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Originally posted by: ericinho
@Xtknight: in your list of screens for print or webdesign brands like Eizo and LaCie are missing... how would you rank those among the once listed now?
Originally posted by: crackbone
I had a really similar question as Dashel.
My current monitor is a Dell 2000fp - specs are here: http://www.prad.de/en/guide/screen673.html (there's an annoying pop-up, sorry). It's the only place I can find info about it.
Now, I'd like to move to a widescreen, but the info I have indicates the 2000fp is an IPS panel, which makes me think I won't care for a TN panel, especially a 24". I'm trying to find a local dealer that has the BenQ 24" so I can get a feel for it, but buying a TN sight unseen gives me the heebie jeebies. That leaves me with the Doublesight/Planar 25.5" H-IPS as the most logical option.
I guess my question is, based on what the 2000fp specs are, is there anything (other than size) that would be noticeable between the two? Color, contrast, brightness, etc. I know a lot of these measurements are kind of worthless coming from manufacturers, but I'm wondering if I'd just be buying a larger version of my current monitor or getting significantly improved IPS tech.
Originally posted by: shaitan607
I am thinking of picking up a pair of the BenQ G2000W monitors. Anyone have any experience using one of these?
Originally posted by: afuturestrader
What Monitor Would You Recommend For Office Work?
I have been looking a monitors on and off for a few months to go with a new computer. The computer is ordered, time for some displays and update from CRT.
Many of you have far more expertise in this area than I so ....
The use would be for general office work - web browsing, email, IM, word documents, presentation creation etc. The second use if financial software, mostly 2d charts. No gaming or movies.
The most recent monitor productivity study linked below is very interesting and colors my selections.
http://blogs.wsj.com/biztech/2...ors-more-productivity/
Since my setup uses a lot of screen real estate I am looking at using either two 24 inch displays or two to three 20 inch displays.
For 20 inch displays my thought is the HP LP2065 or maybe a Dell ultra sharp.
The 24 inch choice seems more difficult given that I would prefer to keep the per monitor cost under $500 if possible. The Soyo and Westinghouse get a lot of mention. I have also seen reference to a reasonably priced 24 inch LG but I cannot seem to locate it for sale below $600.
Preferences-
1. Anti-glare
2. Non-Tn (concerned about viewing angles)
3. USB ports (fewer plugs into the portable laptop purchased for use with the displays)
What 24 inch monitor would you suggest?
Would you suggest the 20 inch or 24 inch option?
Thanks in advance
Originally posted by: Tasiin
All right, thanks. I'm going to head down to the Microcenter near me this weekend and see if they have a better selection than Best Buy, which has practically nothing here, and I'll see if they have any of your recommendations or anything decent at all.
I'm still a little unsure of VA panels though -- their tendency towards high input lag is a bit concerning. Apparently the gamma shifting on some of them is enough to cause unusual amounts of eyestrain for some people as well, and I could easily be one of them given the trouble I've had with IPS panels. Seems the LP2065 was definitely the cause of my headaches; they disappeared two days after I returned it and went back to my CRT, even though I'm using the computer more now.
On a somewhat unrelated note, do you have any opinion on the Spyder2 colorimeters? I was considering picking up the $55ish Express version since I'd like to calibrate a few of the CRTs I have around here (the colors are way off on at least one) and I could make use of it on the new LCD as well if I find one. It seems to have gotten generally favorable reviews for such a cheap calibrator, but I'm just wondering if it'd be worth it or if there'd be a big difference with a more expensive calibrator. I don't do anything that requires perfect color accuracy, but I thought it might help out on a few of the displays I have here.
Originally posted by: redlinez33
xtknight so the Viewsonic does the same thing as this dell? The left side of the screen seems to have lighter colors than the rest????
I guess its just the technology, but you would figure that reviewers of this monitor would see the problem and report it..... It almost seems like 24" + is to big for a VA panel.....
