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xtknight

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Originally posted by: cluelessly
I'm searching for 20-23" monitors. My main interest is in watching HD quality movies and being able to look at very sharp and clear pictures. I'm not a gamer and I don't need HDMI, but I would like to view HD quality movies. I'm leaning towards deciding from Samsung, LG, or HP models, but I'm open to other suggestions (I just found out about BenQ so I don't know anything about their quality relative to Samsung or LG)

I went to the store and looked at a couple of models: Samsung 2443bwx, 2343bwx, 2253lw, and the LG L227wtg-pf, L227WT.

A few models from the recommendation list here caught my eye too:
Lenovo ThinkVision L220X, HP LP2465 (I know this is 24"), HP LP2065, Samsung SyncMaster 2493HM (this also 24").

Can anyone help me how I can decide which specs are appropriate for me and which brand is the best relative to those specs?

The Lenovo L220X is a great monitor for your purposes due to its VA panel. But the LP2465 would also suffice if you can afford that.

Also, regarding glossy and matte monitors- I know that the usual complaint against glossy is that it's too reflective. Assuming I can control the lighting environment pretty well to reduce the reflection, which type has better image quality in terms of better/truer color and sharper images?

Glossy.

I'm wondering because I heard that glossy monitors don't display colors accurately, and that the colors only "look brighter" because they aren't really accurate. Is this true?

Not really. Glossy increases the transmissivity of the glass. You are seeing what you are supposed to be seeing. Reflection can make it look artificial, but like I say, if you don't have tons of reflections it'll look great.

And how would the two types compare in different conditions, such as complete darkness, a dim environment, or a bright environment without a light source directly reflecting off of it? What differences do you get between monitors that have glossy and TN, or glossy and VA, or matte and TN, or matte and VA?

Lastly, are the Samsung Touch of Color LCD's primarily used for non-PC monitors?

Thanks for the help.

In complete darkness, glossy looks better, as there are few reflections.
In dim environments, glossy looks better, as there are few reflections. The small amount of light also gives glossy monitors a huge advantage.
In a bright environment, sometimes glossy's reflections can be annoying, but sometimes you can forget about them.

So, I usually declare glossy to be a winner for 2/3 conditions.

The underlying panel type doesn't really change how matte/glossy work. The same properties of these coatings hold regardless of the panel type.

Samsung's ToC monitors with model numbers ending in HD are for multipurpose or TV. Their ToC series not ending in HD are for computers.
 

xtknight

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Originally posted by: kenudigit
Happy Turkey Day. I would like to thank the OP for this thread. It helped me out greatly on picking a monitor. For all the people caught up in black friday deals, I stumbled onto a nice deal being offered on newegg for the G2400WD ($290):

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16824014173

Thx...you too.

And good choice.

Originally posted by: AiponGkooja
This one any good? It's not listed anywhere on here, but seems to have solid reviews:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/..._-24-009-154-_-Product

Don't really know, sorry. It looks to not be too shabby.

Originally posted by: Bryson777
What about the Acer H213H 21.5" 1080p monitor? Seems like the 21" version of the above.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16824009157

I am desperately looking for a gaming(PC/PS3/XBOX) and movie watching monitor. I actually owned an l227wtg briefly before returning it to futureshop. It was my first experience with an LCD monitor and the viewing angles turned me off so much that I am contemplating purchasing a 32" LCD HDTV instead. Everything else about that monitor was TOP notch from the colors and deep blacks, responsiveness, sharp text and gaming was a treat. Unfortunately, it seems like futureshop no longer carries that model Any idea why?

No clue...it's still prevalent in the US.

I am also very interested in the G2400WD but I just can't seem to find a store that has this monitor on display here in montreal and I just don't feel comfortable buying it without seeing first hand what the viewing angles are like. So if the Acers mentioned above are any good then that would be great, especially if it satisfies me enough to keep me from forking over the dough for a full fledged 1080p LCD TV.

