Revealed: 2008 Nissan GT-R

[ponyo]

7:38 reported by Edmunds was supposedly 3 weeks ago. Motortrend is reporting 7:35 run today. If these reports turn out accurate, I give mad props to Nissan engineers. I'm going to start saving my pennies.

 

[Estrella]

Originally posted by: Naustica
7:38 reported by Edmunds was supposedly 3 weeks ago. Motortrend is reporting 7:35 run today. If these reports turn out accurate, I give mad props to Nissan engineers. I'm going to start saving my pennies.

damn, i will take one

 

[alimoalem]

damn. i was hoping for something better. still looks alright and the numbers are impressive but still. any way a v8 can fit under there?

 

[Aikouka]

Originally posted by: Naustica
7:38 reported by Edmunds was supposedly 3 weeks ago. Motortrend is reporting 7:35 run today. If these reports turn out accurate, I give mad props to Nissan engineers. I'm going to start saving my pennies.

Heh, if I wanted to kill my money supply, I would've not bought my Altima and got one, but I think I'm just going to get a used one in 4-ish years when I trade my Altima in. I'd estimate they'd be 30-40k used and my car will still hold a decent value. The only hard part will be finding one that has what I want... it's gotta be black.

 

[SithSolo1]

Originally posted by: Aikouka
[Heh, if I wanted to kill my money supply, I would've not bought my Altima and got one, but I think I'm just going to get a used one in 4-ish years when I trade my Altima in. I'd estimate they'd be 30-40k used and my car will still hold a decent value. The only hard part will be finding one that has what I want... it's gotta be black.

You are kidding yourself if you think these are going to go down in price.

 

[dawheat]

Originally posted by: Naustica
7:38 reported by Edmunds was supposedly 3 weeks ago. Motortrend is reporting 7:35 run today. If these reports turn out accurate, I give mad props to Nissan engineers. I'm going to start saving my pennies.

There was some talk about Nissan bolting on R-compound tires and tweaking the turbo boost to make it not exactly production equivilent to hit those times.

If a bone stock base GT-R is hitting those times, good fricking gracious. If a base GT-R with slicks and turbo boost maxed out for that lap is hitting that time, its still a good time but not as impressive.

 

[Arkaign]

Originally posted by: mwmorph

Originally posted by: Aikouka

Originally posted by: Arkaign
the excellent 300ZX ate too many cheeseburgers and became a porky, slow (Relative to it's heritage) 350Z, and 5 years later, STILL no ZX version.

Why would you need a 350ZX? According to Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/300ZX

The "X" was added to the model name by its predecessor signifying "luxury".

Do you want a more luxurious 350Z?

They already have it, it's called the G37

Actually, it was my misinterpretation (perhaps?), that the ZX moniker was reserved for the high-end Z cars, including the TT models. I never saw a 300Z TT, always 300ZX TT. So, it would make sense that if Nissan released a high-end, more powerful 350Z model, it would carry the 'ZX' on the name. I think it would make sense to do a 5.6L V8 model, but now that the GT-R is on the way, I guess they wouldn't want to potentially overlap in performance like that. From what I've heard, and seen in videos with blown motors, the stock 350Z motor can't take very much boost compared to the Supra/Skyline/Evo/STi/etc.

 

[ponyo]

Originally posted by: dawheat

Originally posted by: Naustica
7:38 reported by Edmunds was supposedly 3 weeks ago. Motortrend is reporting 7:35 run today. If these reports turn out accurate, I give mad props to Nissan engineers. I'm going to start saving my pennies.

There was some talk about Nissan bolting on R-compound tires and tweaking the turbo boost to make it not exactly production equivilent to hit those times.

If a bone stock base GT-R is hitting those times, good fricking gracious. If a base GT-R with slicks and turbo boost maxed out for that lap is hitting that time, its still a good time but not as impressive.

I agree. Based on reported HP and weight, I have to be believe Nissan is cheating. But nothing is official yet so we'll just have to wait and see.

 

[DarkThinker]

Ehhhhh...I am no expert on the topic but I know Japanese super cars that retail for $80k barely sell outside Japan w.r.t their European counterparts. It's a niche market and not many people would be willing to blow that much money on a Japanese rocket, not that they are bad, but the status is not quiet there,

I think this car is badass to the max, but really what I see happening is Nissan hyping the car up for like ETERNITY! No change that to INFINITY!

