Reverse racism in the IT workplace...

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steppinthrax

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I disagree, until they learn the culture here and they change. Machine, obedience only happen when they are new in this country. Once they learn the ways here they adapt which happens in 2 to 3 years. I would be in my best behavior too if I dont want to lose my good life here.

Many choose never to learn the culture. They simply are bull-headed and choose not to be assimilated and try to overlay their beliefs and standards within the American culture. In some cases this results in incompatibilities (as the OP is indicating).
 

ultimatebob

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Contact the EEOC, then sue them.

That would be awesome if he could pull it off. He would probably also be the first white guy (outside of professional sports) that has ever sued a minority ran company for race discrimination.

Perhaps he can get Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson to show up at his press interview as well
 

eng2d2

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Many choose never to learn the culture. They simply are bull-headed and choose not to be assimilated and try to overlay their beliefs and standards within the American culture. In some cases this results in incompatibilities (as the OP is indicating).

They learn and observe but can still be bullheaded. Ultimately the goal is to get the dollar, uproot and be patient until goal is reached. Will see more of this type of behavior like the OP describe.

Anyone can work like a machine if you throw them a bone or incentive. In this case more money than they will ever make back home and better environment. Give that type of incentive to people like OP they will work hard too.
 
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Childs

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This kinda happened at a place I worked at a few jobs ago. The company hired an Indian manager and he seemed to hire nothing but Indians after that. He tended to hire inexperienced or entry level and train them up. He wasn't an ahole or anything. In fact he was a good manager and actually pushed to have me move up in the company. We still reconnect every couple of years.

I dunno, it does seem like Indians tend to hire Indians first, but I guess a manager of any race, when all things being equal or close enough, would probably hire their own race. Unless they are self loathing and just want to please the man!
 
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cbrunny

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lol just because white people are discriminated against doesn't make it "reverse" racism. It's still just racism.

Also OP,

Not a single non-Indian was treated this way; only the Americans or Hispanics were treated this way. I was the last non-Indian left on the team by the time I quit. Now, every single person is Indian...

I think you mean

Not a single Indian was treated this way; only the Americans or Hispanics were treated this way.....
 

torpid

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Wow. That's a lot less subtle than I normally see. What I normally see is slowly reducing pay and benefits and increasing work hours and expectations until you get to a point where only someone who is desperate for anything that will let them remain in the country on their work visa would agree. Usually this means hiring from a company that hires through another company that hires through another company and so forth until you get to the poor indian dude who doesn't want to be deported who is making $5/hr and whose resume is 500 pages of bullet points describing the very basic things someone would be expected to do (e.g. fixed bugs)
 

inachu

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I was hired once at a housing mapping company to be the main source for all home images but I think they are failing at it now but at the time they were hot stuff and these two hot girls were into me and it was around that time I just started learning Japanese so I wanted to be committed to learning Japanese 24/7 and those 2 girls felt like I could not be manipulated.

Another white guy like me shook my hands for not hitting on them so he could have a chance at it.
Then one of the older ladies wanted her pretty daughter to work there for the summer and Nobody in IT could get the company software to work on the pc no matter what they tried.

The entire IT dept laughed at me.... HEHEHEEHHAHAHAH! THat guy(ME) will never be able to get it installed.
Well to teach the girls basics about computers and hardware I told her about the 386 32bit enhanced button and I clicked it on and put in the software and it worked like a charm with our software.

The new hire blonde ran to the IT manager and said she got it working and not me and so the blonde got the praise and I was kicked out the door.
 

inachu

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Another time I was hired just so I could be fired.

This IT dept needed a scapegoat. THE CFO needed to blame a techie for locking up the novell 3.1 server and on novell there are no admin passwords or backdoors or resets.

In the same data room I was told to perform the data backups from tape to 386 computers so the insurance data can be update to the modern database.

I was also told not to touch the novell server and I never did but alas was told they are letting me go because of the CFO who lied to get me fired.
Turns out the CFO did many bad things in the company.
 

FelixDeCat

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Another time I was hired just so I could be fired.

This IT dept needed a scapegoat. THE CFO needed to blame a techie for locking up the novell 3.1 server and on novell there are no admin passwords or backdoors or resets.

In the same data room I was told to perform the data backups from tape to 386 computers so the insurance data can be update to the modern database.

I was also told not to touch the novell server and I never did but alas was told they are letting me go because of the CFO who lied to get me fired.
Turns out the CFO did many bad things in the company.


whistle blower lawsuit

 

slugg

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Honestly they are...

Unfortunately, they tend to have a stronger work ethic and develop some very elegant code. They show to work every day on the dot and never bitch about increases poor working conditions etc. They are like machines. They do however tend to make much less money. Many of them I find are on H-1 visa, they come here with their spouse. The company they work for sponsor them (which is the reason for the obedience). Then once they get the GC they are out. It may take 6 - 10 years for them to get a GC. Being in the US is a godsend for many because India has a high population of Underemployed (high education low occupation). I believe they have the highest pop of college degree. You have people with PhDs sweeping the fucking floors in India.

Not my experience. My experience is that they produce garbage code that only barely works, if you're lucky. There are exceptions, but crap quality is the norm. Also, the rigor of an Indian school is laughable compared to what we have here. Hell, they teach their students to intentionally plagiarize work. Yep.

I understand this comes off as labeling, but I blame the culture and education system. Yes, many people in India have degrees, but they are *not* equivalent to our university systems here.
 

torpid

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Not my experience. My experience is that they produce garbage code that only barely works, if you're lucky. There are exceptions, but crap quality is the norm. Also, the rigor of an Indian school is laughable compared to what we have here. Hell, they teach their students to intentionally plagiarize work. Yep.

I understand this comes off as labeling, but I blame the culture and education system. Yes, many people in India have degrees, but they are *not* equivalent to our university systems here.

Aren't they teaching it correctly if they are teaching to copy someone else's work? That is what most programmers do these days.
 

Midwayman

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My wife's manager is in the process of doing exactly this. Hiring incompetents and driving all the employees from a top performing group out.
 

steppinthrax

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There is abs nothing wrong with copying code!!! Many do it all the time. Why spend the time re-inventing the wheel when someone already has a tested and proofed solution. The issue is when you are copying code and don't have a clear understanding on what the code does.... Or if you are copying code in a academic setting.

Now if you are building a enterprise based system and you do this it will be f----ed up in no time.
 

GobBluth

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I used to work for a black guy who called me a "N" a lot... and not like Denzel in Training Day... just would throw it out there like "Whats up "N""..... I'm white.
 

Hugo Drax

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Honestly they are...

Unfortunately, they tend to have a stronger work ethic and develop some very elegant code. They show to work every day on the dot and never bitch about increases poor working conditions etc. They are like machines. They do however tend to make much less money. Many of them I find are on H-1 visa, they come here with their spouse. The company they work for sponsor them (which is the reason for the obedience). Then once they get the GC they are out. It may take 6 - 10 years for them to get a GC. Being in the US is a godsend for many because India has a high population of Underemployed (high education low occupation). I believe they have the highest pop of college degree. You have people with PhDs sweeping the fucking floors in India.

Don't Worry, In America you will be seeing PHD's sweeping floors in the future as well.
 
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