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darXoul

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NEC 2690WUXi mini review

Disclaimer: this is not a comprehensive review. Due to time constraints, I?m just sharing a few impressions, in a brief but fairly structured manner. If you want ?pro? user reviews, read xtknight?s review or one of the 3 user reviews on widescreen gaming forum. This mini review evaluates the LCD from a general user/gamer perspective.

Packaging

The box is enormous. It?s particularly wide (or ?thick?) since the monitor?s stand is not detached inside. In general, the NEC is well protected there. What surprised me a bit, was the lack of soft polishing/cleaning cloth inside, an item that?s commonly found in most LCD packages nowadays. Cables are solid, the manual as well.

Overall build quality, connectivity, ergonomics and OSD

Solid metal stand, a thick, massive back cabinet but with a slim bezel. Tilt, swivel, pivot, height adjustment. Only DVI-D, DVI-I and D-sub. No HDMI or component, etc. Connectivity is limited but the OSD is IMO great. Simple menu, advanced menu, tons of options including light sensor, backlight uniformity compensation and overdrive. It?s strictly my PC monitor so I don?t really mourn the lack of some connectors. No audible buzzing sound BTW, unless someone really touches the monitor?s back with an ear

Contrast, black level and backlight uniformity

Contrast is more than sufficient, better than on my previous LCD (TN panel). Blacks are better as well, maybe not much deeper but less prone to bleeding light and discoloration. No black crush effect makes me gladly accept the slightly inferior blacks in comparison to S-PVA. Uniform backlight when displaying black screens, even at night. The A-TW Polarizer makes black look good even from angles.

Colors and gradients

Awesome colors. After just brightness and contrast reduction to tolerable levels, colors are juicy and vibrant without being oversaturated. Sure, some reds or greens are very pronounced but I didn?t even feel the need to switch to sRGB mode ? it made colors look paler and a bit washed out. Photos and movies look great, with no reddish faces and the like. White is true ?alpine? white. Games look awesome ? not oversaturated but very vivid. Without calibration, colors may not be extremely accurate, but I don?t care. They do look quite natural, balanced and vibrant, and this is enough for me as a general, non-professional user. Grays and other gradient transitions are smooth, without even faint banding. The great thing is that unlike on some cheaper monitors, brightness and contrast settings really make it possible to achieve a tolerable luminance without losing darkest or brighest gradients.

Viewing angles

Oh my goodness, what a relief in comparison to my old TN. No yellowish hue and abrupt contrast loss horizontally. No crazy darkening when moving my head down slightly. In LotRO, I can still see stars at night when lowering my line of sight. Colors stay true, I?m no longer a slave of the perfect ?straight on? sitting position. Plus, when viewing the screen straight on, no more vertically shifting gradient on uniform surfaces. Once IPS, always IPS, I guess (no rhyme intended )

Text quality and scaling

Sharp text, adjustable from absurd blurriness to absurd sharpness A perfect setting is around the default 26.2%. Fonts are large thanks to 0.287 mm pixel pitch. Great readability and viewing comfort. Much better than on 24-inchers for prolonged text/spreadsheet use or even gaming where 2D elements tend to be small (maps, chat logs, icons, etc.). Scaling is great as well, image stays surprisingly sharp in lower resolutions. Scaling is also fully customizable, 1:1 pixel mapping works flawlessly, you can even specify whether the borders should be black or dark gray (adjustable).

Pixel response

Before gaming, I turned overdrive on in the advanced OSD. I switched to 2690WUXi from a 2 ms rocket, namely the 226BW. The monitor is better than I expected in terms of responsiveness. It doesn?t ghost, OD doesn?t produce artifacts, it?s just smooth sailing. It handles dark-dark transitions exceptionally well. Motion blur is more pronounced than on 2 ms TN, which is visible in some games (some racing or FPS games) but in others, I could barely tell the difference. Anyway, it?s not intrusive and it doesn?t hamper pure gaming pleasure. It?s also a bit amplified by the sheer size of the monitor. IMHO, all games are fully playable, including FPS.

