Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Any comments on the DELL S2309W?
A good value monitor but its a typical TN otherwise. The resolution is good for those solely caring about 16:9 material.
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Any comments on the DELL S2309W?
Originally posted by: xtknight
Originally posted by: RobertR1
Xt,
Would the Dell UltraSharp 3008WFP be the best 30inch option for gaming and just general desktop usage? Would it certainly be a step up for my Dell 2405 in terms of lag, motion resolution and such?
Or should I stick with 24inches and get the BenQ which everyone seems to love.
The 3008WFP would definitely be a step up from what you have now. The BenQ is good, but it's a TN, and in terms of the viewing angle and image detail, that will probably be a step down from what you have now. The response time of the BenQ and IPS-based 3008WFP isn't that different so the 3008WFP is a better overall panel but it's also very pricey as I'm sure you're aware. Consider the 3007WFP-HC as well: it's still available from Dell.
Originally posted by: kalrith
DJFuji, how far do you sit from the screen? I couldn't imagine working with a 40" monitor from closer than 4 feet away (even then it would be huge). If you are 4 feet or farther away, then even a 28" will be on the small side. You could always meet in the middle and get a 32-37" TV. I'm strongly leaning that way myself. I sit 3 feet away from my screen, so 32" should be perfect for me.
Originally posted by: DJFuji
Originally posted by: kalrith
DJFuji, how far do you sit from the screen? I couldn't imagine working with a 40" monitor from closer than 4 feet away (even then it would be huge). If you are 4 feet or farther away, then even a 28" will be on the small side. You could always meet in the middle and get a 32-37" TV. I'm strongly leaning that way myself. I sit 3 feet away from my screen, so 32" should be perfect for me.
Hm, you're probably right. I sit about 2' away right now with a 24" Dell and a 21" CRT. I'd love to junk the CRT as its lost about 50% of its brightness, but the response time in quake and CS is just SO fast compared to any LCD i've had that i dont want to get rid of it.
I guess in an ideal world i'd have two height-adjustable 28" monitors side by side with a 40" monitor attached to the wall above them.
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Can one game on the HP LP2475w or is it pretty bad for such applications?
The DELL 2408 is back at $600 and is now less appealing.
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Any opinions on the DELL 2209WA?
This might be my new monitor of choice. Seems like a great value.
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
I am just trying to decide how much money I want to part with.
My options at the moment at the DELL 2408WFP, HP LP2475w, or DELL 2209WA.
I am really thinking that $600 is too much for the 24" DELL. I should have bought it earlier this week for $470. I wonder when the next sale will be...
Originally posted by: Machinus
Help!!!!
I have the Planar PX2611W and the Eye One Display Two.
I have attempted to calibrate my monitor several times, but it always ends in disaster.
The configuration software asks you to adjust the RGB gain levels until they fall within the optimal range given by the digital meter, but when I follow these instructions the optimal color looks horribly red and is not 6500 at all.
My monitor has RGB gain, RGB offsets, saturation, brightness, and contrast levels. The EODT software doesn't seem to help when the "RGB controls" calibration turns everything red.
My monitor looks really nice when I set it by eye, but I want it to be more accurate. Is my colorimeter broken?
Originally posted by: Mem
The way I do it is get brightness and contrast to the way I like via general viewing and test charts,then at night use a colour calibration device to setup for colours etc..if its TN panel then you may need to pump up the saturation a touch after (some monitors like Asus have saturation adjustment etc...)depending if you like deep looking colours.
I actually got "scenery mode" on my Asus VW246H looking very well balanced even for TN panel.
Normally pretty easy to get any LCD looking the way I like it with a calibration device ,even with a TN panel.
Originally posted by: geokilla
Samsung 2243SWX
It's a 21.5" LCD monitor that has a 1920X1080 native resolution, thus making it true widescreen. The specs seem pretty good and it's definitely than my Sharp that I'm currently using.
I'm your occasional gamer/multimedia uer and I realize that games usually go from 1680X1050 to 1920X1200. Would my games run fine at 1920X1080 or should I look into another monitor?
Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Originally posted by: Mem
The way I do it is get brightness and contrast to the way I like via general viewing and test charts,then at night use a colour calibration device to setup for colours etc..if its TN panel then you may need to pump up the saturation a touch after (some monitors like Asus have saturation adjustment etc...)depending if you like deep looking colours.
I actually got "scenery mode" on my Asus VW246H looking very well balanced even for TN panel.
Normally pretty easy to get any LCD looking the way I like it with a calibration device ,even with a TN panel.
Adjusting saturation is the same as adjusting the individual RGB values expect that RGB adjustment is normally used on PCs while saturation adjustment is used on TV's and video devices. The PP is using his software to adjust software to get his target white point. Adjusting the saturation may throw off his adjustments he made to the RGB values to get the white point. In addition, adjusting saturation could lead to channel clipping which is never good.
Originally posted by: decaflame
xtknight et al.,
I, like many others here, am in the market for a new monitor. Preferably, I'd like this monitor to be 23 or 24", as that seems to be about the largest they can be before costing you an arm and a leg. My problem is that I may have some unrealistic expectations for a monitor based on what I'm currently using. Ultimately, while I'm not a hardcore gamer, I would prefer for my monitor to have decent input lag and response rates (<25 ms) for those occasions when I do want to game. I am also wary of TN panels because of viewing angle issues and their associated discoloration. Lastly, my monitor must have a height adjustment, as I am quite tall and can't have a monitor hugging my desk.
