[Retired] The LCD Thread

[Aggressor22]

An question to xtknight or anyone that knows, when i play games or playback video that moves, then my borders of where the screen ends seem to 'change'. Sometimes the edges are filled, sometimes the border is further in the screen. Below are pics taken with a digital cam to show what i mean. My old CRT doesnt do this.

As you can see, there is some space between the casing of the monitor and the image displayed, this changes when video/game is being played back. Sometimes the screen is wholly filled, sometimes, the 5mm black border can be seen on the left/right side.
The lower i look at the screen, the less big the black border is.

http://img.photobucket.com/alb...ellRipper/100_0992.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/alb...ellRipper/100_0987.jpg

Thx, wanna know the mystery, bad panels/crt or a common thing that occurs.
Btw, ive tried games, HD content, and normal video, all same common.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: Aggressor22
Hey thanks,

Ye about the LCD, i meaned the panel itself the IPS panel is moving, but its on all of those 3008wfp's. Ive been to a friend where i had seen it first time, and there it is same story.

About the figures, it looks like its the structure of the panel... its hard to explain, its more of the rasters around the pixels are darker on some places. Anyhow dont think its a defect so its ok.
And ive set to AdobeRGB now ye, colors are darker, i think its not that saturated anymore. Thx to digitalversus for sharing their profiles.

Btw, if u need anything to know about my screen, just ask i can look.

EDIT:
The native of the dell is Preset mode: Graphic and PC Mode, sRGB can be selected yes.
Another thing, which i think is cause of the backlight bleed, is that on the right side of the panel, white looks bit of yellow-ish. Just a lcd fact also?

Yeah sometimes this happens with LCD panels. I'm not really sure why.

Originally posted by: dowhopdedodo
Okay, so if I understand correctly the LCD24 does better with calibration and color fidelity in sRGB. Oddly, it was only $100 less than the LCD26 when I looked at pricing, maybe that explains why.

Yes, the LCD24 is better with sRGB.

I bought the eyeOne2 colorimeter, but could return it if the bundled version would work with my G520 as well as the NEC 2490. Then again, I suppose I can just rely on the G520 for color critical issues untill it sees it's last days and go with the Doublesight until then.

I've seen you suggest the Doublesight as a less expensive alternative before. You mention it has an IPS panel and so I assume it's on a par with the NEC as far as the panel and color capacity is concerned, at least potentially so. Can you explain (offer some technical assurance for lay people like me) why you think the Doublesight is a viable alternative, other than its lower price?

Finally, thanks again. These insights are way helpful.

The DoubleSight uses the same panel as the LCD26 does, and as it's an IPS panel it's almost guaranteed to be high performance. This has been confirmed by users of the DoubleSight. It's often the LCD module manufacturer who determines the gamma curve performance (even with the higher end photo editing LCDs), and since the DoubleSight uses the same LG Philips LCD panel as the LCD26 (at the least a very similar one), it won't be a problem. It also has lower input lag than the NEC.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: Ardan
Sorry, if you've all been discussing this but I haven't had time to search the topic because I am getting ready for work. My Samsung SyncMaster 215TW has been great, but I've been looking for a suitable replacement so I can use this for a different purpose, but I wanted a decent 22" monitor that wasn't a TN. So, of course, I've been looking for quite a while . No doubt you guys have at least mentioned this monitor somewhat: HP LP2275w monitor. I realize it is new, but it is priced at $399.00 on HP's website and I absolutely love that price. I know people said the 215TW had very bad input lag, but I play games occasionally too (racing games, TF2, adventure games like Dreamfall: The Longest Journey) and it never once bothered me, so I'm assuming that would be fine as well.

I doubt the HP will have more input lag than the 215TW. Probably less.