Input lag

On paper, same as on the best 24? S-PVAs (around 2 frames on average). In practice, I definitely felt it more on PVA (NEC 2470WNX and Eizo S2431W, which I also tested). On the NEC, the lag is perceptible in some games and some situations, but it?s not anything that would spoil my gaming. On the desktop, it?s practically not there. In shooter games, it?s so faint it?s barely noticeable. Online play works OK, I didn?t feel like ?too late at the trigger? despite being a former Q3 CPMA hardcore gamer. I won?t claim the lag doesn?t exist but I really doubt anyone (maybe except for professional cyber athletes sticking with CRT or gaming on strictly zero-lag LCDs) would be bothered.

SUMMARY

One of my best PC-related purchases ever and worth every penny (and there are quite a lot of them to pay). Awesome size, image quality and really good responsiveness as well. I think I won?t even look at non-IPS screens anymore. This LCD should be my perfect bridge to new technologies like OLED, SED or whatever. I was a bit afraid of input lag, wide gamut issues and subpar panel speed, but the 2690WUXi literally crushed my fears. It?s a fantastic allround monitor that can be used for gaming. Sure, there IS room for improvement in some areas, but no perfect LCD exists, and having tested multiple monitors recently, this one seems like a really good decision
 

japinard

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First I'd like to say thanks for such a brilliant thread.

Based on the original OP and several recommendations I purchased a BenQ V2400W from Amazon. So far I'm pretty dsapppointed in it. About 70% of my time is spent heavy-duty gaming and the other 30% of my time is coding/Internet stuff. The problem with the BenQ is the display is very dull. I've tried calibrating it with different sites/software but can't seem to get in into a comfortable range that looks colorfully dynamic yet not blinding bright. Also, when I go into any mode except Normal/sRGB whites and light blue instead of white. So I'm looking at other options. I'm typing on an HP w2408h loaner and I love the glossy coating, but can't understand why it's not a good gamer monitor according to the main guide. I looked at the reference German site (Prad/de) and they seem to have the HP & LG displays as the top picks.

Would any of you mind helping me figure out what I should do? I only have 6 days to make a decision as my wife needs major surgery and I won't be able to play around with monitor stuff past that date (plus the return window on the Amazon LCD will close too). My budget was originally $400, but I'm starting to not care if I have to spend more to get a display I won't regret in a year. If it helps, here are some of the games I enjoy most on the PC (like most gamers I'm worried about input lag and ghosting, but I don't care about higher color gamut):

* Lock-On Modern Combat
* Silent Hunter IV
* Supreme Commander
* Gal Civ 2
 

LightningRider

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Originally posted by: fyleow
So I called HP and at first they said they would ship me out a replacement monitor. They called back saying their policy has changed and they will need to dispatch a technician to do it. Great. Guess I need to prepare for a big argument on why the monitor is bad. Hopefully the tech will be able to see the difference and then I'll need to evaluate the replacement monitor while he's still there.

Will see how this goes. Somehow I doubt my next monitor will be an HP.

Yea that's what I'm worried about in the back of my mind also but somehow I think it will be okay. I might just have the monitor ready to go when he gets here unplugged and all so that I can just slap the new one in. And if not and he does question if the monitor really needs replacing then I will show him next to my Samsung SM 245BW that does not have this issue and is hundreds of dollars cheaper. I will tell him that if I pay 700$ for a monitor I expect it to perform.

Also if the one he gives me has the same issue or another issue, I will demand another replacement until I have one with no defects.

Anyways I'm pretty sure there will be no problems. Let me know how your replacement process goes, mine's probably not coming for another week or two.
 

RegJones

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Another HP LP2475w review here:

http://prad.de/en/monitore/rev...review-hp-lp2475w.html


Here's the summary:

"For a 24-inch model with an S-IPS panel, the price of ? 550.00 is a downright bargain. The features and high-quality colour reproduction make the model an insider tip for graphics workers with a small budget. Even more demanding users who do not want to have to deal with the viewing angle dependencies of the widely used TN panel will take pleasure in this model.

Overall rating: VERY GOOD"

 

LightningRider

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Yea I think you're right it is a color contrast difference. But strangely enough I think mine is going away as time goes on. I've read people say that it goes away with extended usage.

