[Retired] The LCD Thread

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: kalrith
I have a few questions about LCDs. I'm currently looking at either the Doublesight DS-263N or a 32" 1080P TV like the Sharp LC32D64U. The monitor would pull double duty as a PC monitor (gaming and general use) and a TV, which would probably work out to 70% PC usage and 30% TV usage. I would plug in my DirecTV HR-21 HD-DVR, so a tuner is unnecessary.

Would an HDMI-to-DVI adapter like this allow me to connect my DVR to the Doublesight? I would take care of audio separately.

Probably, yes, but my DVR actually has a "DVI" and "HDMI" mode for the HDMI connection. Only the "DVI" mode worked with the DVI->HDMI adapter.

You may want to check HardForum about compatibility with resolutions and scaling as well, on the DoubleSight.

Also, does anyone have inputs, thoughts, or opinions about the decision between the 25.5" 16:10 monitor and the 32" 16:9 TV? The cons for the TV are the loss of the 120 vertical pixels and the inability to play 4:3 games at 1600x1200 resolution. The plusses for the TV are the larger screen of the 32" (49.2% larger) and the much larger 16:9 TV picture (66.5% larger). I will be roughly 2 feet away from the screen for computer usage.

The main cons of the TV is probably that it'll be a lower quality MVA panel. I would choose the DoubleSight in your situation even though it's a little smaller and may not be quite as bright. The DS should be good for gaming while I bet the MVA Sharps have at least 2 frames of input lag.

Edit: Regardless of which one I get, I'll be using my 20.1" 4:3 monitor next to it as a second monitor. My #1 priority with the new monitor is PC gaming. I mainly play Quake 4, COD4, and Warcraft 3 right now. I plan to play CIV 4 and Titan Quest in the near future.

Well for PC gaming, the DS will very likely win.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: YabbyU
Ok...so the LG L227WTG is #1 gaming monitor.....How does the LG 2252TQ stack up against it. I did a side by side comparison from LG's site and only differences I could see were the 227 had some color gamut domination thing and 16.7 mil colors to 16.2 million in the 2252.

The 2252 is $80.00 less at bb right now....how does it stack up to the L227? I dig the zero input lag and 2ms response that both monitors have.

Thanks

Sorry, I simply don't know about the L2252TQ. There have been no reviews yet.

Originally posted by: Cheex
Thank you xtknight.


I have another question...
The Samsung 2493HM specs list it as having a response time of 5ms (BTW)...
Does that equate to 2ms (GTG) ??

Not usually. Usually GTG indicates overdrive and most 5 ms (bwb) LCDs do not use any form of overdrive. Additionally, the 5 ms LCDs can reach 20 ms while 2 ms LCDs are typically under 10 ms at all times with overdrive. 5 ms (GTG) would be roughly equal to 2 ms (GTG), and it would use overdrive as well.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: colorblind
Just found this on Newegg.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16824236033

Does anyone know of any reviews or what type of panel it is? Thanks.

It's a TN but I have no idea about it other than that.

My general policy is AVOID new models and stick with ones in the OP, until new models get good reviews. This is only the most logical route. There are few new models that best "old" standbys.

Originally posted by: SZGY

Originally posted by: 10e
Is it possible your web browser is set to do "smart dithering" and it's affecting web page photos?

Just a thought. I haven't heard of anyone on the Hard Forum talking about their 2408WFPs having this issue. Maybe you have a defective model?

Regards,

10e

OK, here's the deal. I managed to capture the effect with my digital camera. It didn't turn out to be that good but the effect is clearly visible.

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/6690/frckp1.jpg

The image I photographed:
http://www.geocities.com/iceco...img/gray-gradients.tif

SZGY

edit: I also tried something weird. I looked thru a rotating fan and by varying the speed I could make the pattern stand still (it's called strobe effect).

Sorry, I can't really tell what you took a picture of. Is that the dither pattern or just the array of pixels on the screen distorted by the camera lens? Do you see dithering here?

http://lcdresource.com/blacktest.htm

 

[imported_lucky13]

I purchased a Viewsonic VX2435wm about a month ago. Earlier this week when I was using it to play Final Fantasy XII on my PS2 the entire screen went black for a short moment - a second or two, and then the screen returned to normal. I thought, okay that was wierd maybe the game was loading or something from my PS2 and played on. A few days later I was web browsing on a forum and the same thing happened. I wasn't doing anything very intensive to tax my computer. Screen went black for a second or two and went back on. Again I thought okay wierd. Then it happened again a few hours later that night. Now I'm starting to think there's a problem.