I know it is new, but has anyone heard any more about it? I tried to search around and see if I could find a review, but I've had no such luck thus far (I figured I wouldn't find one yet). Everyone I know personally has had great success with HP monitors, so I feel like its not really a gamble on my part, too. With the USB hub and DisplayPort support (for the future, of course), I feel this could be the monitor i'm looking for. I wonder what panel its using...would it most likely be a Samsung panel? I'm assuming so, because isn't it an S-PVA monitor like my current one is? I would be watching far more movies on the screen than games, so that would work out great. I figure I won't necessarily buy it asap (car needs new brake pads, among other things) but I just saw it on there and knew I just had to ask .

Well I'm not sure if it's big enough of an upgrade from a 21" (1680x1050 as well). You might want to look at 24" S-PVAs. However I have reasonable confidence the HP LP2275w will be a high quality LCD if 22" is the size you want.

It's very likely a Samsung panel like your current. Samsung is HP's main supplier for VA panels.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: BerlinCB
After reading all of your suggestions and doing my research I think I've decided to get a BenQ.



1.) Of these 3, which would you recommend for mostly gaming and general browsing and computer needs?

G2400WD
V2400W
FP241VW

Honestly, the FP241VW is a good idea. It's a VA panel with wider viewing angles and still good for gaming.

2.) Where would you suggest buying from? I think I suffer from a mild case of OCD and just know that dead pixels would drive me insane. Where could I buy from that I'd know for certain that I could eventually end up with a panel with no dead pixels?

Thanks!
Chris

You can try the BenQ store but Dell or Amazon don't carry the FP241VW. You're never going to be certain your panel has no dead pixels, and must know going into it that you shouldn't be shocked if you get at least two. Sometimes the reps will be nice and let you exchange for a refurb. The other stores don't have better dead pixel policies, rather just more liberal return policies.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: infinitesymphony
I asked about the Acer AL2216Wbd a while back. My grandparents' CRT just went out, so I decided to recommend the 2216 for them. It has arrived and we're now satisfied Acer customers. Thanks for the recommendation!

I don't think I'd ditch my NEC 90GX2-BK 19" TN for the 2216, but it's a great all-purpose monitor at a respectable price.

That's good to know.

Originally posted by: praesto
Which 20'' widescreens are currently considered to be the best for gaming?

Honestly there aren't any that I would blindly recommend to anyone (at least for gaming). All the 20"s I've seen have been around 20 ms or had panel lotteries (the Samsung 20xBW series). The 20" widescreen size has fallen by the wayside. Look at 22" panels if you can. They have a higher dot pitch too for easier visibility.

Originally posted by: Aggressor22
An question to xtknight or anyone that knows, when i play games or playback video that moves, then my borders of where the screen ends seem to 'change'. Sometimes the edges are filled, sometimes the border is further in the screen. Below are pics taken with a digital cam to show what i mean. My old CRT doesnt do this.

As you can see, there is some space between the casing of the monitor and the image displayed, this changes when video/game is being played back. Sometimes the screen is wholly filled, sometimes, the 5mm black border can be seen on the left/right side.
The lower i look at the screen, the less big the black border is.

http://img.photobucket.com/alb...ellRipper/100_0992.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/alb...ellRipper/100_0987.jpg

Thx, wanna know the mystery, bad panels/crt or a common thing that occurs.
Btw, ive tried games, HD content, and normal video, all same common.

You're not using the VGA connection (or analog DVI-A via a DVI-I cable) are you?

 

[Aggressor22]

I'm using DVI dual link, 2560x1600. But i think it was false alarm. Im not sure but, i used WMV HD content again, and i cannot really see it anymore. I sit with my nose on it the line, and when i keep looking on the line, it keeps steady (maybe a lil bit change but very hard to note).

 

[Alex C]

Random question: Do monitors usually come with the necessary cable(s) to hook them up to your PC? I've never bought a monitor separate before, I wouldn't even know what to get. Is a male to male DVI cable usually all it takes?

 

[praesto]

Originally posted by: xtknight


Honestly there aren't any that I would blindly recommend to anyone (at least for gaming). All the 20"s I've seen have been around 20 ms or had panel lotteries (the Samsung 20xBW series). The 20" widescreen size has fallen by the wayside. Look at 22" panels if you can. They have a higher dot pitch too for easier visibility.

