Rich dentist poaches a lion and ruins his practice

[kage69]

Yep I so hope he rots in a Zimbabwe jail. It's probably even worse than a US jail.

Yeah, I don't think the dentist cred will afford him the treatment DiCaprio got in jail in Blood Diamond. That scene cracks me up - lone white guy in prison just sitting there looking pissed and indignant, and the throng of black prisoners look like they're sharing the cell with an irritated honey badger. Soldiers of fortune do have more street cred I guess.

Unless Mr. Dentist is cut from the same cloth as that Canadian dentist who drove off an attacking polar bar with a SA knife some years ago, I think him going to an African jail will have the predictable outcome: his well taken care of mouth winning some admirers. Good luck with that dude.


I think some of the outrage here might be explained by Westerners having preconceived notions about lions in general. First, there is no lion shortage in the east and south ends of Africa. None. They multiply like clockwork anywhere there is food for them, and there are no fertility issues regarding captivity either. In the west of Africa lions are indeed a bit rare. I think maybe some Americans perceive the western lion population representative of the entire continent, and that mixed with the unpleasant notion of trophy hunting (and I say that as a hunter myself) it just makes this guy look like an epic fuckwad and criminal.

I have grudgingly respect for anyone who goes in the African bush with a bow instead of medium bore magnum, but I don't buy his excuses at all. In this case he used a crossbow, which short of a suppressed rifle is probably the best poaching tool ever. I'm curious as to how the collar was arranged on the animal, what with his mature mane and all. I'd expect if you are close enough to put arrows (or bolts) into something you should be able to notice that a GPS locator collar makes things look decidedly less wild, but then knowing how big these guys get I can also see how all that hair could easily obscure it. Of course, having to hunt at night is a huge flag though. Hunters like light, it's what helps us be sure of our intended target and put that copper right where where it needs to go. Unless you are specifically hunting something nocturnal (which lions are not) why bother unless you are deliberately trying to do it on the sly?

I'm ok with internet shaming for stuff like this because it's been shown to work! Genocide, murder, kidnapping, rape, religious persecution? Not so much. If that's not the case then we need to let Washington, London, Paris, Amman, Lagos, etc know because using internet outrage to fight terrorists and psychos sounds a lot cheaper than with drones, infantry and air strikes.

 

[flexy]

The massive internet outrage about this is insofar good as that it clearly shows that a MAJORITY of people (no question about this), the average Joe and Jenny but also celebrities, actors and politicians are AGAINST this type of "hunting" and don't see it as something honorable, in fact it's seen as appalling and sad.

There are still some people who post pictures after they hunted a trophy, most of the time those people look very proud and happy, like they just managed to do the coolest thing on Earth sitting on a dead animal's carcass.

Those people now, increasingly, will realize that what they do is NOT accepted or seen as something positive by the majority of people. (In their heads it obviously is, there must be some sense of "achievement")

It should not even come so far that someone is "proud" and "happy" by having just killed an endangered animal. Those people who literally purchased a trophy, where some rangers dragged an animal in front of them out of a safe zone to shoot them must realize that this was not a proud act.

Rather than being happy and proud they should feel shame. But they don't, in part because those "hunters" have not YET realized that most people are despising what they do. They need to realize that pretty much no-one is receptacle for or shares the feel for their "achievement". And once they see they did not "achieve" anything in the eyes of others, the attractiveness of this "sport" might also vanish. From this point of view the massive outrage is a good thing.

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PS I am making distinction between hunters. I knew some hunters who do real hunting, either as a challenge/sport (the challenge to get a kill, deer etc. with *somewhat* balanced odds AND respect for wildlife) and others for food. Purchasing a kill and then getting a can-bred animal "presented" or someone luring them in front of them is NOT hunting. It's just a bored rich-guy looking for some thrills after they realized they have a lot of money and they need new challenges in life since they otherwise achieved everything else.

 

[Auric]

I wonder if we can buy a permit to get in on the action.

Permits are for suckers. We can justify it later with a made-up story.