Is this a totally normal flaw that HD LCD screens experience? Is there something I should be concerned about? Is this a sign that the unit is defective and should be returned before it goes bad? Is my monitor perhaps getting not enough airflow and is overheating? I am not very experienced with monitors and I'm trying to find out what is happening or what is causing this and what the appropriate action to remedy this would be.

At first I thought maybe it was my component cables I'm using with my PS2. But if it is also happening through my D-sub to my computer it can't be just the cables right?

Is this something that could be described as "signal loss?" I'm not sure?

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: RayvinAzn
My Viewsonic VX922 bit the dust recently - some sort of power issue I believe, where the panel wouldn't display images and the power LED would blink on and off. Anyway, I've learned a lot about monitors since then, and I'm looking to go high-quality this time around. Viewsonic is sending me a replacement, but I'll probably sell it off or keep it around as a backup unit.

I've got my sights set on the golden child - the Doublesight DS-263N. I'm fine with the price (overjoyed really), but the one thing I am concerned about is gaming. My X1900XT(X) 256MB holds up just fine at 12x10 in every game I play (mostly Sins of a Solar Empire, GTR2, and the occasional bout with The Witcher and Oblivion, and as sort of an aside, my wife enjoys a good bit of Titan Quest), but I'm reasonably sure 19x12 is going to kill my poor card as far as gaming goes. I'll probably be upgrading this summer, but I don't really want to keep up with all the graphics upgrade bollocks that comes along with a 19x12 monitor.

So to anyone that owns (or has used) this monitor, how does it fare at a non-native resolution (say, 16x10)? Is the image noticeably blurred, or it is acceptable for games? I'm really excited to own my first truly great monitor, but I don't honestly feel the need to have to own every great graphics card from now until I quit gaming just to keep up with the resolution of that unit. $200-$300 every ~2 years is fine, but $300-$500 once per year is going to get old, fast.

Oh I don't think you'll need to spend *that* much on graphics cards if you can deal with slightly lower graphics and not play Crysis.

My 7800GT does decent on many 1920x1200 games even today, except Crysis which runs like crap. Oh well, it runs like crap at 1280x1024 too. But BF2 at 1920x1200 has been great with the 7800GT. With the better cards out there today, you should have more luck. Gaming with scaling on any LCD isn't too much fun; it is much preferable to simply lower gfx or turn off AA.

I tried scaling with Crysis in various modes and I did not like the look at all even on my 26" NEC which has a very good scaler.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: CrabJuice
Btw. A list of panel-partners would be interesting. Is there one somewhere?

Well I can list some trends for you.

Apple-mostly LG Philips LCD IPS panels.
BenQ-tends to use AUO almost exclusively, and has resorted to CMO in some cases.
Acer-almost always AUO, I believe this company is related to BenQ.
Samsung-almost always Samsung panels, but some models (226BW) have had panels from CMO,CPT,and AUO also!
LG-many LG Philips and CMO panels, also uses some CPT panels
NEC-almost exclusively Samsung and LG Philips panels. Some medical displays made by NEC themselves.
Hanns.G - all Hannstar panels.
Dell - many LG Philips and Samsung panels (especially bigger ones), but can use AUO and CMO as well
HP - LG Philips, AUO, Samsung, CMO, almost anything
ViewSonic - lots of CMOs, occasionally a Samsung or AUO
Gateway - don't really know, but they have definitely used some Samsungs
Planar/DoubleSight - Mostly Samsung, LG Philips
ChiMei - CMO brand.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: lucky13
I purchased a Viewsonic VX2435wm about a month ago. Earlier this week when I was using it to play Final Fantasy XII on my PS2 the entire screen went black for a short moment - a second or two, and then the screen returned to normal. I thought, okay that was wierd maybe the game was loading or something from my PS2 and played on. A few days later I was web browsing on a forum and the same thing happened. I wasn't doing anything very intensive to tax my computer. Screen went black for a second or two and went back on. Again I thought okay wierd. Then it happened again a few hours later that night. Now I'm starting to think there's a problem.

Is this a totally normal flaw that HD LCD screens experience? Is there something I should be concerned about? Is this a sign that the unit is defective and should be returned before it goes bad? Is my monitor perhaps getting not enough airflow and is overheating? I am not very experienced with monitors and I'm trying to find out what is happening or what is causing this and what the appropriate action to remedy this would be.