You however are still choosing TN panels.

I suggest trying some of the VA or IPS screens suggested in the OP, in order to avoid the viewing angle problems. I didn't think the L227's angle were that bad for most uses, so for sure you'll have to start looking at non-TNs.
 

Vektor67

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I'm selling my old tower and am going to include my 2005FPW in the deal this means I have to order a Monitor in the next few days, I can't really afford much more than 400.00 unles there is a very compelling reason to do so. I watch all of my tv shows (downloaded to Comp)
I'm into photography and do photo editing so I need a panel that I can dial in with my calibrator and that will display true colors, I also go into and out of gaming phases and I feel one coming on. I don't want to go smaller than 24" and would naturally like to go as large as I can, I have a 9800 GTX video card. I'd be very grateful for some good advice as I need to jump on this sooner than I'd like and won't really have time to fully research my decision. Thanks, Mike
 

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Originally posted by: xtknight
I suggest trying some of the VA or IPS screens suggested in the OP, in order to avoid the viewing angle problems. I didn't think the L227's angle were that bad for most uses, so for sure you'll have to start looking at non-TNs.

I don't want to wrongly disuade potential buyers of the L227. The image quality was razor sharp and the colors vibrant. I am sold on glossy panels! While it had bad viewing angles and a yellowish tint, I suspect the monitor I had, had previously been returned so it might very well have been a defective unit. If this monitor was still being sold at futureshop i would gladly given it another shot. 10 000:1 and 170 degrees H/V angles easily puts it at the top of TN panels.

I will be looking at the G2400WD this week however, I fear that i will be disappointed with the 4000:1 DC and matte panel. That's where plan B comes in. LCD TV baby!


 

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Ahhh need some help here.

I sold my VX2235wm and bought the Samsung T220 solely because of this review:

http://www.digitalversus.com/article-358-3448-36.html

So the monitor looks gorgeous, and there are no dead pixels... but I have a problem... and I think it is a big one since I am a graphics designer. There is a strange issue where the top half of my screen seems to be slightly darker than the lower half. This is most apparent when the background is a light color. For example if there is a blue colored object on my screen, when I scroll down, it lighter in color!

From what I remember of my VX2235, I had no such issues before!

Is this backlight bleeding? Will it get better on its own? Please assist.
 

Vektor67

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Originally posted by: Bryson777
Originally posted by: xtknight
I suggest trying some of the VA or IPS screens suggested in the OP, in order to avoid the viewing angle problems. I didn't think the L227's angle were that bad for most uses, so for sure you'll have to start looking at non-TNs.

I don't want to wrongly disuade potential buyers of the L227. The image quality was razor sharp and the colors vibrant. I am sold on glossy panels! While it had bad viewing angles and a yellowish tint, I suspect the monitor I had, had previously been returned so it might very well have been a defective unit. If this monitor was still being sold at futureshop i would gladly given it another shot. 10 000:1 and 170 degrees H/V angles easily puts it at the top of TN panels.

I will be looking at the G2400WD this week however, I fear that i will be disappointed with the 4000:1 DC and matte panel. That's where plan B comes in. LCD TV baby!

Thanks for the reply. I spent 4+ hours last night swimming in a sea of LCD's and the pickings appear to be pretty slim. My 2005 FPW has one of the elusive S-IPS panels, but it seems manufacturers aren't so willing to disclose the type of panel in their specs half of the time. I guess I can tell some things about it by the viewing angle for instance the Doublesight DS-245W has a 178/178 VA but I'm not finding the precise panel they are using. You are correct I've discounted the TN panels, which accounts for about 90% of whats out there, most if not all of the S-IPS are outside my price range atm. This kind of came out of left field as I have the buying fever for a new Guitar right now and don't really want the distraction. I guess I could always buy a cheap 19"/20" to sell with my old computer and hold off on the panel until I can afford the 3007WFP/3008WFP which has a good panel in it. I sure would like b bigger LCD however. I wonder often about LCD TV's and why more people don't buy one to use for the computer. I'm not sure of the +/- of that as an option. Thanks again
 

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Hey guys

I have a Samsung 2232GW 22" LCD screen. I am experiencing this white lag/ghosting behind moving windows and in games. I did a PixPerAn test and compared it to my brother (the last test where the car drives across your screen) and the image was similar to his (he has a 22" LG WTQ-BF) so its not lagging in everything. But when he drags his windows around, there is no white ghosting or trial behind test/images.

