RIAA is trying to sue allofmp3.com for $1.65 TRILLION

[waggy]

finally they can get those thieves!

maybe this is good news. im sure they have enough money to fight it.

 

[alexkim804]

they should pay the RIAA in microsoft live points

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
ITS OVER 9,000!!!

hhahahahaaa

 

[mwtgg]

Originally posted by: ntdz
He copy/pasted it from a site, probably the CIA factbook. That's how they list it, it's in trillions.

Actually, he quoted Wikipedia, and Atheus is right, the World's GDP of only $44.5m should have tipped you off.

 

[Minjin]

Could they somehow block that website at the borders of the nation? Or at least monitor its traffic? The way I'm thinking is lets say Joey Bagadonuts goes down to Mexico to buy some drugs. The DEA isn't going to bust the Mexicans for selling the drugs. They're going to bust Joey for trying to bring them back across the border. So what I'm wondering is if we might get to the technological equivalent of that.

 

[EKKC]

is RIAA run by Dr. Evil?

"eleven... trillion... dollars. and i want sharks with friggin laser beams."

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Minjin
Could they somehow block that website at the borders of the nation? Or at least monitor its traffic? The way I'm thinking is lets say Joey Bagadonuts goes down to Mexico to buy some drugs. The DEA isn't going to bust the Mexicans for selling the drugs. They're going to bust Joey for trying to bring them back across the border. So what I'm wondering is if we might get to the technological equivalent of that.

The "problem" (from the RIAA's perspective) with Allofmp3.com is that US copyright law says that if you legally obtain a copyrighted work in another country, you can legally bring that work into the US. The Internet adds some complication - if a user in the US downloads a song from Russia, where did the transaction occur?

 

[TheWart]

Originally posted by: Minjin
Could they somehow block that website at the borders of the nation? Or at least monitor its traffic? The way I'm thinking is lets say Joey Bagadonuts goes down to Mexico to buy some drugs. The DEA isn't going to bust the Mexicans for selling the drugs. They're going to bust Joey for trying to bring them back across the border. So what I'm wondering is if we might get to the technological equivalent of that.

Like the great firewall of china? Sounds like a very dangerous precedent for US ISP's if they agree to do that.

 

[compuwiz1]

Originally posted by: Minjin
Could they somehow block that website at the borders of the nation? Or at least monitor its traffic? The way I'm thinking is lets say Joey Bagadonuts goes down to Mexico to buy some drugs. The DEA isn't going to bust the Mexicans for selling the drugs. They're going to bust Joey for trying to bring them back across the border. So what I'm wondering is if we might get to the technological equivalent of that.

Sure, it's called disconnect the internet for everyone. As long as computers and servers have a way to communicate, this will be like the war on drugs. They cannot stop it.

 

[Cooler]

Originally posted by: alexkim804
they should pay the RIAA in microsoft live points

Great idea! Better yet pay them monopoly money. They might be able to buy enough sets to have 1.65 trillion.

 

[postmortemIA]

No wonder USA-Russia relations are going down the toilet. Classic example of arm twisting by the stronger.

 

[AndrewR]

Every time I see some more garbage from the RIAA like this, it makes me want to go download some songs. I actually didn't pirate any songs until they started suing individuals for downloading, then I installed Bearshare and grabbed a few hundred. I guess I have to find a client and find some more songs.

 

[Arglebargle]

Originally posted by: EKKC
is RIAA run by Dr. Evil?

"eleven... trillion... dollars. and i want sharks with friggin laser beams."

Yes, Timmy, the RIAA is indeed run by Dr. Evil. Just ask most musicians who have had business dealings in the music industry. They are concentrated evil! Don't touch 'em.

The industry is shot through with the corrupt and crooked. These guys are still using antiquated methods of accounting to rob musicians blind. There's a breakage clause in most contracts based on the number of shellac records lost in production. This is applied to the production of CDs. They still use formula based on 1920's jukeboxes. The RIAA probably still gets a small percentage on the sale of each blank CD. It goes on and on.

 

[Eeezee]

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: mugs

I don't know about you, but the WTO didn't exist when I was in 8th grade.

I must have been sleeping in 8th grade, because I don't remember anything about the WTO either

It definitely wasn't covered when I was in 8th grade or even throughout high school, and that was about 4 years ago.

Implying that daniel1113 recently passed 8th grade

 

[Arglebargle]

Originally posted by: AndrewR
Every time I see some more garbage from the RIAA like this, it makes me want to go download some songs. I actually didn't pirate any songs until they started suing individuals for downloading, then I installed Bearshare and grabbed a few hundred. I guess I have to find a client and find some more songs.

