I'm sure Kaveri will be the last of the first HSA featured products.
Jaguar 2Q2013 -> Sea Island 3~4Q2013 -> Kaveri 4Q2013
Kaveri is finished design for some time now.
well, one year delay.... steamroller was originally planned for 2012
AMD have a bad habit of being late with their CPU release dates.
I too don't expect one will be able to buy a Kaveri APU from Newegg till 2014, maybe even as late as Q2 2014.
AMD expects to start shipping Kaveri in a late Q4 timeframe this year. These parts will be desktop at first and will transition to mobile in 2014. AMD wants (and needs) to get these parts out in a timely manner, and they are pulling in the launch as much as possible. Hence the desktop first release while they refine production to be able to adequately address the mobile space.
AMD have a bad habit of being late with their CPU release dates.
I too don't expect one will be able to buy a Kaveri APU from Newegg till 2014, maybe even as late as Q2 2014.
Read again what he wrote, he quoted that desktop parts of Kaveri will be shipped first. So now the question is: Were desktop parts of Richland shipped during CES, or were these maybe mobile chips?read your own source, shipping in late 2013. AMD said Richland was already shipping at CES, but we won't see it until March. That suggests around 2-3 month difference.
That is why we can expect to see Kaveri available in Feb/March.
They have consistently delivered in their history wich
cant be summarized as Phenom or BD delayed launches.
They may well be in time given that they will launch
the easiest parts first.
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Shows-and-Expos/AMD-CES-2013-Temash-Kabini-and-Kaveri-side-Sea-Islands
Read again what he wrote, he quoted that desktop parts of Kaveri will be shipped first. So now the question is: Were desktop parts of Richland shipped during CES, or were these maybe mobile chips?
read your own source, shipping in late 2013. AMD said Richland was already shipping at CES, but we won't see it until March. That suggests around 2-3 month difference.
That is why we can expect to see Kaveri available in Feb/March.
Would you kindly remove my name from that quote I never made that statement
Why would I suppose that software is going to be fling in from All directions for HSA.
Because HSA is more than just Intel. Why is that not logical enough for you?
HSA is a "standard" well, trying to be. But it sure has the "support" needed to be one.
AVX2 is...AVX2. All Intel at the moment.
HSA is HSA. AMD just putting out the first stuff out for it.
HSA is the Linux in OS's and the OpenGL in Graphics, its the OpenCL in Physics and the OpenAL in Audio. Open for usage by anyone who supports it, not, just Intel.
lately, i am beliving that HSA will help more ARM and consoles, than AMD itself
Integrating a GCN iGPU and some AMD64 CPU cores on the same die doesn't mean that the product will support HSA extensions. You need an HSA-MMU and an HSA capable integrated northbridge for it. Only Kaveri will have these in 2013.I'm sure Kaveri will be the last of the first HSA featured products.
Jaguar 2Q2013 -> Sea Island 3~4Q2013 -> Kaveri 4Q2013
AVX2 and HSA are not the same thing. Intel can support AVX2 from HSA. They better do this because the only way to use AVX2 properly is OpenCL. But this is a relatively low-level API.Why would I suppose that software is going to be fling in from All directions for HSA . That means what than Haswell is needed now because AVX2 software is waiting on hardware or TSX is ready with software. Whats holding up haswell when All this great new software is setting here with no hardware .
Integrating a GCN iGPU and some AMD64 CPU cores on the same die doesn't mean that the product will support HSA extensions. You need an HSA-MMU and an HSA capable integrated northbridge for it. Only Kaveri will have these in 2013.
When they say desktop . Your not thinking new egg are you . I mean Dell HP lenovo Sony . They won't get their chips first ?
I remember some slides say that Jaguar has some HSA features, and the next gen GPU's also. While Kaveri would have full support. (Just coming from memory)
AVX2 and HSA are not the same thing. Intel can support AVX2 from HSA. They better do this because the only way to use AVX2 properly is OpenCL. But this is a relatively low-level API
You have A link for that . I don't believe it . AVX2 is intel exclusive for now It would suite intel better to just recompile and not use HSA. Intel can use Hsa When it NEEDS to . NOW would be stupid . On recompiles Intel has the prefix of vec advantage that AMD will never ever have Prefix of vex it will remain intel exclusive . Intel may have to share the instruction set . But the prefix of vex is a combination of instruction set AMD can use . Hardware and Software INTEL does not have to give this to AMD and they will not.
Actually, AMD are already using VEX encoding - they changed their proposed "SSE5" instructions to match the new encoding, for instance in their FMA4 instructions.