[Retired] The LCD Thread

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: dawgies

Originally posted by: Afrd2shtstrngerS

First of all thank you xtknight; you built a very informative thread here. After skimming this thread, I have couple of questions and I am all open to your suggestions.

I have to echo this comment as well as that of other posters. You've done a remarkable job of creating an informative thread. I've spent quite a bit of time trying to read through as many posts as possible.

Thanks, I have to say most of the time I really enjoy answering questions as well.

I currently have a Dell Ultrasharp 1905FP with the Samsung panel. No dead pixels, no banding, nice color....good monitor. The only time I'm aware of issues is when I order prints of photos and they look somewhat different than what I'm seeing on my monitor. I do not game. Most important is text quality/no eye strain. I'm just getting into photography and had read that IPS panels are better for digital editing. I'd like a larger landscape, but don't want to change if I'm not significantly improving over the quality I have now. Is calibration as important on VA panels as IPS?

It's usually more important on VA panels because IPS panels tend to come better calibrated from the factory. That's totally a 'tendency' thing and nothing to do with the actual alignment of the crystals (the "VA/IPS" mode).

Am considering:
1) Doublesight DS-263N or 263W
2) HP LP2465
3) Doublesight DS-243W

I'd appreciate input on these options. Thanks!

You are doing print matching, so I would look for a wide gamut monitor. Only the first DS-263N and DS-265W will satisfy this. That's also the only monitor that satisfies being an IPS panel. So I think your choice is made here.

You could consider getting a colorimeter, but the DoubleSight comes pretty good default too. The colorimeter might make details a little more visible or something already too conspicuous a little less visible, but it's not going to make a world of difference. Assuming you are already using a decent white point (6500K, probably not far off from factory), the calibration will not really help you match prints. The wide gamut on the other hand will, and you will want to make sure you are not in the monitor's sRGB mode for doing that.

I would recommend the IPS panel in this case even if you are doing photo editing because you can still use the ICM provided on the CD to allow you to edit in the sRGB space. (In no circumstances do you want to select 'sRGB' from the monitor's menu, however, because the monitor's emulation is not as sophisticated as the software's).

 

[dawgies]

Originally posted by: xtknight

Originally posted by: dawgies

I currently have a Dell Ultrasharp 1905FP with the Samsung panel. No dead pixels, no banding, nice color....good monitor. The only time I'm aware of issues is when I order prints of photos and they look somewhat different than what I'm seeing on my monitor. I do not game. Most important is text quality/no eye strain. I'm just getting into photography and had read that IPS panels are better for digital editing. I'd like a larger landscape, but don't want to change if I'm not significantly improving over the quality I have now. Is calibration as important on VA panels as IPS?

It's usually more important on VA panels because IPS panels tend to come better calibrated from the factory. That's totally a 'tendency' thing and nothing to do with the actual alignment of the crystals (the "VA/IPS" mode).

Am considering:
1) Doublesight DS-263N or 263W
2) HP LP2465
3) Doublesight DS-243W

I'd appreciate input on these options. Thanks!

You are doing print matching, so I would look for a wide gamut monitor. Only the first DS-263N and DS-265W will satisfy this. That's also the only monitor that satisfies being an IPS panel. So I think your choice is made here.

You could consider getting a colorimeter, but the DoubleSight comes pretty good default too. The colorimeter might make details a little more visible or something already too conspicuous a little less visible, but it's not going to make a world of difference. Assuming you are already using a decent white point (6500K, probably not far off from factory), the calibration will not really help you match prints. The wide gamut on the other hand will, and you will want to make sure you are not in the monitor's sRGB mode for doing that.

I would recommend the IPS panel in this case even if you are doing photo editing because you can still use the ICM provided on the CD to allow you to edit in the sRGB space. (In no circumstances do you want to select 'sRGB' from the monitor's menu, however, because the monitor's emulation is not as sophisticated as the software's).

The prints are usually on target with color hues, but tend to be a bit oversaturated and darker in the prints than what I see on my monitor.

I knew the 263 models were IPS and the other two VA. You answered my unasked question...basically for my photo prints to match my monitor, I need IPS. I was wondering if calibrating a VA panel would fix my problem, but probably not.