What if I was guaranteed to get a 206bw with an AUO panel? From what I can gather, the worst panel seems to be the C ones.

 

[Aggressor22]

Originally posted by: Alex C
Random question: Do monitors usually come with the necessary cable(s) to hook them up to your PC? I've never bought a monitor separate before, I wouldn't even know what to get. Is a male to male DVI cable usually all it takes?

Yep, you mostly get the cables that are suited to use with your monitor. Mostly you get what the monitor needs, like ive got an DVI-D cable for my Dell cause it needed to get up to 2560x1600.
You also get the drivers with the monitor aswell everything else you need. I even got a cleaning cloth to clean my lcd

 

[matas]

Which is the biggest gaming monitor I can sit into 17" high monitor spot?

 

[qz33]

Originally posted by: xtknight

Originally posted by: qz33
It did look good though. xtknight on a related note do you know any details about this service? http://www.screentekinc.com/so...rite-lcd-screens.shtml

I would love to have a glossy 30 inch.

I think that having a monitor combined with a computer would drive me nuts because I would want to upgrade the monitor. If I used a video output then I would be stuck with another monitor I didn't want.

I haven't had any experience with the glossy service. I don't know of any 30" glossy panels, either, although there are some 24" glossies.

Does anyone know if there are any 26" glossy panels?

 

[Aggressor22]

Originally posted by: qz33

Originally posted by: xtknight

Originally posted by: qz33
It did look good though. xtknight on a related note do you know any details about this service? http://www.screentekinc.com/so...rite-lcd-screens.shtml

I would love to have a glossy 30 inch.

I think that having a monitor combined with a computer would drive me nuts because I would want to upgrade the monitor. If I used a video output then I would be stuck with another monitor I didn't want.

I haven't had any experience with the glossy service. I don't know of any 30" glossy panels, either, although there are some 24" glossies.

Does anyone know if there are any 26" glossy panels?

Dont think they common. I wouldnt want a glossy that big cause of the reflections it will surface.

 

[Aggressor22]

Anyone here knows why i sometimes when i boot my pc, just before the welcome screen, i see a white field in the leftside of the lcd, this goes away in 2 secs and i get my desktop.
Strange thing is, sometimes it does, but sometimes not. Anyway, my old crt doesnt do this with my current pc.

It doesnt botter me at all, but, aslong this lcd is ok.

Thx

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: Alex C
Random question: Do monitors usually come with the necessary cable(s) to hook them up to your PC? I've never bought a monitor separate before, I wouldn't even know what to get. Is a male to male DVI cable usually all it takes?

Usually, yes. Unless the monitor has an HDMI input, in which case you need an HDMI male->DVI male cable or an adapter. Usually monitors like that come with adapters.

Not all monitors come with DVI cables, but most come with some cable (VGA). My L227 only came with a VGA.

Originally posted by: praesto

Originally posted by: xtknight


Honestly there aren't any that I would blindly recommend to anyone (at least for gaming). All the 20"s I've seen have been around 20 ms or had panel lotteries (the Samsung 20xBW series). The 20" widescreen size has fallen by the wayside. Look at 22" panels if you can. They have a higher dot pitch too for easier visibility.

What if I was guaranteed to get a 206bw with an AUO panel? From what I can gather, the worst panel seems to be the C ones.

Then I say go for it. You can read the article at BeHardware for details about differences between the S/A/C panels.

Originally posted by: matas
Which is the biggest gaming monitor I can sit into 17" high monitor spot?

I'm not sure what you mean by this but unfortunately 17" LCDs are not very popular anymore. It would be much better to go for a 19" panel like some of the LG 2 ms panels, which are great for gaming. I can't recommend you a 17" as there have been no good reviews of them recently.

Originally posted by: qz33

Originally posted by: xtknight

Originally posted by: qz33
It did look good though. xtknight on a related note do you know any details about this service? http://www.screentekinc.com/so...rite-lcd-screens.shtml

I would love to have a glossy 30 inch.