I'll still take the replacement though just to see how things go with a different panel, but I do think the effect is lessening slowly, and I don't think I'm just 'getting used to it' either.

As for replacement, they said they would send someone to pick up the old one and drop off the new one. And yeah, the part is out of stock. Are you in Canada? I am and they said it might take 1-2 weeks to get it. But at least they keep me up to date on ETAs etc.
 

asleepy

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Originally posted by: xtknight
Originally posted by: asleepy
After much searching, this looks to be the resource I've been looking for.
I'm a commodities trader in need of an upgrade. I'm planning on buying an additional Dell workstation to reduce the load on my current setup(Dell WS380/2001FP x 2.)
I'd like to buy 2 displays, the bigger the better up to 30", to handle my work. In fast markets the demands on my system/screens should be the equivalent of max gaming without the 3-D I think, and I'm trying to speed things up at each critical point.
My main requirements in order of importance:
1. a)Fastest response to image input -- time between output from PC to image rendered viewable. I need to see the next change in market data asap.
b)Fastest response to my inputs, which is mouse(Razer) rolling & clicking. I need to be able to submit orders asap.
2. Size: Bigger is better, as long as size doesn't materially affect item #1 above. It's easier to have more info on a bigger screen than 8 screens that have a huge footprint and cause me to scan more left/right.
3. Reliability --- speaks for itself.
That's it. Color, outside inputs, movies, etc. aren't part of the equation here....just business. Cost is less a concern as it is a business expense.
I'm finding I need more "open" screen space in front of me than I have with the 2-20s. I could go up as high as 2-30" displays side by side in front of me with the other two displaying less critical info above or to the side.
And one last question: in your experience, are there any suitable (read: fast enough) 40" to 46" displays that I could place farther away from me? I'm assuming they'd run at lower resolution? I'd put less critical charts & price matrices on it, but it would still be updated tick-by-tick.
Thanks for your help.

NEC has some public displays that are around 40" and higher but they are quite expensive.

Some 1080p LCD TVs might suffice.

I recommend 2 Planar PX2611Ws or 2 Dell 3007WFP-HCs. The Planars would feel faster because they have a bigger dot pitch and would respond faster to input. The Dells will show more information per area, and are bigger.


Thank you for your good help, xtknight.

I got a nice discount on the 3007WFP-HC---will let you know how it turns out.
 

Zebo

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Originally posted by: darXoul
NEC 2690WUXi mini review

Disclaimer: this is not a comprehensive review. Due to time constraints, I?m just sharing a few impressions, in a brief but fairly structured manner. If you want ?pro? user reviews, read xtknight?s review or one of the 3 user reviews on widescreen gaming forum. This mini review evaluates the LCD from a general user/gamer perspective.

Packaging

The box is enormous. It?s particularly wide (or ?thick?) since the monitor?s stand is not detached inside. In general, the NEC is well protected there. What surprised me a bit, was the lack of soft polishing/cleaning cloth inside, an item that?s commonly found in most LCD packages nowadays. Cables are solid, the manual as well.

Overall build quality, connectivity, ergonomics and OSD

Solid metal stand, a thick, massive back cabinet but with a slim bezel. Tilt, swivel, pivot, height adjustment. Only DVI-D, DVI-I and D-sub. No HDMI or component, etc. Connectivity is limited but the OSD is IMO great. Simple menu, advanced menu, tons of options including light sensor, backlight uniformity compensation and overdrive. It?s strictly my PC monitor so I don?t really mourn the lack of some connectors. No audible buzzing sound BTW, unless someone really touches the monitor?s back with an ear

Contrast, black level and backlight uniformity

Contrast is more than sufficient, better than on my previous LCD (TN panel). Blacks are better as well, maybe not much deeper but less prone to bleeding light and discoloration. No black crush effect makes me gladly accept the slightly inferior blacks in comparison to S-PVA. Uniform backlight when displaying black screens, even at night. The A-TW Polarizer makes black look good even from angles.