 

[1sikbITCH]

I don't think the guy is an upstanding citizen and frankly, he's a jerk and a poacher, but I don't think we should all be jumping on board the internet hate machine to totally ruin his life.

What is law but a set of rules put in place by those in power.
The internet gives the power to the people.

 

[Brainonska511]

What is law but a set of rules put in place by those in power.
The internet gives the power to the people.

Hardly. The internet is a lynch mob that's prone to go way overboard.

 

[SKORPI0]

I just hope that he gets extradited to Zimbabwe and rot jail for the maximum sentence. ^_^


Can Zimbabwe have lion's killer extradited?

 

[Brian Stirling]

Hardly. The internet is a lynch mob that's prone to go way overboard.

You really need to get this dentists phone number as you seem to have a bromance for him.

Why should I cut this guy any slack?


Brian

 

[Brainonska511]

You really need to get this dentists phone number as you seem to have a bromance for him.

Why should I cut this guy any slack?


Brian

I stated my opinion: the guy is a jerk and a poacher and should face legal action, if applicable. I don't have to or want to join the internet mob.

 

[shabby]

Hardly. The internet is a lynch mob that's prone to go way overboard.

And those that are in power don't?

 

[Auric]

Hardly. The internet is a lynch mob that's prone to go way overboard.

Well he went overboard and lynched a lion.

 

[Brian Stirling]

I stated my opinion: the guy is a jerk and a poacher and should face legal action, if applicable. I don't have to or want to join the internet mob.

If the guy gets away with this the message to other sick fucks is that you to can get away with this and more animals die so sick fucks can get a trophy. If this guy winds up with some jail time and a huge fine AND sees his practice suffer the sick fucks out there will get a different lesson. I'd prefer the different lesson!

I'm fucking tired of folks carrying the water for sick fucks that need to kill for pleasure and to take a trophy so they can relive the animals death.

Fuck the sick fucks and the sick fucks that support them!


Brian

 

[davmat787]

I'm all for ethical and lawful hunting, legit hunters are almost always the biggest supporters of conservation. Hunting license fees have paid for hundreds of thousands of acres of land specifically for conservation purposes.

Legal and ethical hunters by and large respect their prey way more than someone does buying meat at a store as well.

Then there are the practical benefits of hunting such as having stable deer populations given the fact their natural predators are largely non existent relative to a hundred years ago.

Any legitimate and lawful hunter will be disgusted at the taking of this lion.

 

[DCal430]

Canadians really shouldn't speak much about this type of hunting, when Canada is one of countries to allow trophy hunting of species threatened with extinction. Canadians have expressed a lot of outrage over this senseless murder, yet few Canadians are willing to change their own laws allowing trophy hunting of animals near extinction.

 

[HumblePie]

I'm all for ethical and lawful hunting, legit hunters are almost always the biggest supporters of conservation. Hunting license fees have paid for hundreds of thousands of acres of land specifically for conservation purposes.

Legal and ethical hunters by and large respect their prey way more than someone does buying meat at a store as well.

Then there are the practical benefits of hunting such as having stable deer populations given the fact their natural predators are largely non existent relative to a hundred years ago.

Any legitimate and lawful hunter will be disgusted at the taking of this lion.

For the most part true.

I will state though that when it comes to some "big game" African animals, there are legit reasons for hunting them. That is not what this dentist did.

In African many tribes or villages are allowed to hunt some of the bigger game from time to time legally to feed their tribe/village. Not to mention lions, elephants, and other big game do get old or injured or sick and are better of dead for the population to be healthy. I know that sounds callous but it really isn't.

So what have these tribes/villages figured out? They can kill something and have the meat they need OR they can "sell" the privilege of the kill to some rich hunter while they still get to keep the meat. So the tribe or village doesn't kill the animal they are legally entitled to in order to feed themselves. Instead they get the meat from the kill and a LOT of money to help them out by selling that to a legit hunter.

However, the dentist in this instance did NOT do this as I mentioned and needs to burn for it.