I think that having a monitor combined with a computer would drive me nuts because I would want to upgrade the monitor. If I used a video output then I would be stuck with another monitor I didn't want.

I haven't had any experience with the glossy service. I don't know of any 30" glossy panels, either, although there are some 24" glossies.

Does anyone know if there are any 26" glossy panels?

I don't believe I've ever seen a 26" glossy panel but my memory may fail me.

Originally posted by: Aggressor22
Anyone here knows why i sometimes when i boot my pc, just before the welcome screen, i see a white field in the leftside of the lcd, this goes away in 2 secs and i get my desktop.
Strange thing is, sometimes it does, but sometimes not. Anyway, my old crt doesnt do this with my current pc.

It doesnt botter me at all, but, aslong this lcd is ok.

Thx

It could be a video card problem or monitor problem, but the only way to test that is to isolate it with other video cards that support dual link DVI and other 30" monitors.

 

[Aggressor22]

Originally posted by: xtknight

Originally posted by: Alex C
Random question: Do monitors usually come with the necessary cable(s) to hook them up to your PC? I've never bought a monitor separate before, I wouldn't even know what to get. Is a male to male DVI cable usually all it takes?

Usually, yes. Unless the monitor has an HDMI input, in which case you need an HDMI male->DVI male cable or an adapter. Usually monitors like that come with adapters.

Not all monitors come with DVI cables, but most come with some cable (VGA). My L227 only came with a VGA.

Originally posted by: praesto

Originally posted by: xtknight


Honestly there aren't any that I would blindly recommend to anyone (at least for gaming). All the 20"s I've seen have been around 20 ms or had panel lotteries (the Samsung 20xBW series). The 20" widescreen size has fallen by the wayside. Look at 22" panels if you can. They have a higher dot pitch too for easier visibility.

What if I was guaranteed to get a 206bw with an AUO panel? From what I can gather, the worst panel seems to be the C ones.

Then I say go for it. You can read the article at BeHardware for details about differences between the S/A/C panels.

Originally posted by: matas
Which is the biggest gaming monitor I can sit into 17" high monitor spot?

I'm not sure what you mean by this but unfortunately 17" LCDs are not very popular anymore. It would be much better to go for a 19" panel like some of the LG 2 ms panels, which are great for gaming. I can't recommend you a 17" as there have been no good reviews of them recently.

Originally posted by: qz33

Originally posted by: xtknight

Originally posted by: qz33
It did look good though. xtknight on a related note do you know any details about this service? http://www.screentekinc.com/so...rite-lcd-screens.shtml

I would love to have a glossy 30 inch.

I think that having a monitor combined with a computer would drive me nuts because I would want to upgrade the monitor. If I used a video output then I would be stuck with another monitor I didn't want.

I haven't had any experience with the glossy service. I don't know of any 30" glossy panels, either, although there are some 24" glossies.

Does anyone know if there are any 26" glossy panels?

I don't believe I've ever seen a 26" glossy panel but my memory may fail me.

Originally posted by: Aggressor22
Anyone here knows why i sometimes when i boot my pc, just before the welcome screen, i see a white field in the leftside of the lcd, this goes away in 2 secs and i get my desktop.
Strange thing is, sometimes it does, but sometimes not. Anyway, my old crt doesnt do this with my current pc.

It doesnt botter me at all, but, aslong this lcd is ok.

Thx

It could be a video card problem or monitor problem, but the only way to test that is to isolate it with other video cards that support dual link DVI and other 30" monitors.

It seems to do it when the monitor has been on/off. Ill try to make a pic.
What ive to note is, i allways see that DVI icon on top left of my screen after it booted to my desktop (also after the white field yesterday). Could it be that the monitor 'finds' the source and gives a white field sometimes?

Thx

Okej, have cought it on tape, ill put it in this post when ive it uploaded somewhere.