I notice the white trail quite evidently in games like Need for Speed

Does this happen on all Samsung 2232GW's? Anyone else with this model screen experience the same lag?
 

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Why are so many monitors now being released in 16:9 aspect ratio? I find this recent trend genuinely disturbing. The last thing we need is even less vertical space. Computer monitors are not really for watching videos on, they are for reading documents and internet on, and doing other WORK. 16:9 is less conducive to that than 16:10
 

DaveLessnau

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Originally posted by: bradsh
Why are so many monitors now being released in 16:9 aspect ratio? I find this recent trend genuinely disturbing. The last thing we need is even less vertical space. Computer monitors are not really for watching videos on, they are for reading documents and internet on, and doing other WORK. 16:9 is less conducive to that than 16:10

Well, as Tolkien said:

One ring to rule them all, one ring to find them, one ring to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them.

My guess is that the parts for televisions and computer monitors all come from the same few companies and they want/need to standardize their offerings. Since 16:9 is the proper aspect ratio for television, that's what they're standardizing to.
 

xtknight

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Originally posted by: NAC
I did try standard and all the Splendid modes. I think it basically has "standard" and several "splendid" modes. Each have preset settings - contrast, color, etc. In standard mode, you can't access some potential settings like vibrancy (or something like that). But with the splendid modes you can access those settings, and change and save any setting. So now I'm running in one splendid modes with most of the settings changed - including that vibrancy (something like that). I now have the contrast at 50% and brightness still at 0%.

Perhaps I came across a bit harsh in my first post. Of course, you can read text and if this was your only monitor, you might not notice that it isn't quite as clear as it could be. But since I have others to compare, I have to be honest that I don't recommend the Asus if you are going to do office type work.

BTW, my monitors at work are HP LP1965 - another model which you recommend. They are awesome for text (not sure about colors compared to Asus).

No not harsh I'm just awful surprised, that's all. I see that other people on Newegg say the same thing so I'll remove it from Office Work. Sorry for your bad experience but thank you for letting me know about it.

I wish that I could see the LCDs I recommend first-hand, but unfortunately that's usually not possible so I have to make do with the resources available. Sometimes they are wrong, although I usually trust X-Bit religiously. Maybe the unit they got was different.
 

xtknight

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Originally posted by: scotyard
Hi, i am looking for the perfect monitor.Should i go for

Dell 2208 WFP 22 " UltraSharp

Samsung T220?

or

Dell S2209 WFP 22 " Widescreen Flat Panel LCD Monitor?

Perfect one? Probably none of these then and one recommended in the OP like the LG L227WTG-PF.

Originally posted by: Praxis1452
Hmm with all the BF deals for monitors out I've got a budget of $400(though would prefer <$300) and need a multimedia monitor heh. Anyone got a suggestion?

I didn't notice any real killer deals. I doubt you missed anything. Usually Black Friday just slices 30% off the bad monitors.

Did you end up with anything or are you still looking for a monitor <$400?
 

xtknight

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Originally posted by: LennyL5
First I would like to thank everybody for all the great information in this forum, especially xtknight. Although it is a HUGE thread, I was able to search through it and get quite a few of my questions answered.

That makes me happy. Answering the same questions over and over again is not very fun, so thank you for searching. That's kind of the point of a huge blubbering obese thread isn't it, to find information in it...