Colors and gradients

Awesome colors. After just brightness and contrast reduction to tolerable levels, colors are juicy and vibrant without being oversaturated. Sure, some reds or greens are very pronounced but I didn?t even feel the need to switch to sRGB mode ? it made colors look paler and a bit washed out. Photos and movies look great, with no reddish faces and the like. White is true ?alpine? white. Games look awesome ? not oversaturated but very vivid. Without calibration, colors may not be extremely accurate, but I don?t care. They do look quite natural, balanced and vibrant, and this is enough for me as a general, non-professional user. Grays and other gradient transitions are smooth, without even faint banding. The great thing is that unlike on some cheaper monitors, brightness and contrast settings really make it possible to achieve a tolerable luminance without losing darkest or brighest gradients.

Viewing angles

Oh my goodness, what a relief in comparison to my old TN. No yellowish hue and abrupt contrast loss horizontally. No crazy darkening when moving my head down slightly. In LotRO, I can still see stars at night when lowering my line of sight. Colors stay true, I?m no longer a slave of the perfect ?straight on? sitting position. Plus, when viewing the screen straight on, no more vertically shifting gradient on uniform surfaces. Once IPS, always IPS, I guess (no rhyme intended )

Text quality and scaling

Sharp text, adjustable from absurd blurriness to absurd sharpness A perfect setting is around the default 26.2%. Fonts are large thanks to 0.287 mm pixel pitch. Great readability and viewing comfort. Much better than on 24-inchers for prolonged text/spreadsheet use or even gaming where 2D elements tend to be small (maps, chat logs, icons, etc.). Scaling is great as well, image stays surprisingly sharp in lower resolutions. Scaling is also fully customizable, 1:1 pixel mapping works flawlessly, you can even specify whether the borders should be black or dark gray (adjustable).

Pixel response

Before gaming, I turned overdrive on in the advanced OSD. I switched to 2690WUXi from a 2 ms rocket, namely the 226BW. The monitor is better than I expected in terms of responsiveness. It doesn?t ghost, OD doesn?t produce artifacts, it?s just smooth sailing. It handles dark-dark transitions exceptionally well. Motion blur is more pronounced than on 2 ms TN, which is visible in some games (some racing or FPS games) but in others, I could barely tell the difference. Anyway, it?s not intrusive and it doesn?t hamper pure gaming pleasure. It?s also a bit amplified by the sheer size of the monitor. IMHO, all games are fully playable, including FPS.

Input lag

On paper, same as on the best 24? S-PVAs (around 2 frames on average). In practice, I definitely felt it more on PVA (NEC 2470WNX and Eizo S2431W, which I also tested). On the NEC, the lag is perceptible in some games and some situations, but it?s not anything that would spoil my gaming. On the desktop, it?s practically not there. In shooter games, it?s so faint it?s barely noticeable. Online play works OK, I didn?t feel like ?too late at the trigger? despite being a former Q3 CPMA hardcore gamer. I won?t claim the lag doesn?t exist but I really doubt anyone (maybe except for professional cyber athletes sticking with CRT or gaming on strictly zero-lag LCDs) would be bothered.

SUMMARY

One of my best PC-related purchases ever and worth every penny (and there are quite a lot of them to pay). Awesome size, image quality and really good responsiveness as well. I think I won?t even look at non-IPS screens anymore. This LCD should be my perfect bridge to new technologies like OLED, SED or whatever. I was a bit afraid of input lag, wide gamut issues and subpar panel speed, but the 2690WUXi literally crushed my fears. It?s a fantastic allround monitor that can be used for gaming. Sure, there IS room for improvement in some areas, but no perfect LCD exists, and having tested multiple monitors recently, this one seems like a really good decision
:wine:
Excellent review thanks DARX - If I remember right your quest has been quite extensive glad you found something you are pleased with (as if) ... so true about there is no going back from IPS one you been there - unless we are forced to by market demographics of course. I would have paid double for that little NEC 20WMGX2.

 

japinard

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DarkX - did you try the HP LP2475W? Sounds like these are the two non-TN screens serious gamers should be considering?
 

xtknight

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Originally posted by: casedawg
What's the deal with open box monitors sold from newegg? Are they returns from customers and are therefore more likely to have dead pixels? The good news is they can be returned for a refund, unlike new LCDs, but I'd still rather avoid shipping it here and back if there's a high chance of defects.

