Rich dentist poaches a lion and ruins his practice

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Auric

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Or because the hunters have already killed too many of their predators.
 

Red Squirrel

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Moron, hunting elk/deer for food is indeed a sport and necessary.

I hate the idea of calling hunting a sport, a sport usually involves both teams having equal grounds. If the animals knows it is being hunted and has the option of also hunting the human, and has the same set of weapons, then that would be a sport. If you changed soccer so that one team only has a goalie and the other team has a full team and no net, that's no longer a sport. That's basically what hunting is.

That said, there is nothing wrong with hunting in a sustainable fashion like we typically do here in North America, so hunting moose, partridge, deer etc is not a bad thing as long as it is done responsibly. There are proper rules to regulate and ensure that it's sustainable, which is a good thing. Most hunters are also not just doing it for trophy they'll actually eat the meat. I don't really have anything against putting a moose head on the wall as long as that moose was not just killed for that purpose. But I would not call it a sport either unless the moose had a gun too and could shoot back.
 

DaveSimmons

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I disagree with him. This was not a lion roaming through villages to terrorize the people, it was a preserve lion lured out to the hunter's van with a promise of free candy.

We Zimbabweans are left shaking our heads, wondering why Americans care more about African animals than about African people.
The people get millions in aid, and they had a decent local economy until they chose to support a racist dictator who destroyed their GDP. Lions don't get a vote, they just get hunted to extinction.

Don’t tell us what to do with our animals when you allowed your own mountain lions to be hunted to near extinction in the eastern United States. Don’t bemoan the clear-cutting of our forests when you turned yours into concrete jungles.

Yes, please do fail to learn from history and repeat our mistakes. That's a great plan.
 

MongGrel

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I hate the idea of calling hunting a sport, a sport usually involves both teams having equal grounds. If the animals knows it is being hunted and has the option of also hunting the human, and has the same set of weapons, then that would be a sport. If you changed soccer so that one team only has a goalie and the other team has a full team and no net, that's no longer a sport. That's basically what hunting is.

That said, there is nothing wrong with hunting in a sustainable fashion like we typically do here in North America, so hunting moose, partridge, deer etc is not a bad thing as long as it is done responsibly. There are proper rules to regulate and ensure that it's sustainable, which is a good thing. Most hunters are also not just doing it for trophy they'll actually eat the meat. I don't really have anything against putting a moose head on the wall as long as that moose was not just killed for that purpose. But I would not call it a sport either unless the moose had a gun too and could shoot back.




 

Red Squirrel

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Hahaha that's hilarious. I think I recall seeing that actually, think it may have happened in my area but can't recall if that's the one.
 

skull

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I don't think Waggy has issues, I like him. You, along with the others, missed the simple point. "Eating the meat" is just another justification for having fun killing something. Whether that justification is valid entirely depends on one's personal/cultural view. It's not very reasonable to claim your reasons for sport killing are better than someone else's reasons for sport killing. Neither would do it if they didn't find it enjoyable.

Who cares if its a sport for him, its a way of life for all meat eaters. Just because me or you haven't pulled the trigger on our dinner doesn't mean it hasn't died for us. You are just as guilty as he is even if you think its ok because its already dead on your plate. Actually you are more guilty because you somehow think its wrong to kill an animal and eat it. Next time you bite into a piece of meat think about it dying. It doesn't happen fast because you think it does, its cruel and its all your fault as you chew and digest the flesh.

I agree with john conner on the lion hunter. Hes open season, I bet he fits nicely in the trunk of my car.
 

Humpy

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Who cares if its a sport for him, its a way of life for all meat eaters. Just because me or you haven't pulled the trigger on our dinner doesn't mean it hasn't died for us. You are just as guilty as he is even if you think its ok because its already dead on your plate. Actually you are more guilty because you somehow think its wrong to kill an animal and eat it. Next time you bite into a piece of meat think about it dying. It doesn't happen fast because you think it does, its cruel and its all your fault as you chew and digest the flesh.

Christ, I didn't say any of that stuff or anything really related to any of that.

Hunter A likes to kill animals in his spare time. He enjoys eating some pieces of the animal afterwards.