It's probably a loose connection inside the monitor, which means your best route of action would be to get in contact with your retailer or ViewSonic for a replacement. It might also be a problem with the power transformer.

At first I thought maybe it was my component cables I'm using with my PS2. But if it is also happening through my D-sub to my computer it can't be just the cables right?

Is this something that could be described as "signal loss?" I'm not sure?

You're right, if it's happening on both, it's something inside the monitor. Yup, this is a loss of signal, if it is flashing that it sees a new signal when this happens. However, if the backlight is just shutting off and you don't see any extra messages appearing about a nwe signal, then it's much more likely to be an inverter problem.

 

[imported_lucky13]

I have not seen the messages from my OSD (text with blue background) appearing about a new signal. Its just goes black for a second or two then comes back on.

If this is something that I could deal with as a minor annoyance, should I be worried about this monitor dying on me because of this? Or should it run fine for a normal 'lifespan' of a lcd monitor.

Just curious, is this a commom problem with brand new LCD's in the industry or did I just get a bad monitor?

FYI this was ordered from newegg. I will have to check my warranty, it might already be past 30 days. Otherwise I think viewsonic provides a 1 year parts/labor limited warranty.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: lucky13
I have not seen the messages from my OSD (text with blue background) appearing about a new signal. Its just goes black for a second or two then comes back on.

If this is something that I could deal with as a minor annoyance, should I be worried about this monitor dying on me because of this? Or should it run fine for a normal 'lifespan' of a lcd monitor.

Just curious, is this a commom problem with brand new LCD's in the industry or did I just get a bad monitor?

FYI this was ordered from newegg. I will have to check my warranty, it might already be past 30 days. Otherwise I think viewsonic provides a 1 year parts/labor limited warranty.

You should definitely try and exchange this. It is not a common problem that I know of. I don't really know what implications it could have on the lifetime but I can't assume it would be good.

 

[cptmgt]

I've read your recommendations for web photoediting for a 4:3 LCD monitor. Only 2 are in the size I need: the 21.3" NEC MultiSync LCD2190UXp ($850) and the 20.1" HP LP2065 ($295).

The reviews were very brief and didn't make clear the relative merits of the two. Considering the enormous price difference, is there any reason to get the NEC and has anyone had experience with either of these two?
I do about 40 hours/week of editing studio pictures in Photoshop for the web.

Thanks, Derek

This should be in the LCD thread, there's really no reason to have a separate thread. Hence it has been moved

-ViRGE

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: cptmgt
I've read your recommendations for web photoediting for a 4:3 LCD monitor. Only 2 are in the size I need: the 21.3" NEC MultiSync LCD2190UXp ($850) and the 20.1" HP LP2065 ($295).

The reviews were very brief and didn't make clear the relative merits of the two. Considering the enormous price difference, is there any reason to get the NEC and has anyone had experience with either of these two?
I do about 40 hours/week of editing studio pictures in Photoshop for the web.

Thanks, Derek

The LCD2190UXp is a pretty good choice as it's a 90 series and well-calibrated by default. With the LP2065, you don't know exactly what you get (MVA/IPS) and it may not be that-well calibrated by default. On the other hand, the LP2065 is a good amount cheaper and if you can get a colorimeter, I really doubt the PVA LCD2190UXp is worth it to you at a whopping $850 (considering you might get a better panel type w/ the LP2065). Therefore I would be considering the LP2065 (usually IPS) and a colorimeter. (Eye One Display 2 is my recommendation.)

Technically the LCD2190UXp would reveal slightly more details in the gray as it uses a PVA panel and has an adjustable LUT. I don't think that is worth THAT much more money, however; only if you demand the absolute best.

(The NEC has a bit more professional of an OSD also but that's not worth $500+ more either.)

 

[Sylar Powers]

Double Post. Sorry.

 

[pilafi]

Originally posted by: lucky13
I purchased a Viewsonic VX2435wm about a month ago. Earlier this week when I was using it to play Final Fantasy XII on my PS2 the entire screen went black for a short moment - a second or two, and then the screen returned to normal. I thought, okay that was wierd maybe the game was loading or something from my PS2 and played on. A few days later I was web browsing on a forum and the same thing happened. I wasn't doing anything very intensive to tax my computer. Screen went black for a second or two and went back on. Again I thought okay wierd. Then it happened again a few hours later that night. Now I'm starting to think there's a problem.