Then what? They cash in on all the hype for $80K+ no thank you, shave $25k off, then maybe.

I'd rather see myself in a Hamann M6.

But then again to each his own.


BTW the concept was much better looking, why?

 

[Aikouka]

Originally posted by: SithSolo1
You are kidding yourself if you think these are going to go down in price.

You just crushed my dream .

Originally posted by: DarkThinker
Ehhhhh...I am no expert on the topic but I know Japanese super cars that retail for $80k barely sell outside Japan w.r.t their European counterparts. It's a niche market and not many people would be willing to blow that much money on a Japanese rocket, not that they are bad, but the status is not quiet there,

I can definitely understand that. The original GT-R sold for around 35k and it served as an affordable sports car that performed very well on the track.

 

[RKS]

I won't pay over retail and from what I have heard Nissan will implement methods to stop dealer gouging. The GT-R will also only be offered by select dealerships that will abide by a special service program for the GT-R.

I hope to be in position to buy a nice car within the next few years and this is definately on my shortlist. If I even mention a Corvette, and since my wife doesn't care about Z06, ZR-1, or other variations, she cringes. If I mention a used 997 TT she doesn't mind but a Corvette would take a lot of convincing.

 

[Aimster]

They should sell this car at Infiniti dealerships.

have any of you ever been to a Nissan dealerships? bunch of scumbag salespeople. Worst experience ever. Bunch of thugs really.

Maybe it's because they can't sell cars and they are dying to feed their kids that they have to attack you to buy their cars.

 

[ponyo]

Originally posted by: RKS
I won't pay over retail and from what I have heard Nissan will implement methods to stop dealer gouging. The GT-R will also only be offered by select dealerships that will abide by a special service program for the GT-R.

I hope to be in position to buy a nice car within the next few years and this is definately on my shortlist. If I even mention a Corvette, and since my wife doesn't care about Z06, ZR-1, or other variations, she cringes. If I mention a used 997 TT she doesn't mind but a Corvette would take a lot of convincing.

I don't think you're going to have to worry about dealer markup if you're talking about few years. By then all the gotta have early adopters will have already bought the car so demand should be soft. Nissan is going to have a hard time moving $80k sports car after the initial hype dies down.

 

[DarkThinker]

Originally posted by: Aimster
They should sell this car at Infiniti dealerships.

have any of you ever been to a Nissan dealerships? bunch of scumbag salespeople. Worst experience ever. Bunch of thugs really.

Maybe it's because they can't sell cars and they are dying to feed their kids that they have to attack you to buy their cars.

Come on Aimster, don't generalize things here, it would be more helpful if you told us which specific dealership to avoid

 

[thomsbrain]

jesus, I didn't think it was possible for Nissan to make something even uglier than the Armada. I was wrong.

 

[Aikouka]

Originally posted by: Aimster
They should sell this car at Infiniti dealerships.

have any of you ever been to a Nissan dealerships? bunch of scumbag salespeople. Worst experience ever. Bunch of thugs really.

Maybe it's because they can't sell cars and they are dying to feed their kids that they have to attack you to buy their cars.

I had a pleasant time at the Nissan dealership when I bought my Altima.

 

[Billy Idol]

I'm quite disappointed with the styling.. wish I hadn't noticed the thread. The back half seems to keep in tradition with previous GTRs and looks typically sedan-like, but the front fascia best resembles a catfish. Additionally, I realize the interiors are BUSY on these things but DAAAAAAMN. I can't wait to see the bastardized-knobs-are-still-RHD US version.

AWD or no I'm skeptical to believe these purported specs will best a Z06 'round the ring. The Chevy is hindered a bit by the lame runflats and behind the times notchy manual it comes saddled with, but 6-700lbs is an awful lot to pay for some better all-weather traction and two seats that will never become wrinkled.

Porsche racing heritage heh. Since Group 5 what relevant racing has Porsche done? Nissan's domination of IMSA from 88-90 is more relevant to me than anything out of Stuttgart in the last 25+ years.

 

[ponyo]

7:38 time attack video

Car Magazine first ride

NISSAN ANNOUNCES NEW NISSAN GT-R
- New Dimensional Multi-Performance Supercar Available in Early December ?