Here are the video's, ive tested with two pc's, the first link shows my new pc giving the white field just before my desktop appears.
The second youtube link shows my second pc with an DVI videocard, on this pc, the monitor gives the white fields at the bootup of my mainboard image. This seems to happen when i turned my monitor on for a couple of secs, turn it off and then on again and reboot my pc. Strange thing is on my old pc that it doesnt happen in the beginning.
Btw, when i hook up my pc to my old CRT 22' vision master pro, it doesnt happen.

Well, last time i go for an dell, 2300 euros for a new screen that is defect. NEC next time
Have seen the NEC Multisync 3090WQXi for 1900... wish i was gone with that. Now ive to explain Dell a very rare problem with the white thingy. Im afraid they wont send me a new one for this, and IF, ill get a crappy refurb probaly. For the info this is a A02 from Chech repulbic.
And XTknight, hope u have an idea of what it is, if it doesnt affect anything... ill have to deal with it. When i power off the monitor, and reboot and turn it on. It seems to not do it. But yea... its strange Thanks anyway for your help, this can be a warning too for people that are intending to buy an Dell.

Videos are large if you view them but the monitor is large too
oh and the noise, thats my pc, the 1st video is the new one which is allmost like if ur in a passenger jet taking off, might give a vacation feel though.

Video 1 with 9800GTX DVI:
http://www.youtube.com/v/jJG5WHGGBQQ

Video 2 with 6800 DVI:
http://www.youtube.com/v/8wGnozuPWcE

PIC from the video 2:
http://img.photobucket.com/alb...ellRipper/3008wfp2.jpg

EDIT again:
Ive thought, i could sell my Dell and buy the 2690 and ive alot of money left over. Or i could sell it and get the 3090 NEC, problem is that Prad doesnt like the 3090 as much as the 3008wfp which seems strange.

 

[RegJones]

Originally posted by: xtknight

Originally posted by: Ardan
Sorry, if you've all been discussing this but I haven't had time to search the topic because I am getting ready for work. My Samsung SyncMaster 215TW has been great, but I've been looking for a suitable replacement so I can use this for a different purpose, but I wanted a decent 22" monitor that wasn't a TN. So, of course, I've been looking for quite a while . No doubt you guys have at least mentioned this monitor somewhat: HP LP2275w monitor. I realize it is new, but it is priced at $399.00 on HP's website and I absolutely love that price. I know people said the 215TW had very bad input lag, but I play games occasionally too (racing games, TF2, adventure games like Dreamfall: The Longest Journey) and it never once bothered me, so I'm assuming that would be fine as well.

I doubt the HP will have more input lag than the 215TW. Probably less.

I know it is new, but has anyone heard any more about it? I tried to search around and see if I could find a review, but I've had no such luck thus far (I figured I wouldn't find one yet). Everyone I know personally has had great success with HP monitors, so I feel like its not really a gamble on my part, too. With the USB hub and DisplayPort support (for the future, of course), I feel this could be the monitor i'm looking for. I wonder what panel its using...would it most likely be a Samsung panel? I'm assuming so, because isn't it an S-PVA monitor like my current one is? I would be watching far more movies on the screen than games, so that would work out great. I figure I won't necessarily buy it asap (car needs new brake pads, among other things) but I just saw it on there and knew I just had to ask .

Well I'm not sure if it's big enough of an upgrade from a 21" (1680x1050 as well). You might want to look at 24" S-PVAs. However I have reasonable confidence the HP LP2275w will be a high quality LCD if 22" is the size you want.

It's very likely a Samsung panel like your current. Samsung is HP's main supplier for VA panels.

If your interested in the 2275w you'll probably want to consider the new S-IPS 24" HP LP2475w.

Here's the original press release:
http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/newsr...ess/2008/080811xa.html

HP Brings DreamColor Accuracy to Mobile Power Users
LOS ANGELES, Aug. 11, 2008

"...The HP LP 2275w 22-inch Widescreen LCD Monitor is available today and the HP LP2475w 24-inch Widescreen LCD Monitor is expected to be available in North America in September for estimated starting U.S. street prices of $459 to $649, respectively."