No clue. Same deal with open box monitors sold elsewhere probably. Higher likelihood of dead pixels. But I don't know how they returned to Newegg, because I didn't think Newegg accepted returns for LCDs.

Originally posted by: japinard
First I'd like to say thanks for such a brilliant thread.

Based on the original OP and several recommendations I purchased a BenQ V2400W from Amazon. So far I'm pretty dsapppointed in it. About 70% of my time is spent heavy-duty gaming and the other 30% of my time is coding/Internet stuff. The problem with the BenQ is the display is very dull. I've tried calibrating it with different sites/software but can't seem to get in into a comfortable range that looks colorfully dynamic yet not blinding bright. Also, when I go into any mode except Normal/sRGB whites and light blue instead of white. So I'm looking at other options. I'm typing on an HP w2408h loaner and I love the glossy coating, but can't understand why it's not a good gamer monitor according to the main guide. I looked at the reference German site (Prad/de) and they seem to have the HP & LG displays as the top picks.

Would any of you mind helping me figure out what I should do? I only have 6 days to make a decision as my wife needs major surgery and I won't be able to play around with monitor stuff past that date (plus the return window on the Amazon LCD will close too). My budget was originally $400, but I'm starting to not care if I have to spend more to get a display I won't regret in a year. If it helps, here are some of the games I enjoy most on the PC (like most gamers I'm worried about input lag and ghosting, but I don't care about higher color gamut):

* Lock-On Modern Combat
* Silent Hunter IV
* Supreme Commander
* Gal Civ 2

I didn't add the w2408h to Gaming because the avg input lag is >16 ms (at least according to DigitalVersus). I didn't see that prad or TFTcentral had any measurements for it. The w2408h also has no overdrive, which can be a bit questionable for ghosting performance although that's not necessarily a reason for it to be revoked.

http://www.digitalversus.com/d...&mo2=411&p2=3807&ph=12

I already laxed the recommendations for the Gaming section and I probably shouldn't do it any further. Note the difference between Hardcore Gaming and Multimedia. Even if you game 90% of the time but don't care obsessively about your game performance and would sacrifice response time for something else, Multimedia is still a good choice.

If you like the w2408h better keep it. I think that is the simple decision here. Others can not stand 1 frame of lag so I am forced to have the guide as it is. The w2408 is still probably a great gaming monitor, but perhaps not a 'hardcore gaming' one (by the strictest definitions). I am constantly ambivalent about whether I should have the gaming section be <=2 frames of lag max with no other restrictions, or risk losing credibility and give points to manufacturers by making requirements too relaxed. For now I'd like to keep it strict. I am surprised though that the V2400W is "dull" compared to the w2408. It must all be the glossy coating. Whoops, also the w2408 is wide gamut so it is more vibrant but less accurate. Some prefer that, others dislike it.
 

Zebo

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xtknight - you are really out-doing yourself keeping this thread up-to-date and with continuous support. Your user name, knight, is apropos.

One question - has anything larger come out to displace the old 20WMGX2 which TFT central uses as gold standard?

I am thinking about ordering a Hazro from the uk - supposed to be like 20WMGX2 but 24" and all aluminum housing.

Thanks
 

Mr. Lennon

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Why doesn't Anandtech make a mini section dedicated to displays? Keeping all this information to one thread is kinda dumb.
 

HorseFace

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To whoever was complaining about bad color saturation: this option can be adjusted through your manufacturer's video card menu.
 

Butterbean

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Originally posted by: casedawg
What's the deal with open box monitors sold from newegg? Are they returns from customers and are therefore more likely to have dead pixels? The good news is they can be returned for a refund, unlike new LCDs, but I'd still rather avoid shipping it here and back if there's a high chance of defects.

I bought an open box 90GX2 from Newegg for $135 and it was perfect. Sometimes you can tell from the prices if something might be wrong. If a monitor sells for $300 and one open box version is $250 and another is $215 you can expect the latter version to be more problematic. Sometimes the issue is just a missing cable etc and not the display itself. In some ways I feel better buying open box than a new one since the Egg is so fussy (probably smart on their part)
 

xtknight

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Originally posted by: Zebo
xtknight - you are really out-doing yourself keeping this thread up-to-date and with continuous support. Your user name, knight, is apropos.

