Can you please expand what you mean by "the book was written by two people who already had a set viewpoint." First of all, it's a paper not a book. Second of all, you're discrediting their arguments by attacking their motives. That's fallacious reasoning. I can tell you're unwilling to change your mind by the very fact you're not even willing to address their arguments. Instead, you're saying "let's wait for someone to disprove it." Do you even realize that there's is a review of all other studies? This is not an original experiment that you have to wait for someone to replicate the experiment. You should be embarassed to say something like "that's how science works" when you employ irrational arguments (attacking the motives) in the very same post.
Let me try to make this more clear, there's no point talking to you about this unless you want to actually read the linked text and point out specific flaws in it. You're basically saying, "I don't believe it even though I don't know what it says." Don't you realize how idiotic that is?
So you don't think their obvious bias and the history behind the paper matter?! You're the one who should be embarrassed.
I never said reducing poverty is a bad goal. (This is exactly why you're not worth having a serious discussion with.)
Let's pass a law that states everyone regardless of education and skill level must be paid the same wage. Doctors, lawyers, trash collector, bag boy, hair dresser, burger filpper.........that should work out just fine. Hell, while we're at it might as pay couch potatoes the same minimum wage to watch TV, surf the internet, and play video games.
Why take the time to get a degree if you can get a living wage for stocking shelves and bagging groceries?
So you're ok if a bag boy is paid the same wage as you while your wage is unchanged??
Quoting myself:
How is it a misrepresentation? You oppose the minimum wage, not to mention living wage. You believe that a certain caste of Americans, doing certain types of job, should be able to make below a living wage in exchange for doing those vital jobs.
So you're ok if a bag boy is paid the same wage as you while your wage is unchanged??
I think reducing poverty is a fine goal for someone to have. You said I was against reducing poverty and were lying in doing so. I'm opposed to the minimum wage. It is possible to be opposed to the minimum wage and yet think reducing poverty is a fine goal for someone to have. It's really that simple. Again, have the decency not to misrepresent my arguments. I'm not sure what you hope to get out of it.
Sure. Why should I be upset that a bag boy toiling away at a boring job gets paid the same as me?
You may be for "reducing poverty"
So your education and experience is worth nothing?
Stopped reading there. You had said I wasn't so you either lied before or were being stupid. Please stop being childish.
And once again, I have to ask, why are you trying to engage me? What do you hope to get out of all this? It seems like there's plenty of other people that think it's worth the time to have a discussion with you.
Go back and read my post. I said:
So much for the War on Poverty.... Poverty is apparently not even considered an evil to be eliminated anymore, at least not by the economists and Infohawk.
You do NOT want to eliminate poverty. You believe that people working menial jobs must make less than a living wage. The only way you can think it's acceptable to pay less than living wage, while also wanting to eliminate poverty, is if you think menial jobs don't need to exist.
So your education and experience is worth nothing?
Looks like this thread has descended into the realm of strawmen and slippery slopes.
You don't get to tell me what I do or do not want. You can criticize my arguments but it's utterly useless and fallacious to criticize my intentions.
Again, why are you trying to debate this topic with me?
Stopped reading there. You had said I wasn't so you either lied before or were being stupid. Please stop being childish.
And once again, I have to ask, why are you trying to engage me? What do you hope to get out of all this? It seems like there's plenty of other people that think it's worth the time to have a discussion with you.
Why do you keep asking why I'm "trying to debate with you"? You sound like a dweller trying to appear intellectual or something. Get over yourself. You're making arguments and I'm arguing with you. That's what people do on forums.