Revolution already sucks (TV SHOW)

[Newbian]

There would be tons of guns lying around. Even if most of the ammo got used, if they can make percussion caps and black powder for their muzzle loaders, they could make brass cartridges. The brass is even reusable, they wouldn't even have to make more. Cartridges were invented before they use of electricity.

It might not be as easy as that if a lot of the guns got damaged as I don't think it would be easy to repair modern guns with no electricity also or a lot of the skilled people that knew how could had been killed.

Remember we are talking about 15 years no electricity and probably a lot of battles during that time as it probably took years for the militia to gain power in that area and there are multiple "sectors" with a different government / military force in the states alone it sounded like.

Also those in charge do not want people other then the trusted ones to have use of such weapons or you could end up with the risk of people fighting back much easier.

Why else do you think they made such a deal they did over getting one gun and even large parts of the militia doesn't have them or use old guns.

 

[DAGTA]

It might not be as easy as that if a lot of the guns got damaged as I don't think it would be easy to repair modern guns with no electricity also or a lot of the skilled people that knew how could had been killed.

Remember we are talking about 15 years no electricity and probably a lot of battles during that time as it probably took years for the militia to gain power in that area and there are multiple "sectors" with a different government / military force in the states alone it sounded like.

Also those in charge do not want people other then the trusted ones to have use of such weapons or you could end up with the risk of people fighting back much easier.

Why else do you think they made such a deal they did over getting one gun and even large parts of the militia doesn't have them or use old guns.

Maybe

or it could just be that it's a terrible show.

 

[BladeVenom]

It might not be as easy as that if a lot of the guns got damaged as I don't think it would be easy to repair modern guns with no electricity also or a lot of the skilled people that knew how could had been killed.

Remember we are talking about 15 years no electricity...

15 years is nothing for a gun. Most of my guns are older than 15 years.

You know what's a popular rifle right now? The Mosin-Nagants, which Russia made from 1891 to 1965. Most were made for WWII. They made 37 million of them, and most survived the wars.

You don't need electricity to fix a gun. Spare parts help, but almost everything can be done with simple hand tools.

Since the majority of the population seems to have died off in the show, there would be far more guns left than people.

 

[kyrax12]

Anyone think that the Monroe forces aren't going to be the main badguys for much longer. I remember in the beginning that there were more larger factions that aim for control of the entire country.

 

[Printer Bandit]

 

[Newbian]

Maybe

or it could just be that it's a terrible show.

No one said it wasn't but with how little they have shown of what happened during those 15 years we are just tossing guesses really.

 

[Newbian]

15 years is nothing for a gun. Most of my guns are older than 15 years.

You know what's a popular rifle right now? The Mosin-Nagants, which Russia made from 1891 to 1965. Most were made for WWII. They made 37 million of them, and most survived the wars.

You don't need electricity to fix a gun. Spare parts help, but almost everything can be done with simple hand tools.

Since the majority of the population seems to have died off in the show, there would be far more guns left than people.

How many of them survive 10+ years of what could had been constant fighting with little means of fixing them?

As it was said they are probably stockpiling a lot of the better guns for future battles with the other provinces or in current battles with them and what we are seeing now is simply what's left to keep the population under control and they are using what is left over to do that.

 

[Newbian]

Dammit...Texas at least come up with a better name.

 

[davmat787]

Please tell me you are joking. So much fail in what you wrote above. Most pilots have hundreds to thousands of hours hand flying airplanes before they even think of sitting in the right seat of an airliner. They most definitely know how to "actually fly the plane". What do you think they spend all that time doing in those simulators anyway? Its sure as heck is not flying along in cruise with the autopilot on.

Trust me on this one...I'm the guy sitting up front.

WiredNuts probably does not even know the glide ratio of a 747, or rather, that an airliner even has one and what it means. Anyway, when the power went off and at the same time aircraft are in flat spin free falls Top Gun style, WHILE ON FIRE, you know it would take more than a simple electrical failure to induce that.

Like something catastrophic that changed the aerodynamics so suddenly and so much differently, that you would guess an explosion.