Hunter B likes to kill animals in his spare time. He enjoys looking at some pieces of the animal afterwards.

All of the events leading up to how the carcass is disposed of are similar. That the final destination is in a stomach or hanging on a wall is immaterial except that they both fulfill a desire. It's odd (hypocritical?) that one hunter would criticize the other. It could be argued that one outcome is more noble than the other but it would be an impossible argument to resolve.
 

HumblePie

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I hate the idea of calling hunting a sport, a sport usually involves both teams having equal grounds. If the animals knows it is being hunted and has the option of also hunting the human, and has the same set of weapons, then that would be a sport. If you changed soccer so that one team only has a goalie and the other team has a full team and no net, that's no longer a sport. That's basically what hunting is.

That said, there is nothing wrong with hunting in a sustainable fashion like we typically do here in North America, so hunting moose, partridge, deer etc is not a bad thing as long as it is done responsibly. There are proper rules to regulate and ensure that it's sustainable, which is a good thing. Most hunters are also not just doing it for trophy they'll actually eat the meat. I don't really have anything against putting a moose head on the wall as long as that moose was not just killed for that purpose. But I would not call it a sport either unless the moose had a gun too and could shoot back.

You and other don't know the definition of what sport means.

Sport means simply and outdoor pastime activity. That's it. So hunting is a sport. Your qualifier constraints don't mean a damn thing to the application and definition of the word.
 

OverVolt

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This prick got busted in 08 for poaching a black bear in WI and transporting it 40 miles. Im sure he is on the up and up with this kill. Hope he loses his job over this shit.

It is now time to quote people who thought it was a good idea at the time
 

OverVolt

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These kind of 'hunters' make me sick. I'm all for hunting to cull herds and for food. Hunting endangered animals for trophies is the lowest form of disgusting. It's only more disgusting because he is a terrible hunter and was unable to even properly kill the animal.

Mmhmm.
 

OverVolt

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Well, the internet pretty clearly says Zimbabwe wants him and wants to charge him, and it also says pretty clearly Cecil was a protection lion.


Anyway, no need to continue this discussion further, I am unilaterally moving on from this tangent.

Mmmhmmm. Funny how the internet do that. What a difference a couple of days makes But your post is here forever!
 

sdifox

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You and other don't know the definition of what sport means.

Sport means simply and outdoor pastime activity. That's it. So hunting is a sport. Your qualifier constraints don't mean a damn thing to the application and definition of the word.

So indoor sports are not sports.
 

alien42

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You and other don't know the definition of what sport means.
Sport means simply and outdoor pastime activity.

a few "activities" that fall into your very simple definition of sport...

building a snowman, climbing a tree, spinning like a whirling dervish, throwing rocks, TPing someones yard, etc.
 

shortylickens

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Hunting may not be a sport, but it certainly is a skill.


Unfortunately these guys didnt hunt either. They waited for a guide to walk them right up to an animal.
 

HumblePie

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So indoor sports are not sports.



a few "activities" that fall into your very simple definition of sport...

building a snowman, climbing a tree, spinning like a whirling dervish, throwing rocks, TPing someones yard, etc.

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=sport

Past-time used to mean game... so outdoor game is the definition. So indoor "sports" is technically not sports.

But all those things alien42 listed are sports if done as a game. Just the mere action is a no, but if it's a race to climb to the top of a tree, or how many spins you can do before falling, or hitting an object with a rock, then those are games done outside and thus are sports.
 

Brian Stirling

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http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=sport

Past-time used to mean game... so outdoor game is the definition. So indoor "sports" is technically not sports.

But all those things alien42 listed are sports if done as a game. Just the mere action is a no, but if it's a race to climb to the top of a tree, or how many spins you can do before falling, or hitting an object with a rock, then those are games done outside and thus are sports.


When we were kids we'd sometimes challenge some other kids to a game of Football. If the other team showed up with there older brothers that played Football at University would that be sportsmanlike? The operative word is "sportsmanlike"!

Calling hunting a sport is a game of semantics played by people the need to justify hunting. There is nothing sportsmanlike abut hunting!

