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What about those 13.5W GT2 part on the slide?
What about them ??? Are they at the same price point of Kabini ??? dont think so.
What about those 13.5W GT2 part on the slide?
According to the slide bellow, 10W TDP Hasswell is only GT3. Nemesis1 by referring to 10W Hasswell was pointing to dual Core GT3. This CPU will be a very expensive ULV and not in the same price point of Kabini.
Any links ?? because the lowest i could find is the Pentium 2117U at 17W(22nm).
http://ark.intel.com/products/71469/Intel-Pentium-2117U-Processor-2M-Cache-1_80-GHz
If Pentium 2117U, a Dual Core Dual Threads 1.8GHz with HD graphics is at 17W, a 10W Hasswell with GT3 will be at 1-1.2GHz. The GT3 will be underutilized most of the time because of the low TDP limit.
Your going to have to better than a cherry pick . I need 17 watt Intel Vs 17watt AMD in the same form factor . I not aware of trinity in these form factors . But If you have a link to such bench marks lets see them , I won't hold my breathNo they aren't. You might be able to find a few cpu-bound titles where intel wins but in most games they get thrashed vs Trinity at the same TDP.
Did you see the diablo III results with the 35W Trinity vs the 55W HD4000?
THRASHED. Even the 17W Trinity is faster than the 55W, and this result will be the same in many other games.
Considering intel will have more power budget and transistors thrown at gpu than ever before, it's not exactly surprising. Not to mention more money thrown at graphics R&D than the rest of the entire industry combined. Give them a huge round of applause for having more money than everybody else due to being there first, and finally getting on graphical parity years later. Great stuff!
Considering intel will have more power budget and transistors thrown at gpu than ever before, it's not exactly surprising. Not to mention more money thrown at graphics R&D than the rest of the entire industry combined. Give them a huge round of applause for having more money than everybody else due to being there first, and finally getting on graphical parity years later. Great stuff!
Considering intel will have more power budget and transistors thrown at gpu than ever before, it's not exactly surprising. Not to mention more money thrown at graphics R&D than the rest of the entire industry combined. Give them a huge round of applause for having more money than everybody else due to being there first, and finally getting on graphical parity years later. Great stuff!
Intel's desperation to get IVB and Haswell below 10W is simply because Atom sucks and nobody wants it in tablets. Kabini and Temash will be so much better because they have been aimed properly at this segment while intel attempts to blow up a phone chip and scale down a server chip to fit.
I not sure how your getting away with this but just stop . AMD spent over 5 billion on graphics design and lost all their fabs in doing so . Grow up!Nemesis 1 said:Considering intel will have more power budget and transistors thrown at gpu than ever before, it's not exactly surprising. Not to mention more money thrown at graphics R&D than the rest of the entire industry combined. Give them a huge round of applause for having more money than everybody else due to being there first, and finally getting on graphical parity years later. Great stuff!
I've seen a lot of things in my life, but I've never seen someone hold an argument with themselves on an internet forum before. First time for everything I guess
Your going to have to better than a cherry pick . I need 17 watt Intel Vs 17watt AMD in the same form factor . I not aware of trinity in these form factors . But If you have a link to such bench marks lets see them , I won't hold my breath
The Samsung Series 5's graphics performance was somewhat stronger, thanks to the integrated AMD Radeon-class GPU. In our Crysis 2 graphics tests, the Series 5 managed frame rates of between 11.3 (at high quality settings and 1366-by-768-pixel resolution) and 24.5 (at low quality settings and 800-by-600-pixel resolution) frames per second. This frame rate was slightly higher than the average for the last three Ultrabooks we've tested. All of the laptops we're comparing, including the Series 5, rely on integrated HD graphics
17W Trinity vs 17W and higher Intel cpu's. Note that this is a die harvested Trinity as well, unlike the 17W Ivy Bridge's.Though Intel's Ultrabooks may outperform the AMD Series 5 overall, the Series 5's integrated Radeon HD 7500G graphics are slightly more impressive than Intel's HD 4000 integrated graphics.
In between Core 2 duo and Core 2 quad at the same clock-speed if the game is well threaded.Any word on memory speeds and amount supported?
Wondering how a 4C Kabini would do in gaming. Thoughts?
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2605...u3c_review_amd_takes_on_intels_ultrabook.html
17W Trinity vs 17W and higher Intel cpu's. Note that this is a die harvested Trinity as well, unlike the 17W Ivy Bridge's.
NO NO differant form factor . Trinity is in a larger book . To get to ultra book form factor you need more than intel registered name. The base argument here is form factor trinity can't do tablets . IB can Haswell can . Trinity can't. trinity be hard to put in ultrabook form factor .
You do realise Trinity is already in tablets. You realise that Trinity has better idle power draw than Ivy Bridge? Do you realise...anything?
I don't know if you can buy them but Compal had some on show in the middle of last year. I don't know why anyone would want one regardless, or an Ivy Bridge. Who the hell wants a tablet run by a desktop chip? Makes no sense and a 10W Ivy Bridge is still going to have the problems of being too high on idle draw.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/06/amd-shows-off-its-first-windows-8-concept-tablet-at-computex-201/
Thats not the point, You said to me that I was clueless and didn't know anything . and you said amd had a tablet . No one is putting anything above 10 watts in a tablet . That plans on selling alot of them . Haswell IB won't sell that well in that form factor but they will destroy anything else in that form factor . Hondo was rumored to go into windows 8 tablets . AMD is good at saying me to without delivering the goods, I read the article on compal didn't happen there was also a hybred in the works another fail for AMD
Were are these tablets you speak of .
I don't know if you can buy them but Compal had some on show in the middle of last year. I don't know why anyone would want one regardless, or an Ivy Bridge. Who the hell wants a tablet run by a desktop chip? Makes no sense and a 10W Ivy Bridge is still going to have the problems of being too high on idle draw.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/06/amd-shows-off-its-first-windows-8-concept-tablet-at-computex-201/
If it never sold, I wouldn't consider it being in tablets.
I want a desktop chip in my tablet with SOC power draw. Intel is working on idle power with active sleep states. Intel is working on near threshold voltage and load power.
AMD can only dream about the amount of research Intel is able to do...
You'd think with all that research they'd have been able to win in tablets and phones by now. They can't even beat AMD's 2 year old 40nm APU.
I'd love to see an argument between you and Drashek.