You also addressed the issue of whether I would need to invest in a colorimeter. Thanks for your help. I really do appreciate it, especially the part about not selecting sRGB from the monitor menu. In all the reading I've done (I'm on a major learning curve), I had not seen that mentioned.

So now I need to decide whether I want to buy a 263n from the Doublesight site or wait for the 263w to come out.

Thank you very much.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: dawgies
The prints are usually on target with color hues, but tend to be a bit oversaturated and darker in the prints than what I see on my monitor.

I knew the 263 models were IPS and the other two VA. You answered my unasked question...basically for my photo prints to match my monitor, I need IPS. I was wondering if calibrating a VA panel would fix my problem, but probably not.

You also addressed the issue of whether I would need to invest in a colorimeter. Thanks for your help. I really do appreciate it, especially the part about not selecting sRGB from the monitor menu. In all the reading I've done (I'm on a major learning curve), I had not seen that mentioned.

So now I need to decide whether I want to buy a 263n from the Doublesight site or wait for the 263w to come out.

Thank you very much.

I didn't know DoubleSight had an online store. I am not sure whether or not they have any DS-263Ns in stock; they don't say. Suppliers like Newegg haven't been receiving them.

There's not going to be much difference between the two 26" H-IPS panels. Given that DoubleSight doesn't actually make the panel (LG Philips LCD does), that's not feasible. What the new model will boast is more connection options and different aesthetics and/or ergonomics. The new model should be the same price or within a small percent of it, according to DoubleSight reps.

For info on the differences:
http://www.hardforum.com/showp...032681181&postcount=19

That may help you decide. I say if you don't care about component input or HDMI then just pull the trigger right now. You can always get devices to convert and switch between inputs later on should it be a necessity. HDMI/Component are useful if you want to hookup consoles, although in most cases DVI and HDMI are compatible with each other. With some cable boxes, they are not. I had to adjust mine to send a DVI signal through the HDMI port in order for it to work right. That of course means that the HDMI input on the newer model may not input everything correctly either. You never know, so don't count on compatibility with any particular device besides the PC before doing research. I have not had a good experience hooking up my devices even to expensive monitors, while they hooked up to a cheap 17" Samsung just fine.

When you start editing photos and matching, I can tell you that reading up on color management is critical. The whole idea is actually very complicated, convoluted, and half-way implemented, but it's nevertheless important to understand what goes on when it works like it should (what to do in Photoshop, Illustrator, Acrobat, etc.) For instance, when the target is the web, the sRGB color space must be used. (On my own estimation, wide gamut LCDs serve less than 3% of the user base on the web.) If you directly export something from a wide gamut LCD onto the web, it will look dull on standard monitors because the same colors are not as vibrant on them as they are on yours.

 

[dawgies]

Originally posted by: xtknight

Originally posted by: dawgies
The prints are usually on target with color hues, but tend to be a bit oversaturated and darker in the prints than what I see on my monitor.

I knew the 263 models were IPS and the other two VA. You answered my unasked question...basically for my photo prints to match my monitor, I need IPS. I was wondering if calibrating a VA panel would fix my problem, but probably not.

You also addressed the issue of whether I would need to invest in a colorimeter. Thanks for your help. I really do appreciate it, especially the part about not selecting sRGB from the monitor menu. In all the reading I've done (I'm on a major learning curve), I had not seen that mentioned.

So now I need to decide whether I want to buy a 263n from the Doublesight site or wait for the 263w to come out.

Thank you very much.

I didn't know DoubleSight had an online store. I am not sure whether or not they have any DS-263Ns in stock; they don't say. Suppliers like Newegg haven't been receiving them.

There's not going to be much difference between the two 26" H-IPS panels. Given that DoubleSight doesn't actually make the panel (LG Philips LCD does), that's not feasible. What the new model will boast is more connection options and different aesthetics and/or ergonomics. The new model should be the same price or within a small percent of it, according to DoubleSight reps.

For info on the differences:
http://www.hardforum.com/showp...032681181&postcount=19

That may help you decide. I say if you don't care about component input or HDMI then just pull the trigger right now. You can always get devices to convert and switch between inputs later on should it be a necessity. HDMI/Component are useful if you want to hookup consoles, although in most cases DVI and HDMI are compatible with each other. With some cable boxes, they are not. I had to adjust mine to send a DVI signal through the HDMI port in order for it to work right. That of course means that the HDMI input on the newer model may not input everything correctly either. You never know, so don't count on compatibility with any particular device besides the PC before doing research. I have not had a good experience hooking up my devices even to expensive monitors, while they hooked up to a cheap 17" Samsung just fine.

