Rick Perry attempts to physically intimidate Ron Paul

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Theb

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We'll defend Perry on his record. Oh, wait, that's quite a mired mess.

We'll defend Perry on his rhetoric. Oh, wait, that could all be lies.

We'll defend Perry on his... behavior...? Odd approach. Though it does speak to who the man is. Does he come across as a simple authoritarian, is this an example of that?

I do want to believe what the man says, but he makes that quite difficult. Past experience leads me to question if a man is really as conservative and freedom loving as they claim to be.

Is this an example of him being a small man? Small in character that is. I'm not even really sure what it would mean for his policy. Anyone here think they can decipher it for us?

My take is that he's a bully whose fragile ego can't tolerate someone describing his own behavior to him. His record indicates he leans to left of where the Republican party is right now. He also seems to have an authoritarian streak.

Executive summary: A handsome Richard Nixon.
 

Thump553

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That's an insult to Nixon, who was the second worst President in post WWII USA.

I am a bit taken aback by how much people are getting bent out of shape about Perry touching the revered Doctor Paul. That's a tactic certain politicians and other salesmen do all the time-invading your "personal space" in order to emphasis a point. It's not like he put a bullet in Paul's head.

(I can't believe I'm defending Perry-that must come from the 12% of me that agrees with Palin).
 

nageov3t

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I appreciate the amount of context and information that was provided before accusing Rick Perry of assaulting Ron Paul.
 

kage69

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That's an insult to Nixon, who was the second worst President in post WWII USA.

I am a bit taken aback by how much people are getting bent out of shape about Perry touching the revered Doctor Paul. That's a tactic certain politicians and other salesmen do all the time-invading your "personal space" in order to emphasis a point. It's not like he put a bullet in Paul's head.

(I can't believe I'm defending Perry-that must come from the 12% of me that agrees with Palin).


I understand what you're saying, but I think you are not seeing the difference between a condescending smile and clap on the back ("Ooookay buddy, whatever you say lol") and what Perry did, which was physically restrain him by grabbing and holding him, not to mention the wagging of his finger in Paul's face (that's more of a "See here you prick, I am entitled to treat you like a misbehaving child!)

The touching aspect isn't what people are getting bent of of shape over, it's the clear lack of respect and decorum on Perry's part displayed in a physical manner. If I were in Paul's shoes that asshat Perry would've lost the use of his arm for awhile. American politics' first meeting with omote kote gyaku. I can see the campaign add now...

"I'm Ron Paul, and I approve of this dick getting his shit snapped on TV..."
 

kage69

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I appreciate the amount of context and information that was provided before accusing Rick Perry of assaulting Ron Paul.


Duly noted.

Do you appreciate the amount of context and information that was provided before citing Perry's attempt at physically intimidating Ron Paul?

That would be, you know, more applicable to the OP...
 

Infohawk

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Paul himself is laughing this off:

http://thehill.com/video/campaign/1...d-confrontation-with-rick-perry-at-gop-debate

The incident apparently made such a strong impression on him that he doesn't even remember the conversation.

Perry is a total jackass, but I don't think much can be made of these still photographs without context.

- wolf

I'm not convinced either way but Paul's denial doesn't tell me much. I don't think Ron Paul would want to admit it if he were bullied.

If this is true though Perry deserves to be attacked on it.
 

woolfe9999

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I'm not convinced either way but Paul's denial doesn't tell me much. I don't think Ron Paul would want to admit it if he were bullied.

If this is true though Perry deserves to be attacked on it.

Yeah I can see your point. However, I consider Paul to be relatively honest as compared to most politicians, even though I think he's a kook ideologically speaking. So I'd tend to credit his comments more so than most.
 

trenchfoot

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Thump553's got a point I could agree with within the context given. However, IMO, pointing a finger at me less than a foot away from my face and holding down one of my hands to prevent me from using it to physically defend myself is a coward's way of making a point.

Also, If someone put their chin down (Perry, as pictured) while approaching/standing directly at/in front of me close enough that I could pop a pimple in their eyes, I would consider it a defensive/agressive stance and I would react accordingly by slowly and calmly bumping noses or have each other's eyebrow meet up and hold hands. That he risked inviting that kind of a response at that moment in time showed lack of judgement and lack of emotional control. Hot tempered? Probably.

Perry's stance as pictured in that confrontation told me a whole lot about his nature, especially that part of his nature that allowed him to let his emotions get in the way of maintaining his situational awareness. Not good. Not good at all. If he were the President of these here US of A, REALLY not good at all.
 
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brencat

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Perry, owning like a boss. Just like what he's going to do to Obama.

God help us all. Perry seems like a decent man but certainly not presidential material. Ron Paul was kinda kookey in this last debate. Gingrich, then Romney looked best in my opinion.
 

Macamus Prime

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lol, you are something else - bashing a quasi-republican for placing his hand on a peer's wrist, but practically defending the union thugs in another thread.

You are right; I should be OK with the President of the US to be a strong arming goon bastard. It worked so well. I mean, look how we cleaned up the Middle East with Bush's cowboy antics,... remember; Mission Accomplished.

And, leave it up to "OBummer" to ice the beautiful being responsible for 9/11. Yeah, ReTHUGlicans to the fucking T; mindless morons too busy acting like spoiled school yard bullies instead of thinking like real leaders and men.
 

Lithium381

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it looks to me from that picture that he's holding his wrist very gently in a caring sort of way and pointing out that Dr Paul has something in his hair......
 

Fern

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Paul himself is laughing this off:

http://thehill.com/video/campaign/1...d-confrontation-with-rick-perry-at-gop-debate

The incident apparently made such a strong impression on him that he doesn't even remember the conversation.

Perry is a total jackass, but I don't think much can be made of these still photographs without context.

- wolf

Rand Paul was on TV last commenting about this. Apparently Perry and Paul are surprised how the media is running with this. Paul said it wasn't a heated exchange at all, that it was a friendly one.

Fern
 

boomerang

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Rand Paul was on TV last commenting about this. Apparently Perry and Paul are surprised how the media is running with this. Paul said it wasn't a heated exchange at all, that it was a friendly one.

Fern
There you go, ruining a perfectly good circle jerk.
 

bfdd

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That's an insult to Nixon, who was the second worst President in post WWII USA.

I am a bit taken aback by how much people are getting bent out of shape about Perry touching the revered Doctor Paul. That's a tactic certain politicians and other salesmen do all the time-invading your "personal space" in order to emphasis a point. It's not like he put a bullet in Paul's head.

(I can't believe I'm defending Perry-that must come from the 12% of me that agrees with Palin).

Fucking kidding. Seriously, Nixon wasn't all that bad at all. He was a dipshit, but he wasn't an awful president.
 
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