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NTMBK

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Each to his own, it is up to you what your demands are for a game.


I was replying specifically to the poster who said Richland might be the recommended choice for 1080p. Personally, I am running a HD7770 at 1080p, and that is barely adequate in some current demanding games. I seriously doubt any igp in the next couple of years is going to match that.

Yeah, we probably won't see 7770 quality until we get either DDR4 or triple/quad channel DDR3.
 

Blitzvogel

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Yeah, we probably won't see 7770 quality until we get either DDR4 or triple/quad channel DDR3.

The cost buyers would be absorbing to run a triple channel Trinity or beyond would be better off put into a dedicated graphics card, because of the extra cost of the RAM and the mobo's extra complexity.

I think it's better for AMD to support faster RAM and continually improve the on-die memory system because logically those improvements can trickle into other products. It would also be interesting if AMD beat Intel into supporting DDR4. Sure it would be expensive at first, but it would be a big middle finger in the face of Intel, while giving AMD and outlet for high bandwidth to see their future APUs shine. DDR4 is the ticket to Cape Verde like performance. DDR3's run is coming to an end.

And yes, I too am a fan of high resolutions. Trinity can't really do it with good details unless we're talking Left 4 Dead here.
 
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Piroko

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Richland specs

Pretty impressive clock jump at the same TDP.
I'm a bit impressed at their current execution speed, they seem to be keeping a 12 month update cycle.
The interesting bin is the 5700 to me: A guaranteed 8% CPU and 11% GPU clock bump in the same 65W TDP isn't all that shabby even without any other improvements.
 

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I agree that A10-6700 looks extremely tempting. I hope AMD learned their lesson with Trinity and sends these chips to reviewers instead of the 6800K, as this 65W 6700 will look very good against any i3 currently on the market.
 

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You and I both would like to see AMD reach DDR4 first. Its not all that great being raped by high pricies for newly released dram.
 

Ajay

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I agree that A10-6700 looks extremely tempting. I hope AMD learned their lesson with Trinity and sends these chips to reviewers instead of the 6800K, as this 65W 6700 will look very good against any i3 currently on the market.

Could make for a good HTPC platform. Though if AMD holds out well financially, I think I'd rather wait for Kaveri.
 

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You and I both would like to see AMD reach DDR4 first. Its not all that great being raped by high pricies for newly released dram.

Hey, it's better than having all the ram companies go under; they're already under a lot of pressure.
 

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Couldn't you just get the 6800K and underclock/volt/whateverit to what the 6700 is? Right? And improve the iGPU at the same time also, no?

*clueless of how OC/UC works*
 

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Does anyone think they know what the GPU of A10-6800K will be capable of?

To what discrete card could it be compared to as its equal?
 

Piroko

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Couldn't you just get the 6800K and underclock/volt/whateverit to what the 6700 is? Right? And improve the iGPU at the same time also, no?

*clueless of how OC/UC works*
Technically yes, but you would also spend more $ for a limited gain of performance.

Chadboga, currently we can only guess. As a baseline you could take this review http://www.anandtech.com/show/6332/amd-trinity-a10-5800k-a8-5600k-review-part-1 and add the relative performance upgrades from 13.1 drivers plus 5-10% from higher clocks plus faster ram.
 

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Does anyone think they know what the GPU of A10-6800K will be capable of?

To what discrete card could it be compared to as its equal?

Depend on memory speeds I think. The chip itself is capable of 6670 DDR5 levels or better with enough bandwidth. It won't get close to the 7750 still, that will be Kaveri level graphics.
 

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It might be a light-based rendering implementation. The new Tomb Raider will use this for surface effects.

It looks like it could also be part of the new 3DMark coming on Monday.

Are you ready? 02/04/13 #NZS2

https://twitter.com/AMDGaming/status/297434378865364992

So perhaps 3DMark will be part of the new Never Settle bundle. That's a pretty good move by AMD and Futuremark!


Another tweet here from XFXEurope

Something BIG is coming for gamers on 04/02/12 #XFXEurope #NDA #bundletodiefor

https://twitter.com/XFXEurope/status/297331202183032832

And

@tombraider If you want some very interesting news check us out on 4th Feb - LC fans won't want to miss this...

https://twitter.com/XFXEurope/status/297323460663865345
 
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Abwx

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Kaveri is sheduled for early Q4 2013 , it has been said at CES , i dont know
why some insist that it will be released in 2014 , moreover in Feb/March....

Some other interesting "news" :

According to a media report, AMD intends to unveil its Fusion A-series code-named Richland APUs (also known as Trinity 2.0) for desktops already next month, on March 19, 2013. The mobile versions of the new A-series chips in BGA packaging are projected to emerge sometime in May

The company also allegedly intends to unleash its highly-anticipated Fusion E-series and X-series “Kabini” chips for low-cost notebooks in in late-May – late-June timeframe

AMD is also supposed to release faster versions of its FX-series central processing units sometime in June, boosting clock-speeds

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/di...rocessor_Refresh_Schedule_Gets_Published.html
 

CHADBOGA

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Kaveri is sheduled for early Q4 2013 , it has been said at CES , i dont know
why some insist that it will be released in 2014 , moreover in Feb/March....
AMD have a bad habit of being late with their CPU release dates.

I too don't expect one will be able to buy a Kaveri APU from Newegg till 2014, maybe even as late as Q2 2014.
 

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AMD have a bad habit of being late with their CPU release dates.

I too don't expect one will be able to buy a Kaveri APU from Newegg till 2014, maybe even as late as Q2 2014.

They seem pretty well on schedule with their current products (or so it seems). I didn't expect Richland at all when it was announced, but it is a pleasant surprise to see AMD being aggressive about Intel-like ticks & tocks.
 

Olikan

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They seem pretty well on schedule with their current products (or so it seems). I didn't expect Richland at all when it was announced, but it is a pleasant surprise to see AMD being aggressive about Intel-like ticks & tocks.

well, one year delay.... steamroller was originally planned for 2012
 

mikk

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Kaveri is sheduled for early Q4 2013 , it has been said at CES , i dont know
why some insist that it will be released in 2014 , moreover in Feb/March....


Because AMD said they will start shipping Kaveri very late in Q4. You can add 2 months or so for a hard launch. It means earliest in February if all goes well and planned.
 

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I too don't expect one will be able to buy a Kaveri APU from Newegg till 2014, maybe even as late as Q2 2014.

They should release Kaveri on track, because some new program functions and game optimizations will won't run very well without the new HSA features. The developers will be pissed off, if they don't release the hardware for the softwares in time.
 

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They should release Kaveri on track, because some new program functions and game optimizations will won't run very well without the new HSA features. The developers will be pissed off, if they don't release the hardware for the softwares in time.

I'm sure Kaveri will be the last of the first HSA featured products.
Jaguar 2Q2013 -> Sea Island 3~4Q2013 -> Kaveri 4Q2013
 
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