When you start editing photos and matching, I can tell you that reading up on color management is critical. The whole idea is actually very complicated, convoluted, and half-way implemented, but it's nevertheless important to understand what goes on when it works like it should (what to do in Photoshop, Illustrator, Acrobat, etc.) For instance, when the target is the web, the sRGB color space must be used. (On my own estimation, wide gamut LCDs serve less than 3% of the user base on the web.) If you directly export something from a wide gamut LCD onto the web, it will look dull on standard monitors because the same colors are not as vibrant on them as they are on yours.

Online purchase from Doublesight They also offer a refurbished one for $600.

I actually did most of my reading about the 263N (and found out about the upcoming 263W) on Hardforum. The newer model should also have a different base and the monitor will be adjustable. The jury is out as to whether the 263N had some models shipped with the A-W polarizer and whether the 263W will definitely have it.

On my photography list, one lister got the NEC 2690 and it took her quite a while to get it calibrated and it was not an easy process. I think inwardly I was hoping you'd say "oh get one of the newer VA panels and you'll be thrilled with the quality". I haven't even gotten into Photoshop yet, so my overall learning curve is HUGE.

I'm assuming you feel I won't be disappointed with the quality of the text with the Doublesight.

Again...thank you!

 

[oranges2]

I've been thinking of getting a third monitor, and really don't have much experience in the subject. My first LCD panel was a 2051w which I bought on the recommendation of this thread about a year ago. Since then I've added an E207WFP, and am now currently looking to expand my screen space.

The plan is to take two of the monitors and orient them vertically, with the third horizontal to the left of the two. Going to use Ergotron stands to do this (so looking at monitors with vesa mounting capability). http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16824994001

The current 22" models on newegg are looking nice (and at a good price), but I'm really not sure what I should be looking for. I've read through the OP, but can't really tell what they will actually look like since I don't have much experience comparing LCD panels.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...82&bop=And&Order=PRICE

There are just so many and so many different factors to consider. Any input on the matter is greatly appreciated

 

[Liran xD]

Originally posted by: xtknight

Originally posted by: Liran xD
Yup it's almost average of 2 frames, I play quite a lot, that's why i'm concerned about it. What is "OP" ?
Thanks.

OP means original post, the first page of the thread where I recommend panels and have technical info.

considering budget as well as availability - just the ASUS VW222u and samsung 2053bw

 

[Stormer]

Originally posted by: xtknight

Is there any reason you're using a Matrox card instead of NVIDIA/ATI? You may get better LCD compatibility with the latter (like scaling options), but I'm not sure about that. You did say the card had some type of antialiasing on it? Is that for fonts or for graphics?

I got it, mistakenly I now know, thinking the card would help with antialiasing for fonts, but you are correct, that feature clearly is for graphics. I'll take a hard look at the ATI cards. Short of Cleartype, there is no software that enhances text. But is there a card that does. I thought the Matrox was designed for 2D apps. Thanks again for your input.

 

[PBy]

To dawgies
I have sent in queries to this site previously (look above a few pages) and xtnight was excellent in providing useful information. In the end I bought a NEC2090 Spectraview and it is really very good; no dead pixels, no backlight bleed and apparent good uniformity. I also have a colorimeter so can recalibrate the monitor regularly through the Spectraview software (hardware calibration), so my introduction into Photoshop should be helped by a properly calibrated monitor. The next problem will be calibrating my camera, scanner and inkjet printer, so that ALL of these "speak the same language".

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: dawgies
Online purchase from Doublesight They also offer a refurbished one for $600.

I actually did most of my reading about the 263N (and found out about the upcoming 263W) on Hardforum. The newer model should also have a different base and the monitor will be adjustable. The jury is out as to whether the 263N had some models shipped with the A-W polarizer and whether the 263W will definitely have it.

On my photography list, one lister got the NEC 2690 and it took her quite a while to get it calibrated and it was not an easy process. I think inwardly I was hoping you'd say "oh get one of the newer VA panels and you'll be thrilled with the quality". I haven't even gotten into Photoshop yet, so my overall learning curve is HUGE.