Whats weird is its only the left side thats really *brighter*. The right side only does it at extreme angles............. Ugh.
Originally posted by: tnecniv
Hey guys, my Samsung 226BW should be coming any second now, and I was wondering if there was anything special I had to do when I first use it, or if I can just plug and play..
Originally posted by: redlinez33
ya i keep saying brightness when I mean something else. :-\
Originally posted by: ericinho
@Xtknight: in your list of screens for print or webdesign brands like Eizo and LaCie are missing... how would you rank those among the once listed now?
Originally posted by: shinobiobi
i'm really having some trouble getting my 2253bw calibrated so that my eyes don't feel strained when i use it for general use, text especially. i noticed that my desktop seemed pretty different when i changed from my ati x1950pro to a 8800gt. everything just seems more...'blaring', if anyone understands what i mean by that. any help would be greatly appreciated.
Originally posted by: SomeOneS
Originally posted by: ericinho
@Xtknight: in your list of screens for print or webdesign brands like Eizo and LaCie are missing... how would you rank those among the once listed now?
I would like to know this as well, as I'm looking for a IPS (or S-PVA) 22"-25" widescreen monitor, chiefly to hook up to my laptop while at home for graphics use, and also preferably usable with a Wii for games and even movies. Planar, Doublesight (which sounds about ideal) and Dell are not available in Finland...
Originally posted by: shaitan607
I am thinking of picking up a pair of the BenQ G2000W monitors. Anyone have any experience using one of these?
Originally posted by: philhans
Interesting occurance with the doublesight DS-263N, it seems that there was atleast one floating around that actually had the A-TW polarizer. This coming from ToastyX from the hardocp forums. See http://www.hardforum.com/showt...2285812#post1032285812
If there were some way to guarantee getting one with that I'd buy one in a heartbeat. Still might go for one, but I might wait a little to see if anything else comes up.
Originally posted by: shinobiobi
been following this thread for a bit, and i finally got a new monitor this week, so i thought i'd register and join in the discussion.
i got the samsung 2253bw, and i'm loving it except for a few things that i'll chalk up to my inexperience with lcd's. i'm having of trouble tuning it so that the brightness/contrast is comfortable when i'm just browsing the web or chatting, black text on white background strains my eyes a bit, i just can't seem to get that right fit i had on my old lcd. if anyone could point me to an .icc profile a tuning guide/tips, it would be appreciated. also, how would i go about figuring out what kind of panel i have on my model? seems like everyone who's ordered one recently has gotten a cmo, but i'd like to find out so i can report back if there are others.
for the pros, games look really great, no display lag that i can detect, and 1:1 mode works pretty well. no dead pixels, side bleeding is minimal, the image is very consistent across the entire screen. vertical viewing angle is also pretty good, i start to slouch lower in my chair when i get lazy, and the display is still pretty good, but it does get a bit darker.
edit:
also, this is a unrelated to LCDs, but i also got a new video card before my monitor, i went from a x1950pro to a 8800gt. when i put the card in my old monitor, i felt a similiar effect having to do with the eyestrain on text that i did have on my ati card, i think it has something to do with the sharpness setting. if anyone is familiar with this situation, any advice would be appreciated.
Originally posted by: NZAmoeba
My previous question was long winded, I'll try it again shorter this time:
For high quality and FPS gaming, which out of this limited selection would be suitable?
AOC 416V 24" LCD monitor DVI 1920x1200 5ms
Acer P241W 24" LCD monitor 1920x1200
Acer Al2416WD 24" LCD DVI 6ms 1920x1200
Acer AL2416W 24" LCD, 1920x1200 2 prices
Samsung SyncMaster 245B 24" LCD, 5ms DVI-D 1920x1200
LG L246WH 24" LCD monitor, 4ms 1920x1200 DVI
Philips 240BW8EB 24" LCD monitor, 1920x1200
Samsung 2493HM 24" LCD monitor, 5ms Hdmi
Dell E248WFP 24" LCD monitor
Dell UltraSharp 2407WFP HC 24"
HP LP2465 24" LCD, 8ms 1920x1200 DVI
Dell UltraSharp 2408WFP 24" monitor 1920x1200, DVI
Samsung 244T 24" TFT LCD 16ms 1920x1200
Samsung Syncmaster 245T 24" LCD, 1920x1200, DVI
BENQ FP241W 24" LCD 16ms 1920x1200
This seems to be all that's available in this country.