If there were some workable form of micropayment, you could pay a nickle or a dime for song download directly to the band, and most would make more money than they do from their 'approved' industry sales. Lots of middlemen in the biz, skimming the take right now.

 

[Eeezee]

Originally posted by: postmortemIA
No wonder USA-Russia relations are going down the toilet. Classic example of arm twisting by the stronger.

That and the random pulonium poisonings of ex-KGB agents that moved west

 

[Balt]

Good luck getting a dime. That site probably had the Russian mob backing it.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: TheWart
Actually, I am pretty sure one of the last obstacles to Russia joining the WTO is their (in)action regarding the allofmp3 issue.

And of course they don't expect to get 1.6 trillion, but still, it's a pretty ridiculous stunt that is gonna give allofmp3 a lot of exposure.

the allofmp3 issue is nothing compared to the oil company they shut down by saying they hadn't paid their taxes.

 

[halik]

Originally posted by: wazzledoozle
Insane greedy ******. What jurisdiction does the Recording Industry Association of America think they have over a Russian company anyways? These guys (RIAA) seriously need to be truck bombed or something, they are just a terrorist group with lawyers. ******...

Well they can get a russian legal entity to sue allofmp3....outside of that they can fvck off.

Edit: They filled it in new york... nothing but a stupid pr move. Allofmp3 will politely advice riaa to go fvck themselves.

 

[Rangoric]

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: wazzledoozle
Insane greedy ******. What jurisdiction does the Recording Industry Association of America think they have over a Russian company anyways? These guys (RIAA) seriously need to be truck bombed or something, they are just a terrorist group with lawyers. ******...

Well they can get a russian legal entity to sue allofmp3....outside of that they can fvck off.

Edit: They filled it in new york... nothing but a stupid pr move. Allofmp3 will politely advice riaa to go fvck themselves.

I would love to see that in a legal document in a lawsuit involving Trillions.

 

[ranmaniac]

Wherever there is money in Russia, I'm sure there is some ex-KGB, mobster types behind it. Maybe they'll whack some of the RIAA, like how they did Denzel Washingtons character in "Training Day."

 

[RichardE]

They couldn't get Piratebay shut down

(3 days downtime after the servers were confiscated!)

I really doubt the RIAA will win this. Worse that will happen is allofmp3.com will move it servers over a multitude of different countries and Russia will go "ok US, site is not on Russia territory anymore <^> )

 

[AndrewR]

Originally posted by: Arglebargle

Originally posted by: AndrewR
Every time I see some more garbage from the RIAA like this, it makes me want to go download some songs. I actually didn't pirate any songs until they started suing individuals for downloading, then I installed Bearshare and grabbed a few hundred. I guess I have to find a client and find some more songs.

If there were some workable form of micropayment, you could pay a nickle or a dime for song download directly to the band, and most would make more money than they do from their 'approved' industry sales. Lots of middlemen in the biz, skimming the take right now.

It'll never happen while the large companies are around (Sony-BMG, Thorn-EMI, etc.). They control most of the middle and profit along the way so they have every interest in keeping it going. I took a legal course about the music industry, and it was eye opening how much money from each album goes where.

Any guess why artists tour? It's not to promote their albums. They (the artists) get much, much, MUCH more money from touring than album sales unless they are well established artists who can dictate some terms to the record company (superstars, not merely 2nd album successes).

The big killer for artists is recoupment costs. The record company essentially loans them money upfront plus also "bills" them for promotion costs for the album. All the royalties from the album that would go to the band are diverted to recoupment of that "debt". That's why bands that have a very successful album don't see much of the money.

If you want to support a band, don't buy the album -- go see them in concert.

 

[thescreensavers]

Wow

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: TheWart

Originally posted by: Colt45

Originally posted by: daniel1113

Originally posted by: wazzledoozle
What jurisdiction does the Recording Industry Association of America think they have over a Russian company anyways?

WTO. You'll read about it when you take 8th grade world politics (or is that reserved for 9th grade now?).

Russia isn't a member of the WTO.

Actually, I am pretty sure one of the last obstacles to Russia joining the WTO is their (in)action regarding the allofmp3 issue.

And of course they don't expect to get 1.6 trillion, but still, it's a pretty ridiculous stunt that is gonna give allofmp3 a lot of exposure.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/01/world...6b&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss

So great is the official level of concern about AllofMP3 that American trade negotiators darkly warned that the Web site could jeopardize Russia's long-sought entry into the World Trade Organization.