I'm assuming you feel I won't be disappointed with the quality of the text with the Doublesight.

Again...thank you!

I do wish I could say 'get one of the VA panels and you'll surely be happy'. The main problem is off-axis viewing. If you put a VA, TN, and IPS next to each other, and looked at them head on, you would notice little difference. When you start using each display, show things you normally wouldn't see like big solid colors you start to notice the VA and TN panels have trouble. They also have a lot of trouble with keeping darker colors consistent with small changes in viewing angle. I do recommend you stay with IPS as long as that's feasible financially.

I actually like the LCD2690 SpectraView software and find it simpler than other calibration solutions because you can stick the colorimeter where it shows you on the screen, press a button, and everything is done. That is because the LCD26 supports full hardware calibration. Many other LCDs actually support automatic adjustment as well, although they can't control any more than you can (brightness, contrast, red, green, blue). The ColorEyes Display software supports this. I tried the demo with my other 20WMGX2 monitor and got good results.

The DoubleSight's text should be fine when you use a digital, DVI connection. The only time I would be afraid of text use is with some cheaper Dell LCDs that have no sharpness adjustment and a poor setting.

To my knowledge, all DS-263Ns shipped with the A-TW polarizer and the 265W will too. To be sure, you would have to spend $400+ more for the NEC LCD26 screen, which I don't believe is worth it. (The Planar PX2611W and DoubleSight DS-263N weren't around when I got the LCD26.)

 

[albovin]

For those interested in the new NEC 3090WQXi.
"Prad.de has been tested by the NEC 3090WQXi. Verdict: Failed!" - recent test at prad.de
discussed here.

 

[casedawg]

Originally posted by: xtknight

Originally posted by: casedawg
I read the op & the recommendations, but most of them are way outside my budget.

What do you recommend for something that fits these specs:
- Wide screen
- 20-22"
- $200-300 price range (willing to go a bit over $300 if it will get me a substantially better display)
- Used for (in order of importance):
--o 1. RAW photo developing/processing in Lightroom (primarily for the web)
--o 2. Movies & TV Shows (multiple people watching)
--o 2. Occasional competitive online gaming (FPS & RTS)
--o 3. Music production & DJing in Live
--o 4. Everything else (mostly web browsing & plain text editing)

Thank you!

You can't really expect a photo editing display for $200-300. Nonetheless, the HP LP2065 is as good as you're going to get and it cost just a little over that, after a rebate. It used to be a flat $300 so you may find it cheaper elsewhere. http://www.newegg.com/Product/...16824176053&Tpk=lp2065

Choices are limited and there's no widescreen display that matches those specs as well as the LP2065. The VA/IPS panel in the LP2065 really benefits the 'multiple people watching' part because of the viewing angle.

I suspected that might be the case. Thanks for the input.

What would you recommend if I took out photo editing from the list of uses? I can't afford to drop on a really nice LCD right now, but my old giant CRT really needs to go, so I'm going to get a decent cheap LCD right now, and get a second monitor for photo editing when I can afford it.

 

[iTnkD4iAm]

Hello everyone (=

Very nice and informative thread. I'm still reading through it. I'm looking for inputs on replacing my lcd monitor as it has began dying on me (Viewsonic VP2030b) Unfortunately, I'm limited on the brand that I can get (Samsung, Acer, Asus, LG and maybe BenQ) and most likely even more limited on the models that I can get. But before I list down the models that's readily available, I'm wondering about the models that would be good for stuff that I use the monitor for: image editing for the web, some photography and little printing (color accuracy appreciated), games (not really into fps but I do like Crysis and watching dvd's (blu-ray is still rare in my country) Since 4:3 monitors are becoming rare it looks like I'll be going for a 24" monitor (~1900x1200) I've been going through the list of readily available lcd's here and most of them are TN-based that's why I'm asking for other models in hopes that the shop can make a special order.

Advance thank you for the input

 

[alanj]

Originally posted by: xtknight

Originally posted by: alanj
f2) I see that Newegg just got the DoubleSight DS-305W in stock for $1086 shipped, over $300 cheaper than the Dell 3007WFP-HC I'd been occasionally glancing at. DoubleSight seems to have a good rep... is there any reason not to just go with it? Or is it sufficiently common for new models to have unanticipated problems that I'd be taking a big risk by being one of the first to buy, and should let other people be the guinea pigs? There's also the Samsung 305T, available from zipzoomfly for $1212 shipped...