Again, as a meet-eater I can't in honesty decry hunting on principle and when it's needed I have zero problem with it. In most of the developed world hunting isn't anywhere near as cost effective as going to the store and buying your food -- not even close in cost.

Hunting in the USA has pluses and minuses. On the plus side, hunters and fishermen contribute a good deal of money for the conservation and maintenance of wilderness areas and culling overpopulated animals are necessary in some cases. On the negative side, the natural predators, who keep other animals in check, have been exterminated and much of the reason for that is to put people into the position of controlling the populations -- for the betterment on hunters. Too many wilderness areas have been badly managed and done so on purpose so that hunters retain the numbers they wish to kill. But, perhaps worst of all, many hunters want that trophy and therefore go after the fittest animals thereby leaving a weekend gene pool.

But, on the issue of trophy hunting I have zero respect for the small dicked assholes that engage in it.


Brian
 

MongGrel

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Who cares if its a sport for him, its a way of life for all meat eaters. Just because me or you haven't pulled the trigger on our dinner doesn't mean it hasn't died for us. You are just as guilty as he is even if you think its ok because its already dead on your plate. Actually you are more guilty because you somehow think its wrong to kill an animal and eat it. Next time you bite into a piece of meat think about it dying. It doesn't happen fast because you think it does, its cruel and its all your fault as you chew and digest the flesh.

I agree with john conner on the lion hunter. Hes open season, I bet he fits nicely in the trunk of my car.

Christ, I didn't say any of that stuff or anything really related to any of that.

Hunter A likes to kill animals in his spare time. He enjoys eating some pieces of the animal afterwards.

Hunter B likes to kill animals in his spare time. He enjoys looking at some pieces of the animal afterwards.

All of the events leading up to how the carcass is disposed of are similar. That the final destination is in a stomach or hanging on a wall is immaterial except that they both fulfill a desire. It's odd (hypocritical?) that one hunter would criticize the other. It could be argued that one outcome is more noble than the other but it would be an impossible argument to resolve.

You and other don't know the definition of what sport means.

Sport means simply and outdoor pastime activity. That's it. So hunting is a sport. Your qualifier constraints don't mean a damn thing to the application and definition of the word.

 

dainthomas

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Dec 7, 2004
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http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=sport

Past-time used to mean game... so outdoor game is the definition. So indoor "sports" is technically not sports.

But all those things alien42 listed are sports if done as a game. Just the mere action is a no, but if it's a race to climb to the top of a tree, or how many spins you can do before falling, or hitting an object with a rock, then those are games done outside and thus are sports.

Jesus, this is such a nerd page.
 

clamum

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Feb 13, 2003
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Apparently his vacation home was vandalized and he's hired private security guards and bought CCTV cameras for protection and surveillance.

I think what he did to the lion was wrong but I wouldn't fault him for hiding out by his home and using that crossbow and rifle on the busy-body fucksticks that try to come and vandalize his place.
 

sdifox

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http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=sport

Past-time used to mean game... so outdoor game is the definition. So indoor "sports" is technically not sports.

But all those things alien42 listed are sports if done as a game. Just the mere action is a no, but if it's a race to climb to the top of a tree, or how many spins you can do before falling, or hitting an object with a rock, then those are games done outside and thus are sports.

The link you provided said nothing about outdoor or indoor...
 
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Apparently his vacation home was vandalized and he's hired private security guards and bought CCTV cameras for protection and surveillance.

I think what he did to the lion was wrong but I wouldn't fault him for hiding out by his home and using that crossbow and rifle on the busy-body fucksticks that try to come and vandalize his place.

Yeah I agree, those vandals are just as bad as the dentist and should be punished for their crimes. It's one thing to destroy his business by legal means (e.g. not patronizing his business anymore), but to physically destroy or do damage to his personal belongings is crossing the line.
 

sdifox

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Apparently his vacation home was vandalized and he's hired private security guards and bought CCTV cameras for protection and surveillance.

I think what he did to the lion was wrong but I wouldn't fault him for hiding out by his home and using that crossbow and rifle on the busy-body fucksticks that try to come and vandalize his place.

It's the lion's buddies flushing the game.
 
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