TOKYO (Oct. 24, 2007) - Nissan Motor Co., Ltd., today announced the launch of the Nissan GT-R, a new multi-dimensional performance machine that lives up to the concept of ?an ultimate supercar for anyone, anywhere, at anytime?. The Nissan GT-R features a newly developed Premium Midship package, including the world?s first independent transaxle 4WD developed independently by Nissan. The Nissan GT-R will be available in Japan mainly through Nissan High Performance Centers nationwide from December 6th.

The Nissan GT-R was developed with a new understanding and appreciation of the Earth?s natural forces ? gravity, inertial force and aerodynamics ? and translates those forces into a completely new design, maximizing tire grip and airflow.

Basic vehicle dynamics and integration with the driver have also been examined, resulting in new componentry and creating a Human-Machine Interface (HMI) never seen before in the marketplace. All of these theories have been integrated to balance ?speed and efficiency,? ?high-output with environmental consideration? and ?high performance and safety.?

Taking these factors into account, Nissan created the all-new Nissan GT-R, which offers advanced high performance for secure and enjoyable driving by minimizing the effects of climatic, road condition or driving technique limitations. The Nissan GT-R offers ultimate performance for virtually every driving situation ? whether it be the Nurburgring circuit, to snow, rain or urban areas ? all manageable by the GT-R driver through advanced technology and driving dynamics.

The Nissan GT-R?s unique characteristics are instilled not just in the vehicle?s design, but also through a specialized production process. Carbon fiber, aluminum and steel components are assembled with a special high-precision process, which includes a series of vibration tests. Engines and transmissions are assembled by a single craftsman in a ?clean room? environment and upon completion, every GT-R undergoes a battery of comprehensive tests to ensure the proper operation of all vehicle components.

To properly support the all-new GT-R, Nissan has established special Nissan High Performance Centers, where all certified advisors and technicians have received extensive training. Total support for the GT-R owner is offered for the first three years of ownership, including measurement and adjustment of the engine, transmission and wheel alignment after the first 1000 km, and again every 12 months, free of charge.

Packaging and Driveline Suited for a Supercar
The all-new Nissan GT-R uses a Premium Midship package, an all-new, more advanced version Front Midship (FM) package utilized on other Nissan vehicles. This new package enables the use of the world?s first application of an independent transaxle 4WD system. The transaxle?s layout places the dual-clutch transmission, transfer case and final drive at the rear of the vehicle (instead of the usual front location), which enables vehicle weight to be evenly distributed throughout the car. This gives the Nissan GT-R a superb front-to-rear weight balance, while enhancing leg and foot space and allowing for an optimal pedal layout.

Under the hood, the Nissan GT-R features an all-new 3.8-litre twin turbo V6 ?VR38? engine, featuring plasma-sprayed bores and a special twin-turbo exhaust manifold system. A secondary air management system enables the newly designed powerplant to provide approximately 40kg/m of torque during ordinary low-rev driving, which gives an optimum air-fuel ratio for around-town efficiency and helps the Nissan GT-R meet ultra-low emission vehicle (U-LEV) standards in Japan.

The Nissan GT-R?s new engine produces 480PS (353kW) at 6400rpm and maximum torque of 60kgm (588Nm) from 3200 to 5200rpm. Putting the power to the ground is an all-new GR6-type dual clutch transmission, with paddle shifting and a Borg Warner six-plate dual clutch for direct control.

Suspension duties are handled through a special Bilstein DampTronic*1 system, which utilizes all pertinent vehicle information to provide appropriate damping forces for all situations and helps maintain a high level of control for straight-line driving, cornering, and braking.

Braking is essential for a daily-driven supercar and the GT-R features large Brembo full-floating drilled rotors, low steel high stiffness brake pads and Brembo mono block six-piston front and four-piston rear calipers, which in combination minimize fade and provide stable braking. Run-flat tires, exclusively designed for use on the Nissan GT-R, balance high grip and all-weather capabilities and a comfortable ride in all driving situations. The tires are designed to maintain structure for 80km of travel at 80 km/h, while still providing an acceptable level of performance.

High-Performance Safety and Environmental Technologies
The Nissan GT-R offers a long list of safety and environmental features, including, for enhanced visibility inside and out of the vehicle, high-mounted LED stoplamps, bright LED rear combination taillights, ?super wide beam? headlights, heated door mirrors and flat-blade wipers.