I am looking for a dual 19-20? monitor set up that I will be using for work, amateur photography work, and MAYBE some basic games. For work, I will primarily be using the dual set up with an online web meeting on one monitor and the other monitor will be used for other general purpose activities (email, word processing, presentations, etc). For amateur photography work, I will have a photograph I am working on in one monitor and my pallets or other general stuff on the other monitor. If I play games, it will probably be basic games?cards, board, etc.
With that said, I currently have one 17? CRT monitor and I am relatively pleased with it. But like I said, I want a dual monitor set up and the CRT is taking up quite a bit of space on my desk. I am considering upgrading to a more efficient set up. I have been learning the technology behind LCD monitors over the past week and as I expected our friendly electronic companies have made the decision making process seemingly difficult, at best. From what I have read I believe the following thins are important to me based on my use of the monitor:
? IPS, PVA, or MVA panel
? Good contrast for photo editing
? Good color saturation
? Ability to rotate monitor into a portrait mode
? True 8-bit per channel
? 6-8ms response time. From what I understand a IPS, PVA, or MVA panel will have to have RTC (Response Time Compensation) to achieve this response time so it doesn?t look like I have my beer goggles on if I am trying to play a basic game or view a movie!
? A native resolution that my video card can output. I have an Radeon 9500.

Do you believe my important items above match my needs for a monitor? Based on the above important items and based on info from this forum, tftcentral, and xbitlabs it seems that all roads are leading to 4 monitors.
? HP LP1965 (P-MVA, 6ms)
? HP LP2065 (S-IPS, 8ms or AMVA, 8ms)
? Dell 2007FP (S-IPS, 16ms or S-PVA, 8ms)
? Dell 2007WFP (S-IPS, 16ms or S-PVA, 8ms)

Yup these are pretty much exactly what I would have recommended. Higher end LCDs from the PC manufacturers (HP, Dell) like these are full-featured often with pivot support and good panels inside. Personally I think a 2x HP LP2065 or 2x Dell 2007FP setup is great, whichever is easiest to obtain. Dell's 2007FP and the HP LP2065 do have a harsh anti-glare coating, but you'll get used to it. I am not sure if the 2007WFP and LP1965 do or not but you probably won't be worrying about those now.

I wouldn't worry about response time, you're almost certainly fine unless you're extremely picky about it (hardcore league gamer).

I am trying to keep the cost per monitor around/below $300. Based on my needs and wants, do these monitors seem to be a good fit? Do I have the correct technologies and response times captured for these monitors? Also, are there other monitors out there that I am missing? I am not so sure I want a wide screen so I am not too excited about the Dell 2007WFP. I don?t know that I have a need or the desk space for a wide screen monitor. I prefer the non-wide screen geometry. Also, I have seen some information about HCDP. What is this?what does it do for me? Do these monitors have this?
Thank you very much for taking the time to read this and I would appreciate any help I can get here!!!

The LP2065 and 2007FP do not have HDCP, but for your uses you do not need it. It's for Blu-Ray/HD-DVD players that need encryption.

Interestingly, the 2007WFP does have it. I don't know if the LP1965 does or not.

I realize you're probably above budget but I think it's worth it. I can't come up with any other setup than 2xLP2065 or 2x2007FP that I think is a great idea. Get the HP to save money and perhaps have a higher likelihood of receiving an IPS panel.
 

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Originally posted by: xtknight
Originally posted by: LennyL5
First I would like to thank everybody for all the great information in this forum, especially xtknight. Although it is a HUGE thread, I was able to search through it and get quite a few of my questions answered.

That makes me happy. Answering the same questions over and over again is not very fun, so thank you for searching. That's kind of the point of a huge blubbering obese thread isn't it, to find information in it...