 

[michal1980]

What is law but a set of rules put in place by those in power.
The internet gives the power to the people.

no

http://www.vox.com/2015/7/30/9074865/cecil-lion-palmer-mob-justice

From Gamergate to Cecil the lion: internet mob justice is out of control

A formal justice system, at least in theory, determines the severity of a crime based on objective factors such as its impact on society and how it compares with other crimes. The internet mob determines the severity of a crime based on subjective factors, such as how unlikable they find the alleged criminal to be, how likable they find the victim, and the degree to which the alleged crime fits into their preconceived beliefs. You'll notice that most of these trace back not to the crime's impact on society, but rather the degree to which punishing the crime will feel good for the punishers.

 

[dainthomas]

Permits are for suckers. We can justify it later with a made-up story.

Except he had a permit.

 

[dainthomas]

I just hope that he gets extradited to Zimbabwe and rot jail for the maximum sentence. ^_^


Can Zimbabwe have lion's killer extradited?

It's funny how backwards that is. Would've been better if you included a real sport like hockey instead of a crybaby game like soccer.

 

[chitwood]

It's funny how backwards that is. Would've been better if you included a real sport like hockey instead of a crybaby game like soccer.

It's funny how your post has absolutely nothing to do with the topic, and is basically nothing but threadcrap.

OT -
This dentist has gone into hiding, and has not been seen since this incident was put into the news. It's so obvious the guy knows he did something disgusting and even anticipated what the reaction would be. I can't imagine anyone defending him at this point.

And no, "hunting" such as this is not a sport, let's just stop calling it that altogether.

 

[slightlyhuman]

It's the motivation behind the killing that bothers me. Farmers do it becuase they need the money, not because it's fun, hunters make shit up like "a deeper understanding of nature" or needing the food to justify that they like shooting at live targets.

You're 100% retard.

There are hunters that are actually there for the right reasons. Do you look at people who fish the same way?

logic fail much?


Disclaimer: I hunt and process my own meat. I take pride in removing the animal from the wild without any interference(store/processor/etc) for the sole purpose of processing and eating the meat. I used to hunt fowl while I was younger but not caring for the meat nor being interested in trophies drove me away. I also buy meat at the grocery store. I'm also fucking disgusted by this POS dentist and hope he suffers the ultimate cost pertaining to his crime(s).

 

[Denly]

Canadians really shouldn't speak much about this type of hunting, when Canada is one of countries to allow trophy hunting of species threatened with extinction. Canadians have expressed a lot of outrage over this senseless murder, yet few Canadians are willing to change their own laws allowing trophy hunting of animals near extinction.

I am Canadian and I am against any type of trophy hunting, where do I sign?

You make it sound like a regular joe of any countries have say on law making.

 

[OutHouse]

Moron, hunting elk/deer for food is indeed a sport and necessary.

 

[OutHouse]

It's funny how your post has absolutely nothing to do with the topic, and is basically nothing but threadcrap.

OT -
This dentist has gone into hiding, and has not been seen since this incident was put into the news. It's so obvious the guy knows he did something disgusting and even anticipated what the reaction would be. I can't imagine anyone defending him at this point.

And no, "hunting" such as this is not a sport, let's just stop calling it that altogether.

SKORPI0 posting of that pic is a threadcrap and has nothing to do with the topic.

just stop posting.

 

[squirrel dog]

But I shot a Lion in Reno just to watch him die
When I hear that dentist drill blowing, I hang my head and cry..

 

[MongGrel]

But I shot a Lion in Reno just to watch him die
When I hear that dentist drill blowing, I hang my head and cry..

+1

 

[Humpy]

Moron, hunting elk/deer for food is indeed a sport and necessary.

Those are two separate, unrelated things. By definition, the sporting aspect isn't necessary.

Except in maybe deep 3rd world nations, hunting for food is truly necessary for very few. More often it's a choice to amuse people in their leisure time. The need to manage herds is only necessary because people (hunters?) say it is. It is laughable to think that we need to do a job that nature does on it's own.