RIAA starts going after students

[dmcowen674]

They filed charges against 4 students from 4 different Universities today. This is just the start, they plan on prosecuting thousands and thousands as they ramp up working with local Jurisdictions across the country.

http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/04/03/2312220

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=569&ncid=738&e=1&u=/nm/20030403/tc_nm/media_music_piracy_dc

http://www.riaa.com/PR_story.cfm?id=629

http://www.eff.org/news/breaking/

http://www.boycott-riaa.com/article/6428

Edit 4-9-2003: Added boycott-riaa link in depth article of case filed by RIAA and arguments. Basically if the RIAA wins this, The Internet as you knew it would be dead as well as freedom of information since all Text (Words) would be owned and controlled by Commerical Entities such as the RIAA and MPAA. This is not much different from the thread where people in here and another Website said that the simple WORD of my website is considered SPAM itself. This case considers WORDS indexed and published to be as illegal as having the actual files themselves.


Also SonicBlue, manufacturer of ReplayTV has been forced into Bankruptcy by the MPAA/RIAA because of lawsuits filed by the MPAA costing Sonicblue in excess of a million dollars a day in legal fees battling the dozens of lawsuits the MPAA filed against SonicBlue. The main reason the MPAA is sueing is because they say it is illegal to skip Commercials which is what the ReplayTV makes it easy to do.

Will find the story where the President of the Turner Broadcasting said all "Americans are committing a crime when they skip a Commericial, they are breaking a contract for not having to pay to watch their shows but must watch the Commercials in return."

http://www.templetons.com/brad/adskip.html - Ad skipping Illegal article

http://mail.sarai.net/pipermail/reader-list/2002-May/001430.html - Hollywood and the broadcast television cartel are going to war against the makers of hard-disk video recorders that allow you to skip past commercials. The head of Turner Broadcasting calls it ``theft'' when you, the viewer, decline to watch the ads he wants you to view.

From: "White, Sam" <Sam.White_at_mail.house.gov>
To: "'declan'" <declan_at_well.com>
Subject: skipping commercials is stealing?
Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 17:43:40 -0400
Hi Declan -
I thought the politech folks would have a barrel of laughs over the comments of Jamie Kellner, the CEO of Turner Broadcasting (a subsidiary of the much-beloved AOL). Apparently, in an interview with CableWorld, Kellner, in
response to a question about why personal video recorders were bad for the
industry, responded:

Because of the ad skips.... It's theft. Your contract with the network when you get the show is you're going to watch the spots. Otherwise you couldn't get the show on an ad-supported basis. Any time you skip a commercial or watch the button you're actually stealing the programming.

This is from an article in 2600 magazine, found here: http://www.2600.com/news/display.shtml?id=1113
The text of the interview can be found here:
http://www.inside.com/product/product.asp?entity=CableWorld&pf_ID=7A2ACA71-FAAD-41FC-A100-0B8A11C30373

Regards,
Sam
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[notfred]

Does it still count as terrorism if you only blow up buildings of corrupt corporations?

 

[Eli]

:|:|

They must be stopped! :|

Let's all bombard the FTC.. complain about unfair business practices by the RIAA/MPAA...

 

[Mill]

I don't see a problem. A million files is a tad excessive.

 

[UNCjigga]

And what did we learn from Tienanmen Square? Going after students is NOT COOL!

 

[BatmanNate]

What an enormous waste of tax dollars if this all goes through the legal system. College kids aren't much of a target for extortion.

 

[Evadman]

Originally posted by: notfred
Does it still count as terrorism if you only blow up buildings of corrupt corporations?

All hail the voice of reason!

 

[Spac3d]

The college students don't even have the money to spend on cds... why go after them???

 

[Platypus]

Haha good luck

 

[JW310]

Wahoo.... half of the people named in the lawsuit are from my college (RPI)...

:disgust:


JW

 

[NokiaDude]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
They filed charges against 4 students from 4 different Universities today. This is just the start, they plan on prosecuting thousands and thousands as they ramp up working with local Jurisdictions across the country.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...=1&u=/nm/20030403/tc_nm/media_music_piracy_dc

http://www.riaa.com/PR_story.cfm?id=629

http://www.eff.org/news/breaking/

Also SonicBlue, manufacturer of ReplayTV has been forced into Bankruptcy by the MPAA/RIAA because of lawsuits filed by the MPAA costing Sonicblue in excess of a million dollars a day in legal fees battling the dozens of lawsuits the MPAA filed against SonicBlue. The main reason the MPAA is sueing is because they say it is illegal to skip Commercials which is what the ReplayTV makes it easy to do.