I am looking for a dual 19-20? monitor set up that I will be using for work, amateur photography work, and MAYBE some basic games. For work, I will primarily be using the dual set up with an online web meeting on one monitor and the other monitor will be used for other general purpose activities (email, word processing, presentations, etc). For amateur photography work, I will have a photograph I am working on in one monitor and my pallets or other general stuff on the other monitor. If I play games, it will probably be basic games?cards, board, etc.
With that said, I currently have one 17? CRT monitor and I am relatively pleased with it. But like I said, I want a dual monitor set up and the CRT is taking up quite a bit of space on my desk. I am considering upgrading to a more efficient set up. I have been learning the technology behind LCD monitors over the past week and as I expected our friendly electronic companies have made the decision making process seemingly difficult, at best. From what I have read I believe the following thins are important to me based on my use of the monitor:
? IPS, PVA, or MVA panel
? Good contrast for photo editing
? Good color saturation
? Ability to rotate monitor into a portrait mode
? True 8-bit per channel
? 6-8ms response time. From what I understand a IPS, PVA, or MVA panel will have to have RTC (Response Time Compensation) to achieve this response time so it doesn?t look like I have my beer goggles on if I am trying to play a basic game or view a movie!
? A native resolution that my video card can output. I have an Radeon 9500.

Do you believe my important items above match my needs for a monitor? Based on the above important items and based on info from this forum, tftcentral, and xbitlabs it seems that all roads are leading to 4 monitors.
? HP LP1965 (P-MVA, 6ms)
? HP LP2065 (S-IPS, 8ms or AMVA, 8ms)
? Dell 2007FP (S-IPS, 16ms or S-PVA, 8ms)
? Dell 2007WFP (S-IPS, 16ms or S-PVA, 8ms)

Yup these are pretty much exactly what I would have recommended. Higher end LCDs from the PC manufacturers (HP, Dell) like these are full-featured often with pivot support and good panels inside. Personally I think a 2x HP LP2065 or 2x Dell 2007FP setup is great, whichever is easiest to obtain. Dell's 2007FP and the HP LP2065 do have a harsh anti-glare coating, but you'll get used to it. I am not sure if the 2007WFP and LP1965 do or not but you probably won't be worrying about those now.

I wouldn't worry about response time, you're almost certainly fine unless you're extremely picky about it (hardcore league gamer).

I am trying to keep the cost per monitor around/below $300. Based on my needs and wants, do these monitors seem to be a good fit? Do I have the correct technologies and response times captured for these monitors? Also, are there other monitors out there that I am missing? I am not so sure I want a wide screen so I am not too excited about the Dell 2007WFP. I don?t know that I have a need or the desk space for a wide screen monitor. I prefer the non-wide screen geometry. Also, I have seen some information about HCDP. What is this?what does it do for me? Do these monitors have this?
Thank you very much for taking the time to read this and I would appreciate any help I can get here!!!

The LP2065 and 2007FP do not have HDCP, but for your uses you do not need it. It's for Blu-Ray/HD-DVD players that need encryption.

Interestingly, the 2007WFP does have it. I don't know if the LP1965 does or not.

I realize you're probably above budget but I think it's worth it. I can't come up with any other setup than 2xLP2065 or 2x2007FP that I think is a great idea. Get the HP to save money and perhaps have a higher likelihood of receiving an IPS panel.

Thanks for the response. I appreciate it! Is there any reason you can think why I should not get the HP LP1965? Is there any benefit other than size to the LP2065? Reason I ask is because the LP1965 is about $100 less than the HP LP2065 and will put me close to my budget. Thanks!
 

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I'm looking for a 22" LCD for a new computer. I'll be mainly using it for internet/e-mail and gaming (e.g. Fallout 3, Crysis) but also some basic photo editing every once in a while. I was leaning towards the BenQ E2200HD, but after reading this thread, I'm wondering if maybe the LG L227WT would be a better choice. To me, they look like they are almost the same with the main differences lying in the features (16:10 vs. 16:9, HDMI, Speakers, etc.). Is there a difference between these two LCDs or the panels that they use that I am missing and is significant enough to give one an advantage over the other given what I'm going to use it for? Thanks in advance for the help.