Standard safety equipment includes a pop-up engine hood system for enhanced pedestrian safety, driver and front passenger SRS Air Bag System, ELR front seat belts with tension reducer, front seat belts with load limiter, and three-point ELR rear seat belts. Driver and front passenger SRS Side Air Bag System and SRS Curtain Air Bag System are offered as options.

Environmental technologies include extensive work to create an U-LEV certification in Japan for the 3.8-liter twin turbo engine and reduced levels of volatile organic compound for materials used in the car.

Functional Design ? High Performance Aerodynamics and Style
The Nissan GT-R?s styling follows the function over form theory. Every styling aspect, from the overall design to the smallest details, is created to maximize the vehicle?s driving experience ? as well as suggesting GT-R?s ?supercar? level of performance. Utilizing advanced aerodynamics, the Nissan GT-R?s aggressive styling evokes the lines of a well-trained athlete, combining strong character lines with smooth and solid areas.

The all-new GT-R?s body is created with a combination of steel, carbon fiber and aluminum, providing a unique combination of stiffness and lightness. The Nissan GT-R features a low coefficient of drag of 0.27, with high front and rear downforce, which provides the GT-R with enhanced grip in all weather situations, while also enhancing fuel efficiency.

The front fenders express power and stability, while the ?aero-blades? on the fenders? leading edges provide optimum airflow around the tires and along the body. The scoop in the fenders? trailing edges assists in providing front downforce and optimization of side airflow. The aggressive front end, with a large hood budge and single air intake, provides a sophisticated style as well as undisturbed airflow for power and cooling. New ?super wide beam? headlights feature three additional sub-reflectors (compared to conventional lights) to give a wider spread to the illumination area.

The Nissan GT-R?s large, four-passenger cabin features a sloping ?aero blade canopy? roofline and curved C-pillar ?sword edge,? which expresses the distinctive GT-R identity, as well as facilitating air flow around the rear of the vehicle. The GT-R?s hallmark four-ring taillights, efficient rear spoiler and large, integrated f120 exhaust tips, provides the signature rear view of the GT-R, as well as optimizing airflow along the top and under the vehicle.

The high level of advanced technology is evident even in the Nissan GT-R?s paint ? which utilizes a ?double clear coat? and ?anti-chipping? process. The Nissan GT-R features Ultimate Silver as a special new color, which is painstakingly hand-polished by craftsman.

An Interior Suitable for Daily Driving or Supercar Duties
Key to the Nissan GT-R?s usability as a both daily driver and a high-performance supercar is its interior, which is designed to balance functionality, a sense of ease, and comfort.

Sculpted performance bucket seats give the driver and passenger a comfortable driving experience, and soft pads are utilized on the dash in front of the passenger and doors to give an extra level of comfort and safety.

The instrument panel surrounds the driver, with all meters and multi-function meter at a uniform height to minimize the driver?s head movement when traveling at high speeds. A large center-mounted tachometer, with gear display on its upper right, as well as the easy-to-read graphics of the display, gives the driver instant detailed information, essential for the performance nature of the GT-R.

Functional style is also evident in the Nissan GT-R ? each meter features a dial plate design that evokes the idea of engaged gears, as well as a three-dimensional metal-like ring, suggesting the multi-dimensional performance of the GT-R. A large, metallic-framed center console features the ergonomically designed shift lever and a red ?engine start? button.

Adjustability is central to the daily-driver nature of the Nissan GT-R, with a special ?set-up switch? located in the center of the instrument panel. This switch enables the driver to adjust transmission shifts, shock absorbers and the Vehicle Dynamic Control (VDC-R) in three settings ? Normal, Comfort or R, the high-performance setting designed for the Nissan GT-R ?supercar? application.

A high-speed, high-capacity CARWINGS (Japan market) navigation system, with a powerful 30GB hard disk drive, features an easy-to-use touch pad, as well as traditional navigation switches. The screen interface features not only the navigation system, but also an enriched entertainment system with a Music Box hard drive, DVD and CD player, and Bluetooth® *2 audio function.

For special use in the GT-R application, the multi-function meter also includes mechanical and driving information for safe high performance driving, including acceleration opening, brake pedal pressure, and steering angle. It also includes an ?optimal gearshift map,? to emphasize economical vehicle operation.