I don't know. That's something you have to decide. It's not a giant risk; in fact, I'm almost certain you'll be happy with the monitor unless there is something seriously wrong with it, which I doubt. If you're going to be easily disappointed by problems like backlight bleeding or poor response time control, then you can wait for others to test the waters.

I don't think I'll be too picky, and they just dropped the price on the DoubleSight by another $50 (now under $1000 before shipping!), so I took the plunge. There's a little risk, but hell, I gamble for a living. I'll let you know what I think of it when it arrives.

I picked up a pair of the passively-cooled Gigabyte GeForce 8600 GT's for $60 each (before $20 rebate) after reading some good reviews, planning to drive the 30" off one card, and the two 24's off the other. They ship them overclocked to 600MHz, but I'll set them back to 540MHz, since I'm much more concerned with stability than performance.

Thanks for your help.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: oranges2
I've been thinking of getting a third monitor, and really don't have much experience in the subject. My first LCD panel was a 2051w which I bought on the recommendation of this thread about a year ago. Since then I've added an E207WFP, and am now currently looking to expand my screen space.

The plan is to take two of the monitors and orient them vertically, with the third horizontal to the left of the two. Going to use Ergotron stands to do this (so looking at monitors with vesa mounting capability). http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16824994001

The current 22" models on newegg are looking nice (and at a good price), but I'm really not sure what I should be looking for. I've read through the OP, but can't really tell what they will actually look like since I don't have much experience comparing LCD panels.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...82&bop=And&Order=PRICE

There are just so many and so many different factors to consider. Any input on the matter is greatly appreciated

Well if you have a local store where you can take look at the LG L227WT I would recommend that. It is a glossy panel and perfectly capable, like your AL2051W.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: Liran xD

Originally posted by: xtknight

Originally posted by: Liran xD
Yup it's almost average of 2 frames, I play quite a lot, that's why i'm concerned about it. What is "OP" ?
Thanks.

OP means original post, the first page of the thread where I recommend panels and have technical info.

considering budget as well as availability - just the ASUS VW222u and samsung 2053bw

The VW222u can't have much input lag, and it has a great response time. I recommend giving that one a try.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: Stormer

Originally posted by: xtknight

Is there any reason you're using a Matrox card instead of NVIDIA/ATI? You may get better LCD compatibility with the latter (like scaling options), but I'm not sure about that. You did say the card had some type of antialiasing on it? Is that for fonts or for graphics?

I got it, mistakenly I now know, thinking the card would help with antialiasing for fonts, but you are correct, that feature clearly is for graphics. I'll take a hard look at the ATI cards. Short of Cleartype, there is no software that enhances text. But is there a card that does. I thought the Matrox was designed for 2D apps. Thanks again for your input.

I don't know of any video cards that antialias fonts. Back when RAMDACs on regular cards were not as good, Matrox was better for 2D but its advantages now are limited. They are not quite as up on things as ATI and NVIDIA are. They may offer better multimonitor support in some circumstances, though.

 

[howlingblue]

Howdy, experts of LCDs.

I'm thinking of buying a new LCD to replace my Samsung Syncmaster 204BW.

I want to get a screen mostly for gaming, but also for multimedia. (I have a Blu-ray drive in my PC, and want to use the monitor for watching movies.)

I've looked at some of the monitors recommended in this thread as well as on Newegg, and this LCD, the LG W2452T-TF, is the one that has caught my eye.

It seems to have a very high contrast ratio for movies, and a low response time for gaming, but for the life of me, I can't seem to find any reviews.....

What do you folks think?

Thanks!

 

[shanmarsh]

Here is a great thread. I have reserved to see a few post of future. It is interesting thread.

I almost fell down my chair when I saw your info that the LG L226 WT and WTX use the Chi Mei panel. Where does this come from?


The L226WT and L226WTX are the 'real' models that use Chi Mei 22" (AFAIK) panels without RTC.

Thanks for including me?
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Tennessee Treatment Centers

 

[shanmarsh]

Here is nice thread.

I have reserved to see a few post of future. It is interesting thread.