-Tom

Edit: FWIW, I will be upgrading from a Dell 1901 FP.
 

neilganon

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I am using a Samsung 2032NW. Because of the cheap prices of the new 16:9 21.5" LCDs I really want to buy a one and sell this. I've found several models, but there are hardly any reviews.

Acer H213H bmid
BenQ E2200HD
ViewSonic VX2260wm

And I know Samsung and LG have similar models on the way.

I will be using this for gaming, HDMI for Xbox 360, and general use.

Right now I'm leaning towards the BenQ, but there is so little review information out there that I'm reluctant to make any decisions. Does anyone have any input/ info?
 

shinobiobi

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I'm having a pixel problem on my Dell 2007FPW. I'm not even sure how to identify it to begin with. I've had this monitor for about 5 months now, and today I noticed the problem. It's a tiny gray spot, it's not black, it doesn't show up on black backgrounds, and it never changes colors. From what I can deduce, it's neither a dead or stuck pixel. I'm trying to figure out what this is, so I can try to remedy the situation. If anyone could provide some information, that would be greatly appreciated.
 

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The specifications link for the BenQ G2400WD goes to a general product page. Here is the correct page.

Where do you rank pixel pitch when choosing an LCD? One of the sweet spots for pixel pitch and resolution seem to be the 1920 x 1080 22" models with .248

The BenQ G2400WD has a .27 pitch. Any advantages to the .022 pitch decrease at 1.5-2.5 ft viewing distance?
 

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If your friend's FP241W/VW is built after June 2007, it's the latest and greatest model that seemed to lose most input lag at native resolutions. My FP241VW averaged 7.95 ms @1920x1200 and 1920x1080 over DVI, which is more inline with DigitalVersus' rating for the V2400W. G2400WD is actually the same internally as the V2400W, so don't worry that you got a "slow one", you didn't.

The G2400W was the older version. Still a good screen IMHO, as are the G2400WD and V2400W.

DigitalVersus/Lesnumerique can be a good indicator of input lag, but they often will get some wildly out-of-sync results with other sites like prad.de and most users. I don't look at them as the odds on authority on input lag.

Originally posted by: jstdon
I picked up the BenQ G2400WD last night and it is at least as good as all the other monitors I tested it against.

However, there are some alarms raised here:
- it responded exactly the same as my friend's BenQ FP241W which is a PVA panel. This shouldn't be possible and the digitalversus link agrees. We performed the usual clock test with a camera and they were the same in 20 of 20 pictures we took.
- the digitalversus link for the G2400WD in this thread links to the "G2400W" panel, not the "G2400WD" panel. They may be the same panel, I'm uninformed.
- the digitalversus comparison for the LG L227WT is horrible. Why does it show a massively different result than prad.de?

 

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Originally posted by: xtknight
Originally posted by: cluelessly
I'm searching for 20-23" monitors. My main interest is in watching HD quality movies and being able to look at very sharp and clear pictures. I'm not a gamer and I don't need HDMI, but I would like to view HD quality movies. I'm leaning towards deciding from Samsung, LG, or HP models, but I'm open to other suggestions (I just found out about BenQ so I don't know anything about their quality relative to Samsung or LG)

I went to the store and looked at a couple of models: Samsung 2443bwx, 2343bwx, 2253lw, and the LG L227wtg-pf, L227WT.

A few models from the recommendation list here caught my eye too:
Lenovo ThinkVision L220X, HP LP2465 (I know this is 24"), HP LP2065, Samsung SyncMaster 2493HM (this also 24").

Can anyone help me how I can decide which specs are appropriate for me and which brand is the best relative to those specs?

The Lenovo L220X is a great monitor for your purposes due to its VA panel. But the LP2465 would also suffice if you can afford that.