Is this a totally normal flaw that HD LCD screens experience?

I have the same monitor and I use the HDMI and component inputs. I've never had this happen to me. It must be a defective unit.

 

[Sylar Powers]

Hey xtknight,

I have read various posts from you on both the DoubleSight DS-263N and the NEC LCD2690WUXi. I have a few specific questions for you, and I am going to bring in the NEC LCD2490WUXi as well.

I posted here a few times, but let me refresh my situation for you. I'm a gamer on Mac/PC/PS3 platforms, a PC-Based Movie Buff (I am ripping everything to make a video jukebox), and Digital Fine Artist looking to go into 3D Animation. I am looking for that one monitor that covers it all, and I really don't want a separate TV. For gaming, I want to hook up my PS3 outputting at 720p/1080p, and boot camp my Mac Pro for PC games. I really don't want any noticeable input lag, and I want to keep the response time down as well. Plus I want the best picture for my movies, and of course I need a good display for my art. And build quality and looks is important to me. I like the look of the NEC much more, pictures of it grew on me, and I know the OSD, feature, and build quality is much better than the DoubleSight.

I use to be a hardcore gamer, but nowadays I play less, due to life's demands (wow, that's so sad for me to type). I was never a crazy pro, I just play the games that I buy, and move on. Though I have been getting into online FPS games more and more. Not sure if I ever realized input lag, but I know I died allot-perhaps input lag was a factor? Ether way, I still don't like the idea of any image delay.

Here are my questions:

1. While I see that you are in favor of the DoubleSight 26", I noted you reviewed and own the NEC 26". I suppose you could just regret buying the NEC 26", as you seem to indicate you wish it was faster-but do you prefer the NEC to the DoubleSight? I think the DoubleSight seems nice, and is a good price, but looks like it has cheap build quality. I like both NECs on paper personally, the features are awesome, and I am willing to pay for it if needed, but I am worried that I will notice the image delay enough to bother me. If you had to do it all over again, would you buy the NEC 26", or just buy the DoubleSight 26"?

2. Can I buy a separate metal stand that is more adjustable for the DoubleSight 26"? Any links for specific models that are upper end?

3. What exactly are the differences between the NEC LCD2690WUXi and NEC LCD2490WUXi? All things equal, I would just buy the 24" for a sharper pixel pitch, and slightly cheaper price. But I know that the 26" is regarded as having the better tech. I know the 26" has wide color gamut, and it has be suggested that's actually better for most apps today to NOT have that feature, but is that enough of a reason to go with the 24"? For movies/games/art, which of these two NECs would you buy? That's assuming you did not have one. I like nice things, and take my gaming seriously, but I will never game at a FPS pro gamer level or anything, so perhaps I am overly concerned about this image lag issue.

4. Note that although I don't currently make a living with art, I of course hope to someday.

5. Thanks!

 

[DaveLessnau]

Originally posted by: Sylar Powers

2. Can I buy a separate metal stand that is more adjustable for the DoubleSight 26"? Any links for specific models that are upper end?

You could always go with an Ergotron arm:

http://www.amazon.com/Ergotron...7KW/ref=cm_cr-mr-title

I've got one holding up my dinky 18.1" LCD and love it. The Ergotron site has a page for monitor compatibility, but that DoubleSight model isn't listed. The NEC LCD2690WUXi is in there, though, and it's listed as compatible:

http://www.ergotron.com/Suppor...lID/15408/Default.aspx

I assume the DoubleSight is the same. If you were to buy such an arm, I'd email them and ask them.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: Sylar Powers
Hey xtknight,

I have read various posts from you on both the DoubleSight DS-263N and the NEC LCD2690WUXi. I have a few specific questions for you, and I am going to bring in the NEC LCD2490WUXi as well.

I posted here a few times, but let me refresh my situation for you. I'm a gamer on Mac/PC/PS3 platforms, a PC-Based Movie Buff (I am ripping everything to make a video jukebox), and Digital Fine Artist looking to go into 3D Animation. I am looking for that one monitor that covers it all, and I really don't want a separate TV. For gaming, I want to hook up my PS3 outputting at 720p/1080p, and boot camp my Mac Pro for PC games. I really don't want any noticeable input lag, and I want to keep the response time down as well. Plus I want the best picture for my movies, and of course I need a good display for my art. And build quality and looks is important to me. I like the look of the NEC much more, pictures of it grew on me, and I know the OSD, feature, and build quality is much better than the DoubleSight.