I currently have a Viewsonic VP191B 8ms model, which has performed fantastically in all of these regards. It is MVA technology, which gains the benefit of good viewing angles and high contrast ratios, but was one of the first to incorporate a solid overdrive feature that allows the responsiveness of the monitor to not be an issue when gaming (at least, in my experience). It has decent colors (8-bit), if slightly washed out at times, and as I mentioned before as a personal requirement, has a height adjustment. I paid about ~$420 for this monitor 4 years ago and consider it a well worthwhile investment.
My dilemma is that I can't seem to find a similar monitor in the 24" range that satisfies these same criterion. The closest thing I can find is the HP LP2475W or Dell 2408WFP, both of which seem to have their own share of issues. I am terrified of sinking $500 or more into a new monitor only to find that it's responsiveness is not as good as my old one or that the coloration is unnatural and not easily controlled. I know that Dell has recently released revision A02 for their 2408WFP, but I cannot find any solid information about what changes have been made over A01, or whether there is further improvement in the input lag issue many reported during the monitor's initial release. The LP2475W seems to have detractors in terms of color uniformity, but honestly, I'd probably be willing to ship it back and get a replacement if it meant ultimately getting the right monitor.
I suppose, in that sense, my priorities are:
1. 23 or 24" inches
2. Height adjustment
3. Responsiveness for gaming
4. Viewing angles
5. Decent picture
I would be perfectly happy with another MVA-based panel provided it had good responsiveness like my Viewsonic, but as I mentioned before, the Dell failed miserably in that regard. If the monitor I'm looking for doesn't exist right now, then it doesn't, and if waiting for the technology to mature another 6-18 months is the right thing to do I will do that. Just looking for some reassurance and feedback.
Thanks,
-Deca
Originally posted by: DJFuji
Costco has the 28" Hanns.G HG-281DPB for $300 w/ $25 S&H. Tempting.
I'm guessing that's probably still not worth it considering the awful review it got on extremetech?
I'm really caught between a 24-28" WUXGA monitor or a 40" LCD 1080p. The LCD will obviously be better for TV and such, but half the time i watch tv on the projector anyway. Can anyone comment on how practical it is to use a 40" 1080p HDTV as a primary monitor for general work/computer/web usage?
Originally posted by: chilledinsanity
Well after even more research, I think my ideal monitor doesn't exist. I tried looking at a lot of TN panels, but I just can't get used to vertical viewing angles (even when looking at it head on). Here's my new criteria:
-24"
-normal color gamut
-VA panel (I read these are more forgiving for video compression artifacts, which is semi-important to me)
-really minimal input lag (may not exist)
-Can actually buy it (I'm located in the USA)
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Can one game on the HP LP2475w or is it pretty bad for such applications?
The DELL 2408 is back at $600 and is now less appealing.
Originally posted by: RobertR1
Originally posted by: xtknight
Originally posted by: RobertR1
Xt,
Would the Dell UltraSharp 3008WFP be the best 30inch option for gaming and just general desktop usage? Would it certainly be a step up for my Dell 2405 in terms of lag, motion resolution and such?
Or should I stick with 24inches and get the BenQ which everyone seems to love.
The 3008WFP would definitely be a step up from what you have now. The BenQ is good, but it's a TN, and in terms of the viewing angle and image detail, that will probably be a step down from what you have now. The response time of the BenQ and IPS-based 3008WFP isn't that different so the 3008WFP is a better overall panel but it's also very pricey as I'm sure you're aware. Consider the 3007WFP-HC as well: it's still available from Dell.
Thanks XT. I ordered the 3008WFP. Just curious, outside of being cheaper, is there anything the 3007WFP-HC does better and where does the 3008 excel against it?
Originally posted by: Machinus
Help!!!!
I have the Planar PX2611W and the Eye One Display Two.
I have attempted to calibrate my monitor several times, but it always ends in disaster.
The configuration software asks you to adjust the RGB gain levels until they fall within the optimal range given by the digital meter, but when I follow these instructions the optimal color looks horribly red and is not 6500 at all.
My monitor has RGB gain, RGB offsets, saturation, brightness, and contrast levels. The EODT software doesn't seem to help when the "RGB controls" calibration turns everything red.
My monitor looks really nice when I set it by eye, but I want it to be more accurate. Is my colorimeter broken?
Originally posted by: mastertech01
I am contemplating buying a refurbished 2007fp since I hate wide flat panels. I want the S-IPS panel and one ebay seller has the refurbs for about 159.00 and states his are S-IPS. I asked him how he knows for sure they are the LG S-IPS and he says the serial number ends with an L. Would this be all that is necessary to tell it is S-IPS LG?
Originally posted by: geokilla
Samsung 2243SWX
It's a 21.5" LCD monitor that has a 1920X1080 native resolution, thus making it true widescreen. The specs seem pretty good and it's definitely than my Sharp that I'm currently using.
I'm your occasional gamer/multimedia uer and I realize that games usually go from 1680X1050 to 1920X1200. Would my games run fine at 1920X1080 or should I look into another monitor?