WTF!!!!!!!?!?!?! That is totally not illegal, we pay for TV, we pay for crappy 800x600 resolution cable BUT we DID NOT pay to have those stuipid commmercials every 5 minutes!!!!!!! I smell a class action lawsuit . . .

 

[technogeeky]

Originally posted by: NokiaDude

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
They filed charges against 4 students from 4 different Universities today. This is just the start, they plan on prosecuting thousands and thousands as they ramp up working with local Jurisdictions across the country.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...=1&u=/nm/20030403/tc_nm/media_music_piracy_dc

http://www.riaa.com/PR_story.cfm?id=629

http://www.eff.org/news/breaking/

Also SonicBlue, manufacturer of ReplayTV has been forced into Bankruptcy by the MPAA/RIAA because of lawsuits filed by the MPAA costing Sonicblue in excess of a million dollars a day in legal fees battling the dozens of lawsuits the MPAA filed against SonicBlue. The main reason the MPAA is sueing is because they say it is illegal to skip Commercials which is what the ReplayTV makes it easy to do.

WTF!!!!!!!?!?!?! That is totally not illegal, we pay for TV, we pay for crappy 800x600 resolution cable BUT we DID NOT pay to have those stuipid commmercials every 5 minutes!!!!!!! I smell a class action lawsuit . . .

Can someone find a story for this?

 

[tm37]

I guess that whole illegally distributing copyrighted material thing shouldn't aply to poor college students

 

[GTaudiophile]

How long until the RIAA web site gets hax0red?

 

[ROTC1983]

Originally posted by: tm37
I guess that whole illegally distributing copyrighted material thing shouldn't aply to poor college students

Let me take a guess, you never burned or received a copy of music from a friend? :disgust:

 

[Analog]

Originally posted by: uncJIGGA
And what did we learn from Tienanmen Square? Going after students is NOT COOL!

true!

 

[tm37]

Originally posted by: ROTC1983

Originally posted by: tm37
I guess that whole illegally distributing copyrighted material thing shouldn't aply to poor college students

Let me take a guess, you never burned or received a copy of music from a friend? :disgust:

Yes I have and that is completely legal under fair use.

HOWEVER taking that CD and making it availible to MILLIONS OF USERS is illegal.

Napster tried to use the Fair Use cluase in it's defence but the court rulled that it fell outside the spectrum of the "intent of the Law"

 

[Evadman]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
How long until the RIAA web site gets hax0red?

AFAIK they have been hacked a minimum of 8 times in the last year. I see another within the week.

 

[irl33thax0r]

I think its kinda rediculous that they are going after students. I know if they arrested every student that has "illegal" mp3s at my school, there would be about 5 kids left... I dont see why they even try. Maybe they should lower CD prices... then I might buy something.

 

[BD231]

Just tell me who needs to be shot, I'll get right to it.

 

[SOSTrooper]

Originally posted by: Spac3d
The college students don't even have the money to spend on cds... why go after them???

They're not going after them for money, but to send a shockwave across the country to 'scare' other college students. They just want to minimize as much illegal dl'ing in universities as they can (which, I'm pretty sure won't be too effective, but just to keep the students thinking).

 

[Kilgor]

Does it still count as terrorism if you only blow up buildings of corrupt corporations?

Why don't you burn down the dorms where corrupt students are stealing peoples copyrighted material?

 

[pulse8]

Originally posted by: uncJIGGA
And what did we learn from Tienanmen Square? Going after students is NOT COOL!

You're comparing the RIAA going after bunch of college kids for doing something that is against the law to Tienanmen Square?

Why don't you just go the full nine and call them Nazis?

Granted that the RIAA has been going about this all the wrong ways, but they are completely within their rights to sue anyone who is distributing music illegally.

 

[Imported]

Damn bastards.. Why is skipping commercials a crime?

 

[tm37]

OK it really doesn't matter IF you are a poor college student.

See if you can't afford something then you can't have it. IF that something is required for life (food, shelter, ect) the government will help you out and give it to you.

Music is not a right nor is it required to live on. And amazingly enough you can purchase a small device at your local walmart for less than TEN DOLLARS that will allow you to listen FOR FREE for music at your hearts content. It's called a radio.