WiredNuts, you should read up on the United Airlines DC-10 crash at Sioux City. I think that was late 80's or early 90's.

 

[Newbian]

Sounds like steam power does work as there are steam ships but they either got destroyed or the militia has them and a train in next weeks episode.

 

[waggy]

How many of them survive 10+ years of what could had been constant fighting with little means of fixing them?

As it was said they are probably stockpiling a lot of the better guns for future battles with the other provinces or in current battles with them and what we are seeing now is simply what's left to keep the population under control and they are using what is left over to do that.

my guess is a good amount survived. it is not hard to fix a gun.

the show is stupid and unbelievable. the fact that there are so many damn muskets but no more modern guns? ugh

 

[Paul98]

This show is just stupid, these explanations of how or why this world happens are idiotic.

Plus the rest of the show isn't any good ether, I had a hard time finishing the first episode tried to watch the second but couldn't make myself.

For new shows so far I really like Last Resort.

 

[Gibsons]

my guess is a good amount survived. it is not hard to fix a gun.

the show is stupid and unbelievable. the fact that there are so many damn muskets but no more modern guns? ugh

hm. Is it really easier to build an entire musket from scratch than it is to build a few spare parts for a modern firearm? A spring would be difficult to make by hand I guess, but not all rifles necessarily need one. There are millions of bolt action rifles out there too. Ammo would could be difficult.

Otoh, you can power a factory with steam, then you can make pretty modern firearms and probably ammo on a mass scale.

 

[mugs]

That explains why there are so few modern guns - Texas and the Georgia Federation have all of them.

(Seriously, I think the lack of modern guns has more to do with inability to manufacture ammunition for them)

 

[Imp]

Shit, someone died fast.

 

[Newbian]

my guess is a good amount survived. it is not hard to fix a gun.

the show is stupid and unbelievable. the fact that there are so many damn muskets but no more modern guns? ugh

They are modern guns but as it says in the show they are stockpiled and I am guessing used where it's important and not as heavily used to simply maintain the peace.

 

[Kadarin]

The "California Commonwealth" is probably fucked, since here in CA we have to by law significantly gimp our guns to comply with overly liberal laws.

 

[kyrax12]

The "California Commonwealth" is probably fucked, since here in CA we have to by law significantly gimp our guns to comply with overly liberal laws.

Well I wouldn't go as far as to say they are "fucked"

They do have a wasteland as a buffer zone from all the other territories.

 

[13Gigatons]

The sad thing the show could have been pretty cool if they had thought it through a few more times.

Make the disaster more realistic.
Show the 15 years of fighting.
Dump all the cheesy characters.

 

[lupi]

Guess this means mr google will have to stay as part of the group for now. And now that they've lost the medical expert, expect to see that as part of a future episode.

 

[oznerol]

I just don't understand why, because of a global power outage, we were sent back to medieval times. Why not, at the very least, the industrial age?

Is there no more lightning? Static electricity? Do electrons just cease to exist?

I know I shouldn't expect any scientific explanations - it is a JJ Abrams show after all. Still, I find it enjoyable for what it is.

 

[rsutoratosu]

you would think stuff with batteries still worked, ie the iphone, but it doesn't.. it just shuts down w/o that neckless.. so its something else thats causing equipment not to work..

 

[FirewolfX]

This show is pretty much an updated version of The Postman.

 

[mugs]

I know I shouldn't expect any scientific explanations - it is a JJ Abrams show after all. Still, I find it enjoyable for what it is.

Yeah, that's why I don't get why people are harping on the lack of realism. Did anyone watch Lost after the first season?

Admittedly I got a little frustrated with the direction Lost took in later seasons, but Revolution hasn't strayed nearly as far from reality (yet).

The main reason I'm watching the show is because the story interests me... same as Jericho. And Lost. I want to know what is unknown. I'm willing to give it time to improve (more time than I gave that time travel/dinosaur show).

 

[Newbian]

you would think stuff with batteries still worked, ie the iphone, but it doesn't.. it just shuts down w/o that neckless.. so its something else thats causing equipment not to work..

They have said it has to be something man made doing it to cause this so it must be ongoing.