Additional question: my 17" TN panel doesn't seem to suffer any very noticable viewing angle issues, is the effect more pronounced on a 24" monitor, or am I just not a fussy person?
Originally posted by: xtknight
(I did see your previous post BTW, just have been slow lately on responses.)
The LP2465 is the easiest choice (good performance and actually good price). Probably same lag as 2408WFP though. And the 2408WFP is wide gamut so it may be a better choice for gaming.
The BenQ FP241W has less lag, it seems, but it is a lot more money. I am pretty sure you could get by with the HP just fine, if that helps. The BenQ is known to have a blackout problem with certain video cards (although it seems workaround solutions for this are available).
A 24" TN is definitely worse than a 17" TN. Overall a 24" VA might actually be worse viewing angle wise because of the gamma shift, but it's not that big of a deal. You notice it only a lot on dark colors. If you do play a lot of dark games though, it may become frustrating. Not that there's anything you can do about it, except put down more money for a 24" IPS (LCD2490WUXi or HZ24W if that's even available).
Originally posted by: NZAmoeba
Originally posted by: xtknight
(I did see your previous post BTW, just have been slow lately on responses.)
The LP2465 is the easiest choice (good performance and actually good price). Probably same lag as 2408WFP though. And the 2408WFP is wide gamut so it may be a better choice for gaming.
The BenQ FP241W has less lag, it seems, but it is a lot more money. I am pretty sure you could get by with the HP just fine, if that helps. The BenQ is known to have a blackout problem with certain video cards (although it seems workaround solutions for this are available).
A 24" TN is definitely worse than a 17" TN. Overall a 24" VA might actually be worse viewing angle wise because of the gamma shift, but it's not that big of a deal. You notice it only a lot on dark colors. If you do play a lot of dark games though, it may become frustrating. Not that there's anything you can do about it, except put down more money for a 24" IPS (LCD2490WUXi or HZ24W if that's even available).
Looks like I'm going to have to find a store that's got both a VA and TN panel side by side so I can get a comparison going. It really sucks that you have to choose between good colour and good speed with no real middle ground. Any new technologies on the horizon?
Otherwise, thanks for your help anyway. I don't know why you chose to maintain such a massive thread where you probably answer the same questions every 5 pages, but I think it should count towards community service hours for doing it!
Originally posted by: KLC
I've been visiting this thread for a few weeks. I've built a new system and am currently using my old Dell 1905FP. It's a great monitor but we want a little more real estate and will give the old computer and monitor to the kids for school and play.
I will be doing office type work, web browsing, photoshop digital photo work and video editing, no games.
I'm very interested in the HP LP2065 or the HP LP2465. Right now they have a $50 and $75 rebate respectively. You can get the 2065 for $300 after MIR and the 2465 for $545 after MIR.
I have one question about these monitors that I haven't been able to answer. I posted it as a separate topic yesterday but I got no response and few reads. So I'm hoping that xtknight or someone else more knowledgeable than me can provide an answer.
For both monitors there are two model numbers. The 20" monitor model #'s are EF227A4 and EF227A8. The 24" monitor model #'s are EF224A4 and EF224A8.
In both cases it is the A8 model that is rebated. And in both cases the A4 model is significantly more expensive online, from $100-$200 more.
I have searched the HP website and googled the model #'s but I can't find out what the difference is between them. Why is the A4 so much more expensive? What is better about it?