One question - has anything larger come out to displace the old 20WMGX2 which TFT central uses as gold standard?

I am thinking about ordering a Hazro from the uk - supposed to be like 20WMGX2 but 24" and all aluminum housing.

Thanks

Nice to see you back Zebo. It sure has been awhile.

The LCD2490/LCD2690, I think, have displaced the 20WMGX2 overall. The LCD24/26 still has more input lag but it's not serious enough to be bothersome in many cases except for hardcore gaming.
 

xtknight

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Originally posted by: Zeppelin2282
Why doesn't Anandtech make a mini section dedicated to displays? Keeping all this information to one thread is kinda dumb.

Originally posted by: LightningRider
I agree, we should have a separate forum.

I listen to your concerns but can't do much about it myself. The "powers that be" can decide this, but it took awhile to get the new forum sections here so I would not anticipate change anytime soon.

Sometimes this job seems overwhelming for one person and a multi-thread style would work better, but more than likely I just need a swift kick in the ass like everyone else. I still agree it would be better for overall discussion (one thread per model like at HardForum).
 

Schadenfroh

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Originally posted by: LightningRider
I agree, we should have a separate forum.

Make a thread in the suggestions subforum about it, changes are coming with the upcoming VB move and your suggestion might become part of it.
 

asleepy

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Originally posted by: asleepy
Originally posted by: xtknight
Originally posted by: asleepy
After much searching, this looks to be the resource I've been looking for.
I'm a commodities trader in need of an upgrade. I'm planning on buying an additional Dell workstation to reduce the load on my current setup(Dell WS380/2001FP x 2.)
I'd like to buy 2 displays, the bigger the better up to 30", to handle my work. In fast markets the demands on my system/screens should be the equivalent of max gaming without the 3-D I think, and I'm trying to speed things up at each critical point.
My main requirements in order of importance:
1. a)Fastest response to image input -- time between output from PC to image rendered viewable. I need to see the next change in market data asap.
b)Fastest response to my inputs, which is mouse(Razer) rolling & clicking. I need to be able to submit orders asap.
2. Size: Bigger is better, as long as size doesn't materially affect item #1 above. It's easier to have more info on a bigger screen than 8 screens that have a huge footprint and cause me to scan more left/right.
3. Reliability --- speaks for itself.
That's it. Color, outside inputs, movies, etc. aren't part of the equation here....just business. Cost is less a concern as it is a business expense.
I'm finding I need more "open" screen space in front of me than I have with the 2-20s. I could go up as high as 2-30" displays side by side in front of me with the other two displaying less critical info above or to the side.
And one last question: in your experience, are there any suitable (read: fast enough) 40" to 46" displays that I could place farther away from me? I'm assuming they'd run at lower resolution? I'd put less critical charts & price matrices on it, but it would still be updated tick-by-tick.
Thanks for your help.

NEC has some public displays that are around 40" and higher but they are quite expensive.

Some 1080p LCD TVs might suffice.

I recommend 2 Planar PX2611Ws or 2 Dell 3007WFP-HCs. The Planars would feel faster because they have a bigger dot pitch and would respond faster to input. The Dells will show more information per area, and are bigger.


Thank you for your good help, xtknight.

I got a nice discount on the 3007WFP-HC---will let you know how it turns out.
Okay, no lift-off with this.

The Dell salesman sold me an Nvidia Quadro NVS440 256 would run the 3007WFP-HC, and my two 2001FP monitors on my Precision 380 to get this setup:

http://www.ubergizmo.com/photo...2/dell-3007wfp-468.jpg

But now Dell tech support says it won't do the trick.

Does anyone know what setup I'd need to run the 2-2001FPs vertically aligned on either side of the 3007FP as one desktop? I know the ubergizmo guy did it???

If I need to buy a new workstation to do this which Dell would it be? Thanks.



