pretty good but there is one thing annoying me: Digital Fine Contrast (aka dynamic contrast?).
It doesn't botter me most of the time, but on certain games (and some movies too), such as Resident Evil, where the game often changes from one "scene" to another, the DFC is quite noticeable, and thus annoying. Have other people had similar concerns with this feature, either in this monitor or other similar ones? Perhaps this should be mentioned in the monitor review/comments?
Also, is it somehow possible to disable DFC? (Didn't find anything in the LCD menu that looked like it).

I thought this could be disabled in "Normal" or "User" mode or something like it, but I'm not sure. I'm pretty sure I was able to disable it on my dad's L226WT.

You mean just by being in those modes? No, that's not the case, it happens in any mode. :/

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: daiphoenix

Originally posted by: xtknight

Originally posted by: daiphoenix
Hi. I've been followin the recommendations of this thread for a while now, and I have recently bought a L1970HR. The monitor is indeed pretty good but there is one thing annoying me: Digital Fine Contrast (aka dynamic contrast?).
It doesn't botter me most of the time, but on certain games (and some movies too), such as Resident Evil, where the game often changes from one "scene" to another, the DFC is quite noticeable, and thus annoying. Have other people had similar concerns with this feature, either in this monitor or other similar ones? Perhaps this should be mentioned in the monitor review/comments?
Also, is it somehow possible to disable DFC? (Didn't find anything in the LCD menu that looked like it).

I thought this could be disabled in "Normal" or "User" mode or something like it, but I'm not sure. I'm pretty sure I was able to disable it on my dad's L226WT.

You mean just by being in those modes? No, that's not the case, it happens in any mode. :/

Not sure. There's nothing in the manual that indicates it (there's adaptive color and all that, though, which I assume it was lumped in with). I haven't heard of a monitor (under 32") where you couldn't disable dynamic contrast but maybe that's the case with this model. It wasn't even mentioned in the X-Bit Labs review which are usually pretty comprehensive. Maybe the US model is different somehow?

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articl...splay/19inch-5_15.html

Are you going to keep it, still? It's possible there's an option in the service menu but I don't know how to access that, either. Might be called "ACC" in there.

 

[muppet22]

Originally posted by: Deinonych

Originally posted by: muppet22
drivers for nvidia and ati can put black bars on the side for non-ws games

Only problem is, that ability has been bugged in NVIDIA's drivers for quite some time now. Don't know about ATI, though.

i just installed a 8800gt. i am using nvidia's 169.21 forceware and the option "Use NVIDIA scaling with fixed-aspect ratio" works as it should.

 

[redlinez33]

I think what I am seeing with the dell isnt the left side of the screen is technically brighter, is that the monitor is so big I see slight color shifting on the left part of the screen. because if I look straight on at the left part of the screen it looks normal.

 

[muppet22]

what about the right side though

 

[kentsfield]

Yesterday i tried to watch an 1080p movie on my NEC 20wgx2 pro. I use media player classic and ffdshow. I know my monitor does not support the 1080p (full hd). But i was able to watch the movie. Did the movie just downscaled or how is this possible? I think it looks better than my 720p movies. Can it hurt my monitor to watch 1080p?

 

[redlinez33]

the right side doesnt seem to shift as bad. Like a TN panel looks WAY worse when you look up at it, but not as bad when looking down on it (still washed out though).


its weird, I think I probably only notice these problems because I like to game in complete darkness.....

Besides this one flaw of PVA panels, I am liking the picture much better than the Planar and I am assuming its because of its high contrast.......