If you want 1080i you can forget the LCD26 (and LCD24 AFAIK), but it does input 1080p fine.

I use to be a hardcore gamer, but nowadays I play less, due to life's demands (wow, that's so sad for me to type). I was never a crazy pro, I just play the games that I buy, and move on. Though I have been getting into online FPS games more and more. Not sure if I ever realized input lag, but I know I died allot-perhaps input lag was a factor? Ether way, I still don't like the idea of any image delay.

Here are my questions:

1. While I see that you are in favor of the DoubleSight 26", I noted you reviewed and own the NEC 26". I suppose you could just regret buying the NEC 26", as you seem to indicate you wish it was faster-but do you prefer the NEC to the DoubleSight? I think the DoubleSight seems nice, and is a good price, but looks like it has cheap build quality. I like both NECs on paper personally, the features are awesome, and I am willing to pay for it if needed, but I am worried that I will notice the image delay enough to bother me. If you had to do it all over again, would you buy the NEC 26", or just buy the DoubleSight 26"?

I'll be honest. If the DoubleSight was available when I was making my decision, I probably would have passed up the NEC. It is $500 cheaper, offers the same panel w/ polarizer, and has less lag. The NEC's adjustable LUT is nice but I'm not sure if it's worth that much. The NEC's interface is great but the lack of 1080i support isn't too fun. If it was just the Planar w/o polarizer (~$900) that was available then I probably would have gotten the LCD26 anyway. But the DS's $700 price point is really attractive.

I really paid $1300 total for the LCD26, $1200 for the unit and $100 for calibration software to utilize the adjustable LUT. Thankfully I already had the colorimeter.

2. Can I buy a separate metal stand that is more adjustable for the DoubleSight 26"? Any links for specific models that are upper end?

I do not follow stands too much, but ErgoTron stands are good.

3. What exactly are the differences between the NEC LCD2690WUXi and NEC LCD2490WUXi? All things equal, I would just buy the 24" for a sharper pixel pitch, and slightly cheaper price. But I know that the 26" is regarded as having the better tech. I know the 26" has wide color gamut, and it has be suggested that's actually better for most apps today to NOT have that feature, but is that enough of a reason to go with the 24"? For movies/games/art, which of these two NECs would you buy? That's assuming you did not have one. I like nice things, and take my gaming seriously, but I will never game at a FPS pro gamer level or anything, so perhaps I am overly concerned about this image lag issue.

The LCD24 is a better choice for someone editing sRGB/HDTV images/photos/videos. It sounds like that's what you'll be doing. I got the LCD26 because I like messing around with stuff and I thought the extra gamut would be exciting to mess with. For serious work it's better to consider the LCD24 because it matches the standard gamut nearly perfectly already. With the LCD26 you'd need to know how to use color profiles and even then the rendering isn't as good.

It sounds like it may be between the LCD24 and DS-263N for you. The LCD24, I believe, is the perfect choice. It's not quite as expensive as the LCD26 but you still get the nice build quality/adjustable LUT. (Actually, it was $1000 a while ago and $1200 now so I'm not sure that it is that much cheaper, at least on Newegg.) The LCD24 has been reputed to have better QC than the LCD26. It'll prolly have 2 or 3 frames of input lag just like the LCD26, though.

I still feel like I can enjoy most games on this LCD with the slight input lag. The monitor is not the limiting factor, in my case.

 

[Rangoon]

Originally posted by: Sylar Powers

2. Can I buy a separate metal stand that is more adjustable for the DoubleSight 26"? Any links for specific models that are upper end?y make a living with art, I of course hope to someday.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16824994014

Ergotron widescreen LCD lift stand.

That one will work. Not sure if it's metal (assume so). Hope that helps.

 

[Rangoon]

xtknight, thanks for staying so involved with this thread.

Do you or does anyone know yet whether the new DS-263N stock will have the polarizer or not? DS says none have it to begin with, but the general consensus is that some do, some don't. Any sense about the next batch?

Thanks!

 

[Sylar Powers]

Thanks to everyone and xtknight for the replies. I too am confused about the DoubleSight 26" polarizer. Does it comes with one or not? Did it ever? Do I really need it? It is one of those forum issues I have to read 400 pages of alien text to translate.