Also, regarding glossy and matte monitors- I know that the usual complaint against glossy is that it's too reflective. Assuming I can control the lighting environment pretty well to reduce the reflection, which type has better image quality in terms of better/truer color and sharper images?

Glossy.

I'm wondering because I heard that glossy monitors don't display colors accurately, and that the colors only "look brighter" because they aren't really accurate. Is this true?

Not really. Glossy increases the transmissivity of the glass. You are seeing what you are supposed to be seeing. Reflection can make it look artificial, but like I say, if you don't have tons of reflections it'll look great.

And how would the two types compare in different conditions, such as complete darkness, a dim environment, or a bright environment without a light source directly reflecting off of it? What differences do you get between monitors that have glossy and TN, or glossy and VA, or matte and TN, or matte and VA?

Lastly, are the Samsung Touch of Color LCD's primarily used for non-PC monitors?

Thanks for the help.

In complete darkness, glossy looks better, as there are few reflections.
In dim environments, glossy looks better, as there are few reflections. The small amount of light also gives glossy monitors a huge advantage.
In a bright environment, sometimes glossy's reflections can be annoying, but sometimes you can forget about them.

So, I usually declare glossy to be a winner for 2/3 conditions.

The underlying panel type doesn't really change how matte/glossy work. The same properties of these coatings hold regardless of the panel type.

Samsung's ToC monitors with model numbers ending in HD are for multipurpose or TV. Their ToC series not ending in HD are for computers.

Thanks for your suggestions. I think I?m in love with the Lenovo L220X that you recommended, but the price is breaking my heart. Do you think there?s going to be a discount anytime soon for the holidays or after Christmas? If it can get around $350 I'll definitely get it.

If I don?t end up with the Lenovo, I?m trying to choose from the Samsung 2233bw, 2253bw, and the 2343bwx. I can get them at $179, $249, and $249 respectively. Newegg has a higher rating for the 2253bw over the 2233bw, but I can?t seem to find any opinions on the 2343bwx other than a thread on HardForum. Which of these 3 would be the best choice for watching HD movies? Should I also consider the Samsung T220 or LG L227WTG-PF?
 

xtknight

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Originally posted by: LennyL5
Thanks for the response. I appreciate it! Is there any reason you can think why I should not get the HP LP1965? Is there any benefit other than size to the LP2065? Reason I ask is because the LP1965 is about $100 less than the HP LP2065 and will put me close to my budget. Thanks!

No, you wouldn't be at a terrible disadvantage by getting the LP1965. Basically the same thing but smaller. A dual 20" setup is kind of cool though.
 

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Originally posted by: brainkot
Hi folks,

I have been using the same 17 inch monitor since 2001, and
would like to buy a replacement. I am looking at two monitors
mentioned previously in this thread:
HP LP2475W
L227WTG-PF
The most obvious difference between the two is the size (LG 22 inch
vs. HP 24 inch), but this is not too important for me. I also understood
that HP had a higher-quality panel. The price difference is large,
and I am trying to figure out if the extra money for the HP is
worth it. I don't game or do any kind of graphics intensive work,
what I do a lot is watching videos, reading and text editing (I might
spend the whole day editing and typesetting papers).
Do you think buying an HP panel would be worth it in this case, in
other words, will it give me any advantage in what I am using
my computer for?

Thanks!

The LG will probably work fine for you. I say that as an owner of one of the highest end IPS panels. I can't honestly say I really prefer my NEC IPS for general work that much.
 

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Originally posted by: albovin

Hello xtknight ,
I have found the first professional test review of the NEC 24WMGX3 - translation is here..

Accordind to the review, an outstandig monitor for multimedia.
Low input lag.

IMO the only con is A-MVA panel.

It seems to be a good candidate to your recommendation list.
Thanks.

Yea it looks to be a pretty good panel. I will probably add it once I get the time to look at that review more in-depth.
 
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