 

xtknight

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Originally posted by: asleepy
Originally posted by: asleepy
Originally posted by: xtknight
Originally posted by: asleepy
After much searching, this looks to be the resource I've been looking for.
I'm a commodities trader in need of an upgrade. I'm planning on buying an additional Dell workstation to reduce the load on my current setup(Dell WS380/2001FP x 2.)
I'd like to buy 2 displays, the bigger the better up to 30", to handle my work. In fast markets the demands on my system/screens should be the equivalent of max gaming without the 3-D I think, and I'm trying to speed things up at each critical point.
My main requirements in order of importance:
1. a)Fastest response to image input -- time between output from PC to image rendered viewable. I need to see the next change in market data asap.
b)Fastest response to my inputs, which is mouse(Razer) rolling & clicking. I need to be able to submit orders asap.
2. Size: Bigger is better, as long as size doesn't materially affect item #1 above. It's easier to have more info on a bigger screen than 8 screens that have a huge footprint and cause me to scan more left/right.
3. Reliability --- speaks for itself.
That's it. Color, outside inputs, movies, etc. aren't part of the equation here....just business. Cost is less a concern as it is a business expense.
I'm finding I need more "open" screen space in front of me than I have with the 2-20s. I could go up as high as 2-30" displays side by side in front of me with the other two displaying less critical info above or to the side.
And one last question: in your experience, are there any suitable (read: fast enough) 40" to 46" displays that I could place farther away from me? I'm assuming they'd run at lower resolution? I'd put less critical charts & price matrices on it, but it would still be updated tick-by-tick.
Thanks for your help.

NEC has some public displays that are around 40" and higher but they are quite expensive.

Some 1080p LCD TVs might suffice.

I recommend 2 Planar PX2611Ws or 2 Dell 3007WFP-HCs. The Planars would feel faster because they have a bigger dot pitch and would respond faster to input. The Dells will show more information per area, and are bigger.


Thank you for your good help, xtknight.

I got a nice discount on the 3007WFP-HC---will let you know how it turns out.
Okay, no lift-off with this.

The Dell salesman sold me an Nvidia Quadro NVS440 256 would run the 3007WFP-HC, and my two 2001FP monitors on my Precision 380 to get this setup:

I don't see how that's possible when the Quadro only has two DVI ports. You need two cards (most likely, unless there is a card out there with more ports like some sort of Matrox).

http://www.ubergizmo.com/photo...2/dell-3007wfp-468.jpg

But now Dell tech support says it won't do the trick.

Does anyone know what setup I'd need to run the 2-2001FPs vertically aligned on either side of the 3007FP as one desktop? I know the ubergizmo guy did it???

If I need to buy a new workstation to do this which Dell would it be? Thanks.

You just need multiple graphics cards. Hopefully your motherboard has the expansion ports you need (probably multiple PCI Express). A simple PCI card would do if you're not playing games.
 

xtknight

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Originally posted by: esideesi
hey xtknight, what do you think of the new 24" monitor by apple? do you think specs are worth it?

Yeah that's a pretty nice panel. If you were already looking at getting an iMac, the 24" is a good choice due to the H-IPS panel.

Edit: oh you are talking about the 24" LED display, not the older 24" iMac. I am not sure about the new panel or whether it's H-IPS, I'll have to check that out.
 

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I'm going to buy a MacBook any day now and I want to buy a monitor to go with it. As the monitor will only be used for office work only, I'm considering buying a very cheap model. That way I should be able to afford the more expensive 2.4GHz Macbook. Enough with the chat, I've browsed around at a local store and here are the displays that caught my eye:

- Samsung 2223NW - 22'' - 1680*1050 - 169 euros
- Philips 200CW - 20.1'' - 1680*1050 - 159 euros
- AOC 2215Sw - 21.6'' - 1680*1050 - 159 euros

There's little information about these monitors on the web. Just the one PC Pro review for the Philips monitor (http://www.pcpro.co.uk/labs/206880/philips-200cw.html). The Samsung and AOC monitors only seem to support D-SUB. I'm not sure how much of a problem this might be for my limited requirements. Additionally, I'll probably want a VGA adapter for connecting to overhead displays. So even if I bought the Philips monitor, I might still opt for using D-SUB anyway.

Is anyone here familiar with these monitors? If not, I'll probably go with the Samsung because it's the prettier one.
 
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