A Zimbabwean's opinion on the issue. Third world problems?
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/05/opinion/in-zimbabwe-we-dont-cry-for-lions.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/05/opinion/in-zimbabwe-we-dont-cry-for-lions.html
Moron, hunting elk/deer for food is indeed a sport and necessary.
A Zimbabwean's opinion on the issue. Third world problems?
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/05/opinion/in-zimbabwe-we-dont-cry-for-lions.html
The people get millions in aid, and they had a decent local economy until they chose to support a racist dictator who destroyed their GDP. Lions don't get a vote, they just get hunted to extinction.We Zimbabweans are left shaking our heads, wondering why Americans care more about African animals than about African people.
Don’t tell us what to do with our animals when you allowed your own mountain lions to be hunted to near extinction in the eastern United States. Don’t bemoan the clear-cutting of our forests when you turned yours into concrete jungles.
I hate the idea of calling hunting a sport, a sport usually involves both teams having equal grounds. If the animals knows it is being hunted and has the option of also hunting the human, and has the same set of weapons, then that would be a sport. If you changed soccer so that one team only has a goalie and the other team has a full team and no net, that's no longer a sport. That's basically what hunting is.
That said, there is nothing wrong with hunting in a sustainable fashion like we typically do here in North America, so hunting moose, partridge, deer etc is not a bad thing as long as it is done responsibly. There are proper rules to regulate and ensure that it's sustainable, which is a good thing. Most hunters are also not just doing it for trophy they'll actually eat the meat. I don't really have anything against putting a moose head on the wall as long as that moose was not just killed for that purpose. But I would not call it a sport either unless the moose had a gun too and could shoot back.
I don't think Waggy has issues, I like him. You, along with the others, missed the simple point. "Eating the meat" is just another justification for having fun killing something. Whether that justification is valid entirely depends on one's personal/cultural view. It's not very reasonable to claim your reasons for sport killing are better than someone else's reasons for sport killing. Neither would do it if they didn't find it enjoyable.
Who cares if its a sport for him, its a way of life for all meat eaters. Just because me or you haven't pulled the trigger on our dinner doesn't mean it hasn't died for us. You are just as guilty as he is even if you think its ok because its already dead on your plate. Actually you are more guilty because you somehow think its wrong to kill an animal and eat it. Next time you bite into a piece of meat think about it dying. It doesn't happen fast because you think it does, its cruel and its all your fault as you chew and digest the flesh.
I hate the idea of calling hunting a sport, a sport usually involves both teams having equal grounds. If the animals knows it is being hunted and has the option of also hunting the human, and has the same set of weapons, then that would be a sport. If you changed soccer so that one team only has a goalie and the other team has a full team and no net, that's no longer a sport. That's basically what hunting is.
That said, there is nothing wrong with hunting in a sustainable fashion like we typically do here in North America, so hunting moose, partridge, deer etc is not a bad thing as long as it is done responsibly. There are proper rules to regulate and ensure that it's sustainable, which is a good thing. Most hunters are also not just doing it for trophy they'll actually eat the meat. I don't really have anything against putting a moose head on the wall as long as that moose was not just killed for that purpose. But I would not call it a sport either unless the moose had a gun too and could shoot back.
This prick got busted in 08 for poaching a black bear in WI and transporting it 40 miles. Im sure he is on the up and up with this kill. Hope he loses his job over this shit.
These kind of 'hunters' make me sick. I'm all for hunting to cull herds and for food. Hunting endangered animals for trophies is the lowest form of disgusting. It's only more disgusting because he is a terrible hunter and was unable to even properly kill the animal.
Well, the internet pretty clearly says Zimbabwe wants him and wants to charge him, and it also says pretty clearly Cecil was a protection lion.
Anyway, no need to continue this discussion further, I am unilaterally moving on from this tangent.
You and other don't know the definition of what sport means.
Sport means simply and outdoor pastime activity. That's it. So hunting is a sport. Your qualifier constraints don't mean a damn thing to the application and definition of the word.
You and other don't know the definition of what sport means.
Sport means simply and outdoor pastime activity.
So indoor sports are not sports.
a few "activities" that fall into your very simple definition of sport...
building a snowman, climbing a tree, spinning like a whirling dervish, throwing rocks, TPing someones yard, etc.
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=sport
Past-time used to mean game... so outdoor game is the definition. So indoor "sports" is technically not sports.
But all those things alien42 listed are sports if done as a game. Just the mere action is a no, but if it's a race to climb to the top of a tree, or how many spins you can do before falling, or hitting an object with a rock, then those are games done outside and thus are sports.
Who cares if its a sport for him, its a way of life for all meat eaters. Just because me or you haven't pulled the trigger on our dinner doesn't mean it hasn't died for us. You are just as guilty as he is even if you think its ok because its already dead on your plate. Actually you are more guilty because you somehow think its wrong to kill an animal and eat it. Next time you bite into a piece of meat think about it dying. It doesn't happen fast because you think it does, its cruel and its all your fault as you chew and digest the flesh.
I agree with john conner on the lion hunter. Hes open season, I bet he fits nicely in the trunk of my car.
Christ, I didn't say any of that stuff or anything really related to any of that.
Hunter A likes to kill animals in his spare time. He enjoys eating some pieces of the animal afterwards.
Hunter B likes to kill animals in his spare time. He enjoys looking at some pieces of the animal afterwards.
All of the events leading up to how the carcass is disposed of are similar. That the final destination is in a stomach or hanging on a wall is immaterial except that they both fulfill a desire. It's odd (hypocritical?) that one hunter would criticize the other. It could be argued that one outcome is more noble than the other but it would be an impossible argument to resolve.
You and other don't know the definition of what sport means.
Sport means simply and outdoor pastime activity. That's it. So hunting is a sport. Your qualifier constraints don't mean a damn thing to the application and definition of the word.
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=sport
Past-time used to mean game... so outdoor game is the definition. So indoor "sports" is technically not sports.
But all those things alien42 listed are sports if done as a game. Just the mere action is a no, but if it's a race to climb to the top of a tree, or how many spins you can do before falling, or hitting an object with a rock, then those are games done outside and thus are sports.
Apparently his vacation home was vandalized and he's hired private security guards and bought CCTV cameras for protection and surveillance.
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=sport
Past-time used to mean game... so outdoor game is the definition. So indoor "sports" is technically not sports.
But all those things alien42 listed are sports if done as a game. Just the mere action is a no, but if it's a race to climb to the top of a tree, or how many spins you can do before falling, or hitting an object with a rock, then those are games done outside and thus are sports.
Apparently his vacation home was vandalized and he's hired private security guards and bought CCTV cameras for protection and surveillance.
I think what he did to the lion was wrong but I wouldn't fault him for hiding out by his home and using that crossbow and rifle on the busy-body fucksticks that try to come and vandalize his place.
Apparently his vacation home was vandalized and he's hired private security guards and bought CCTV cameras for protection and surveillance.
I think what he did to the lion was wrong but I wouldn't fault him for hiding out by his home and using that crossbow and rifle on the busy-body fucksticks that try to come and vandalize his place.