Note that while the 2275w seems to be PVA the 2475w seems to be S-IPS. If true that would make the 2475w at $649 one of the cheaper 24" S-IPS displays. I look forward to this thread's analysis. The 2475w is currently availabe in Europe and we are just seeing the initial reviews.

See more here:
http://forums.dpreview.com/for...=1004&message=28967370
and here for the 2275w
http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc...67-444767-3648453.html
and here for the 2475w,
http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc...0Monitor&lang=en&cc=uk

 

[semisonic9]

I just wish it was 26", or a cheaper panel.

I'm not sure I'm that wild about the new HP 2475w next to a DoubleSight 26" for $750. I believe they're both S-IPS, both good for gaming, wide color gamuts, etc, etc.

I guess we'll see how stuff looks when these panels start shipping to the US. If DS drops its prices back to the $680-720 ball-park, I'm not sure there's anything HP could do to tempt me away from one.

~S

 

[Aggressor22]

Another question XTknight, when looking at this page:
http://xtknight.50webs.com/lcd26/page9.htm

I see that the text has a greenish feel to it, some letters have green through them. Ive tried different settings with the preset modes, i also tried that with DigitalVersus's color profilem none did help.
Also, its somewhat better with sRGB color mode preset.
Btw, what is your personal advice of what preset mode to use on the Dell 3008WFP without any calibrated profiles for games/movies/desktop use?

Using Mircrosoft's ClearType tune didnt help.

 

[Universal Serial Bus]

Hello!

I was doing some shopping at the Egg for a 5:4 LCD monitor. The monitor will be used for both gaming and movies, and needs to be at least 19". I need to keep the price under 300 bucks, because that's all I can really afford right now.

The Samsung 943BX looks good and gets good reviews, but is it really for me? Also, the 943N and the 920BM look pretty decent and are cheaper, but are they as good? What do you guys think?

I'm not really stuck on Samsung, they just seem to get good reviews. Any other brands/suggestions would be much appreciated.

I've never bought an LCD before and I don't want to buy junk that I'm not gonna be happy with. I plan on using it for years, if I can.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: Aggressor22
Another question XTknight, when looking at this page:
http://xtknight.50webs.com/lcd26/page9.htm

I see that the text has a greenish feel to it, some letters have green through them. Ive tried different settings with the preset modes, i also tried that with DigitalVersus's color profilem none did help.
Also, its somewhat better with sRGB color mode preset.
Btw, what is your personal advice of what preset mode to use on the Dell 3008WFP without any calibrated profiles for games/movies/desktop use?

Using Mircrosoft's ClearType tune didnt help.

Aggressor, I've never used this LCD so you'll have to bear with me. Many of the problems you experienced I never have with my wide gamut LCDs.

However, I do think the white looks a little greenish on my LCD2690 as well (more so than my L227). I think it's worse the wider the gamut is, because wide gamut LCDs particularly excel in the green area. So you're going to have to use the sRGB mode or get used to the greenish white, which is probably the best idea, because sRGB presets on WG LCDs significantly hamper color quality.

My personal advice is to stick with native, non-sRGB modes and then adjust red/green/blue to fit your needs. You can somewhat counter the green tint by lowering the G (Green) level of intensity in the R/G/B controls. I hope that helps.

The text's green feel can be due to improper subpixel hinting (ClearType). You can disable that and see if it is remedied. Other than that, it might be a sort of text shadow artifact the LCD has, as many Dells are known to have (don't jump to that conclusion immediately). If it has a sharpness control, adjust that and try to adjust it to the point of "pass through" (no modification-blurring/sharpening done to the text).

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: Universal Serial Bus
Hello!

I was doing some shopping at the Egg for a 5:4 LCD monitor. The monitor will be used for both gaming and movies, and needs to be at least 19". I need to keep the price under 300 bucks, because that's all I can really afford right now.

