So any reason to think these cores will have more impact than their much hyped, but ultimately underwhelming predecessors?
What world do you live in? Brazos was fine, and was a success for AMD. Jaguar likely will be fine as well, although it will be going up against stronger competition.So any reason to think these cores will have more impact than their much hyped, but ultimately underwhelming predecessors?
What world do you live in? Brazos was fine, and was a success for AMD. Jaguar likely will be fine as well, although it will be going up against stronger competition.
As far as Richland goes, no. Absolutely not. I don't know what they're planning in the graphics department, but the CPU core will remain fundamentally broken until Steamroller. Trinity's Piledriver was "meh," and Richland's cores will continue to be "meh."
So any reason to think these cores will have more impact than their much hyped, but ultimately underwhelming predecessors?
The biggest "problem" that many posters on this board found with Bobcat was it wasn't "fast enough"(faster than ATom but still slow). Now that will be fixed since it will practically be Llano level of x86 performance in 1/2 the TDP and more than 1/2 the die area. Let's see the next excuse .Bobcat made AMD a big bucket of money.
umm you realise that your asking intel to cut there ULV prices 70-80% and even then its till gonna get beaten by kabini in gaming benchmarks just like how the IB Core i7-3667U which has a RRP of $346 already gets it handed to in by the A8-4555M.
you also mean 11 watt.
No its you who are not seeing the big picture here. Intel with haswell runs the full spectrum from top to bottom . Intel can price each market sector with a specific market price. From Tablets to Top end every sector covered and intel in 100% control. The only sector left open is AMD. X86 has won the day and brought its friend with. lol
What excuse intel already has alow cost solution in place to release this year that will have no competion. Intel demoed sometime ago . hype away. This is like the penryn conroe release. No one believed what intel already showe them . You think intel accidenty made a 7 watt Haswell (SOC/SOiX 2 core) with G3 graphics an accident
Haswell ULV isn't going to be low cost. A larger die than Ivy Bridge (especially large with GT3), Crystalwell on-package memory, and a deep bin sort to find chips which will run at those low voltages. And is that 7W the TDP or SDP number?
umm you realise that your asking intel to cut there ULV prices 70-80% and even then its till gonna get beaten by kabini in gaming benchmarks just like how the IB Core i7-3667U which has a RRP of $346 already gets it handed to in by the A8-4555M.
you also mean 11 watt.
Where did that "crystalwell" come from? Was it shown or announced at CES?
You can get ULV chips for 86$ listprice.
which chips, in Australia the consumer price in AUD almost exactly matches the USD RRP +/- 1-2%.
The name is from Semiaccurate, and may well be wrong. But the on-package memory for GT3 is well known and has been reported elsewhere, including Anandtech.
Celeron 887 vs 15W QC Kabini. It would be ugly for poor Celeron .The Celeron 887 for example.
Yet, where is this Crystalwell at CES or any Intel information?
The Celeron 887 for example.
Llano level performance? Kabini is going to be at a severe clock disadvantage -- far from being "practically" the same thing. Let's keep our expectations in check, now.The biggest "problem" that many posters on this board found with Bobcat was it wasn't "fast enough"(faster than ATom but still slow). Now that will be fixed since it will practically be Llano level of x86 performance in 1/2 the TDP and more than 1/2 the die area. Let's see the next excuse .
Yes Llano level. A8-3500m is 1.5Ghz/2.4Ghz Llano QC- PCmark vantage score:~5000pts.Llano level performance? Kabini is going to be at a severe clock disadvantage -- far from being "practically" the same thing. Let's keep our expectations in check, now.
If they lower the price somewhere, they wil have to raise it elsewhere.
AMD has competing products against Intel in most markets, and most towards the consumers. The "hardcore" is all Intel. AMD cannot compete there, CPU computation wise. On the Laptop side, we have to wait for products and see. Or you know, we only need the frequency to get a basic measure of its performance.
I'd hold hyping up the GT3 iGPU, which you obsessively do, until we actually get more info.
Unless you have actual info about the GT3 and want to share it with us. How many EU's? What frequency will it be?
40EU's(?)*8*2*1000Mhz(?) = GFlops
Yes Llano level. A8-3500m is 1.5Ghz/2.4Ghz Llano QC- PCmark vantage score:~5000pts.
QC Kabini A6-5200 scores 5271pts in the same benchmark (former DC Brazos @1.7Ghz scores 2800pts;DC Llano A4-3300M @ 1.9/2.5Ghz scores ~3460pts).
Granted the 3D performance(games) will still be better on Llano 3500M since it has 400SPs but in X86 workloads represented by PCmark Vantage it's clear that at similar clock and core levels, Kabini will be very similar product to Llano(but with much smaller die and with much smaller TDP).
Vantage shows a much more pronounced difference between SSDs. The underlying reason for the higher scores is that the trace is played at full speed, regardless of the speed at which it was recorded.