A specially designed BOSE sound system includes two forward-facing woofers in the rear center armrest area combined with traditional door speakers. All speakers are mounted in rigid aluminum die cast panels, which combined with the design of the system itself, provide sound quality suitable for a supercar.

Pricing and Sales Target
200 units / month

Drivetrain Engine Grade Transmission Price (yen, Consumption tax included)

GT-R GR6-type dual 7,770,000
4WD VR38DETT GT-R Black edition clutch 7,927,500
GT-R Premium edition transmittion 8,347,500

 

[Aikouka]

Originally posted by: Naustica
The tires are designed to maintain structure for 80km of travel at 80 km/h, while still providing an acceptable level of performance.

Could someone explain this? Is ~50 miles at ~50mph a good thing?

Originally posted by: Naustica
A specially designed BOSE sound system includes two forward-facing woofers in the rear center armrest area combined with traditional door speakers. All speakers are mounted in rigid aluminum die cast panels, which combined with the design of the system itself, provide sound quality suitable for a supercar.

Ugh, the BOSE system in my Altima isn't good at all. I can't even put down my windows for some relaxing late night driving without hearing my speakers crackle because of the wind. Never had that problem with other cars and it's quite disappointing.

 

[RKS]

Originally posted by: Aikouka

Originally posted by: Naustica
The tires are designed to maintain structure for 80km of travel at 80 km/h, while still providing an acceptable level of performance.

Could someone explain this? Is ~50 miles at ~50mph a good thing?

Enough distance and speed to get you to a garage/tire store to get replacement tires. I didn't read the article but I assume they are talking about run-flats.

Ugh, the BOSE system in my Altima isn't good at all. I can't even put down my windows for some relaxing late night driving without hearing my speakers crackle because of the wind. Never had that problem with other cars and it's quite disappointing.

I have had a few Nissans with BOSE systems; they all suck for the premium that they charge. That said, if I had the GT-R, I would have the windows down so I could hear the motor not the stereo.

 

[Aikouka]

Originally posted by: RKS
Enough distance and speed to get you to a garage/tire store to get replacement tires. I didn't read the article but I assume they are talking about run-flats.

Ahh thanks, I completely forgot about them mentioning that the tires were specially designed run-flats.

Originally posted by: RKS
I have had a few Nissans with BOSE systems; they all suck for the premium that they charge. That said, if I had the GT-R, I would have the windows down so I could hear the motor not the stereo.

Hah, I think you're right on the engine comment .

 

[Kelvrick]

Originally posted by: Aikouka

Originally posted by: RKS
Enough distance and speed to get you to a garage/tire store to get replacement tires. I didn't read the article but I assume they are talking about run-flats.

Ahh thanks, I completely forgot about them mentioning that the tires were specially designed run-flats.

Originally posted by: RKS
I have had a few Nissans with BOSE systems; they all suck for the premium that they charge. That said, if I had the GT-R, I would have the windows down so I could hear the motor not the stereo.

Hah, I think you're right on the engine comment .

So... Manufacturers should have an "engine" button to where the car pulls the engine noise in? Kinda like, radio, cd, sat, engine?

 

[shabby]

I just hope theres a sensor in the run flat tires that tells you that its flat, otherwise the only indication you will have is when you loose traction when your gunning it around a track.
But other then that... gimme gimme gimme!

 

[ponyo]

Originally posted by: shabby
I just hope theres a sensor in the run flat tires that tells you that its flat, otherwise the only indication you will have is when you loose traction when your gunning it around a track.
But other then that... gimme gimme gimme!

Yeah, there's a sensor that tells you each tire pressure and gives warning if you're too high, low, or uneven. Corvette was the first regular production car to have run flat tires as an option back in 1994. You can drive for at least 100 miles at 50 mph with a complete flat tire. It's nice not having to carry a spare tire but you pay for it with increased tire cost, poorer performance, and limited tire selection.

 

[KDKPSJ]

Originally posted by: shabby
I just hope theres a sensor in the run flat tires that tells you that its flat, otherwise the only indication you will have is when you loose traction when your gunning it around a track.
But other then that... gimme gimme gimme!

Actually, this day, all the cars with RFT as standard have TPMS as standard. And also, TPMS has become pretty much standard to all brands recently anyway. (And yes, they do work well. At least Honda's did and BMW's does)