The Samsung 943BX looks good and gets good reviews, but is it really for me? Also, the 943N and the 920BM look pretty decent and are cheaper, but are they as good? What do you guys think?

I'm not really stuck on Samsung, they just seem to get good reviews. Any other brands/suggestions would be much appreciated.

I've never bought an LCD before and I don't want to buy junk that I'm not gonna be happy with. I plan on using it for years, if I can.

I don't like the 943N as it doesn't have DVI. You don't really need it at that size but it might be limiting if you want to hook other stuff up. Plus, VGA quality really depends on the quality of your graphics card.

The 920BM I am just not sure about. No particular reason.

The 943BX is what I would choose. It looks more versatile and ergonomic than the other LCDs and it sports a DVI connection. Also the previous BX series were winners.

My favorite 19" however would have to be one of the LG Flatron 2ms response time series. They get consistently good all-around scores from X-Bit Labs, though model numbers in the US vary slightly. They don't have one on Newegg now but did a few days ago (probably out of stock). Make sure it's a Flatron 19" 2ms and not a 5ms (no overdrive).

Do keep in mind you can get a widescreen 22" for that price now (L226WTQ-BF or L227WTG-PF from Newegg highly recommended) and I think that's the best route. Of course if you want a 19" (or simply a 5:4/4:3 panel) I can't prevent you from getting one though. There are some 20" 4:3s out there like the G2000WD, I've just never used that model or similar 20" TNs like the Samsung 204B so can't vouch for them.

 

[xtknight]

RegJones: thanks for info about the new HPs, we'll have to see how they turn out in the US.

 

[Josh7289]

Wasn't there a replacement to the DoubleSight DS-263N? Why isn't that in the recommendations?

 

[Buck Armstrong]

Its not out yet AFAIK.

 

[Aggressor22]

Originally posted by: xtknight

Originally posted by: Aggressor22
Another question XTknight, when looking at this page:
http://xtknight.50webs.com/lcd26/page9.htm

I see that the text has a greenish feel to it, some letters have green through them. Ive tried different settings with the preset modes, i also tried that with DigitalVersus's color profilem none did help.
Also, its somewhat better with sRGB color mode preset.
Btw, what is your personal advice of what preset mode to use on the Dell 3008WFP without any calibrated profiles for games/movies/desktop use?

Using Mircrosoft's ClearType tune didnt help.

Aggressor, I've never used this LCD so you'll have to bear with me. Many of the problems you experienced I never have with my wide gamut LCDs.

However, I do think the white looks a little greenish on my LCD2690 as well (more so than my L227). I think it's worse the wider the gamut is, because wide gamut LCDs particularly excel in the green area. So you're going to have to use the sRGB mode or get used to the greenish white, which is probably the best idea, because sRGB presets on WG LCDs significantly hamper color quality.

My personal advice is to stick with native, non-sRGB modes and then adjust red/green/blue to fit your needs. You can somewhat counter the green tint by lowering the G (Green) level of intensity in the R/G/B controls. I hope that helps.

The text's green feel can be due to improper subpixel hinting (ClearType). You can disable that and see if it is remedied. Other than that, it might be a sort of text shadow artifact the LCD has, as many Dells are known to have (don't jump to that conclusion immediately). If it has a sharpness control, adjust that and try to adjust it to the point of "pass through" (no modification-blurring/sharpening done to the text).

Changing to sRGB mode indeed reduces the green halo effect around letters, but as you noted, sRGB is lifeless on this screen (due to wide gamut yes).

To re-ask, is this something to worry about or return the screen?
Btw, it also does when i click on "turn off pc'' or shut dow or restart with the 9800 pc.

Video 1 with 9800GTX DVI:
http://www.youtube.com/v/jJG5WHGGBQQ

Video 2 with 6800 DVI:
http://www.youtube.com/v/8wGnozuPWcE

PIC from the video 2:
http://img.photobucket.com/alb...ellRipper/3008wfp2.jpg