I almost fell down my chair when I saw your info that the LG L226 WT and WTX use the Chi Mei panel. Where does this come from?


The L226WT and L226WTX are the 'real' models that use Chi Mei 22" (AFAIK) panels without RTC.

Thanks for including me?
____________________________________________________

Tennessee Treatment Centers

 

[shanmarsh]

I have reserved to see a few post of future. It is interesting thread.

I almost fell down my chair when I saw your info that the LG L226 WT and WTX use the Chi Mei panel. Where does this come from?


The L226WT and L226WTX are the 'real' models that use Chi Mei 22" (AFAIK) panels without RTC.

Thanks for including me?
___________________________________________

Tennessee Treatment Centers

 

[AiponGkooja]

Was looking at a BenQ G2400WD today, for 280 bucks, free shipping, Newegg promo, but I waited too long and now it's out of stock... Wish I had seen this thread this morning.

 

[alanj]

My DoubleSight DS-305W arrived this morning, and I'm using it in the middle of a three-screen setup now.

Initial impression: It's big, bright, beautiful, love it. I don't see any obvious issues like dead/hot pixels, backlight bleed, inconsistent brightness across the panel, etc. I'm not the most discerning when it comes to color accuracy or input lag or refresh speed, so don't ask me about those.

It is the most minimal monitor I have ever seen. It has exactly two inputs - power and DVI - and exactly three buttons - power and brightness up/down. There is no on-screen menu, there is no way to adjust colors. This might be an issue for some people, but not for me.

I'm happy.

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: howlingblue
LG W2452T-TF

It seems to have a very high contrast ratio

That 10,000:1 "contrast" ratio is likely a "dynamic" contrast ratio.

 

[Aggressor22]

Hej XTknight, havent forgot this great forum!
I ended up buying the Dell UltraSharp 3008WFP Superview. The 2709w did have problems with viewing from the sides and now ive took the plunge and gone for a 3008WFP after seeing it with my own eyes, i didnt need to ask anymore here since my breath stopped when i saw this monitor in action. Got 25% off from it via Dell online.

The colors are FAR better then the 2709w, i believe its wide gamut to and its not that over saturared when playing games.
The Brightness seems to be a bit less compared to the 2709w at FULL. But thats to bright anway, and i cant complain about this one, its very bright and i can actually feel the heat coming from the front of the panel (which didnt happen with the 2709w).
It doesnt matter from what angle i look, colors/image keeps being intact, there is some loss, but not that i can care about it.

The monitor casing is made of aluminium and the stand is glass-made. Its faster then the 2709w when playing games, less blur. I didnt notice input lag on the 2709w with BF2 and i dont either with the 3008wfp.
Afterall, i think my 2709w was defective, i believe it are allmost same LCD's but the 2709w had lighting trouble when moving in a game like Crysis which was annoying. Also its colors are better/nicer, but the dark areas are better on the 2709w i think, but the 3008wfp does this very correct too.
Okaj its big, but the lcd upscales the 720p games nicely. In the beginning, 2560x1600 looked blurry, that was thanks to my DVI cable that i used from another monitor. I used the thikker cable coming with the 3008wfp and voila 2560x1600!! This is the monitor of my dreams, big, good colors, no blurry view from angles, and fast. Add to that the extrior is out of this world.
I didnt calibrate anything, only have installed the drivers that came with it.

At factory settings, this lcd was MUCH too bright. It was standing on 75% brightness and 50% Contrast, have reduced the brightness to 27% and its still bright, but i like it.
Only complaint i could have it doesnt have Swedish/Dutch language from within the menu, but i can live with Englisch offcourse
Oh and i didnt find any dead pixels that lighted up another color, otherwise Dell would send a new one anyway they said on telephone.

Ok this was my mini-review, if people are intrested in this lcd and want to know something, ask here ill try to answer. Im NOT a monitor expert like xtknight but i can give my opinion of what i se on this lcd.

Greetz from 30 inches of view

PS: i posted this somewhere in the wrong forumt that was not updated anymore so copied it to here.

 

[Aggressor22]

Oh and one thing to note about this lcd, i can see there is more 'light' coming from the right-hand side of the LCD panel. On the left there is abit of a blue tinty but its not annyoing for me.
And i dont think this is a defect eitherway? anyway if it is, tell me, i can return it Dell has very good service.