I am leaning towards the DoubleSight and a Stand Upgrade. Thanks again to those who gave up some links for this. The price is very tempting, even with the stand upgrade, which I feel is mandatory.

On the NEC LCD2490, I have to research what 2-3 frames of image lag means to human reaction times, and just how bad or good that really is for gaming. I suppose I could always take a chance, and perhaps just get a separate TV or monitor for gaming if I find the lag bad. It should be good enough for movies and all my other Mac tasks. I am also thinking there is very little reason to still want the NEC LCD2690 due to the wide color gamut and pixel pitch issues alone.

If I deem the image lag of the NEC LCD2490 within acceptable range, I will get the NEC. If not, I will get the DoubleSight. Just how much faster is the DoubleSight 26" vs the NEC LCD2490?

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: Rangoon
xtknight, thanks for staying so involved with this thread.

Do you or does anyone know yet whether the new DS-263N stock will have the polarizer or not? DS says none have it to begin with, but the general consensus is that some do, some don't. Any sense about the next batch?

Thanks!

I'm not sure.

Originally posted by: Sylar Powers
Thanks to everyone and xtknight for the replies. I too am confused about the DoubleSight 26" polarizer. Does it comes with one or not? Did it ever? Do I really need it? It is one of those forum issues I have to read 400 pages of alien text to translate.

Some did, and some came without it. I thought the latest ones came with it.

It prevents white glow and yields a lower black level, but it is hardly necessary. The H-IPS panel is still the best you can get, without it.

I am leaning towards the DoubleSight and a Stand Upgrade. Thanks again to those who gave up some links for this. The price is very tempting, even with the stand upgrade which I feel is mandatory.

On the NEC LCD2490, I have to research what 2-3 frames means to human reaction times, and just how bad or good that really is for gaming. I am thinking there is very little reason to still want the NEC LCD2690 due to the wide color gamut issue and pixel pitch issue alone. If I deem the image lag within my tolorences, I will get the NEC. If not, I will get the DoubleSight.

The DS is wide gamut too, so that should be ruled out if you do sRGB editing.

 

[Sylar Powers]

dam! xtknight responded as I was editing! your fast.

 

[Sylar Powers]

xtknight has a good point on the NEC LCD2690/DoubleSight 26" models having wide color gamut, which is something I am guessing I really don't want for learning 3d animation, or for games/movies/web design/general use. I do use Adobe Photoshop/Illustrator for art as well, where the wide color gamut could be useful. It seems out of place to offer a wide color gamut on so many new models nowadays just for this one faction of users, due to the problems it causes everywhere else, but I guess it is useful for print tasks. This problem of which LCD to buy hurts my head. In the future, they may not even make non wide color gamut monitors anymore...

I will most likely buy the NEC LCD2490 Sectraview, due to the wide color gamut issue on the DoubleSight 26" and NEC LCD2690. The NEC LCD2490 should be great for everything including movies, but games might require a separate display (if image lag affects gaming). Seems like a worthy path to follow. I can live with two screens if that's the way to go.

The NEC2490 has fast enough image lag for movies right? If so, I will just pick up a separate fast TN panel for gaming, and be done with it.

 

[Sylar Powers]

xtknight, see my post above if you already read it, as I have reedited.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: Sylar Powers
xtknight has a good point on the NEC LCD2690/DoubleSight 26" models having wide color gamut, which is something I am guessing I really don't want for learning 3d animation, or for games/movies/web design/general use. I do use Adobe Photoshop/Illustrator for art as well, where the wide color gamut could be useful. It seems out of place to offer a wide color gamut on so many new models nowadays just for this one faction of users, due to the problems it causes everywhere else, but I guess it is useful for print tasks. This problem of which LCD to buy hurts my head. In the future, they may not even make non wide color gamut monitors anymore...

I will most likely buy the NEC LCD2490 Sectraview, due to the wide color gamut issue on the DoubleSight 26" and NEC LCD2690. The NEC LCD2490 should be great for everything including movies, but games might require a separate display (if image lag affects gaming). Seems like a worthy path to follow. I can live with two screens if that's the way to go.

The NEC2490 is fast enough image lag for movies right? If so, I will just pick up a separate fast TN panel for gaming, and be done with it.

Yes it should be fine with movies. A separate faster TN may be a good idea.

 

[Sylar Powers]

Thanks so much everyone, especially xtknight.

All the posts here helped me a great deal.