Ridley Scott's "Prometheus"

[tboo]

Wow, Im willing to bet a lot of posters in this thread write fan fiction for the Syfy channel

 

[Ichinisan]

Good thing you weren't in charge of the expedition. Don't you remember how the temperature inside dropped way down and they were freezing cold? Also, aliens. The Prometheus was a known safe location. The structure/engineer ship was not known safe, and is proven to be unsafe when the snake thing kills the mapper guy and his friend.

The storm certainly wasn't "safe" for the others.

The biologist and geologist/"mapper guy" didn't have to die. There's no good explanation for them entering the room with the jars of black ooze. Remember the 2,000-year-old head-less Engineer that freaked them out in the first place? Why did they go back to it and step over it to get into the ooze room? They just weren't afraid of it anymore...for no particular reason. They also weren't afraid of a living alien penis-vagina-cobra-face-hugger and practically stuck their faces in it.

 

[Ichinisan]

Just getting back from seeing it. Will read through some of this thread now, but i wanted to give the detailed Jeeebus review while it's fresh.

And here it is: "the fuck?"

This.

 

[Jeeebus]

ok, so is there any explanation for wtf the first scene was about? Giant alien dude watches a ship take off, drinks some shit, and falls apart. Errr... ok?

 

[preslove]

Saw it last night. I think this movie is the perfect example of script development hell. Too many writers had their hands on it. I bet Scott just decided to go with the shit he had because he was afraid he'd die before he could make it.

All the characters were idiots or inexplicably evil. Dave the robot's actions were the worst. His motivation was completely unexplained, which is a deal breaker, considering the plot of the movie hinged on his actions. Movie was absolute shit.

 

[Dr. Zaus]

ok, so is there any explanation for wtf the first scene was about? Giant alien dude watches a ship take off, drinks some shit, and falls apart. Errr... ok?

They cut the part where God is actually a suicidal alien that created life on earth but then Jesus the alien came back to tell us to knock-off our shit; so we killed him... which is why the alien on the craft was going to drop ninja-turtle mutigen on earth.

 

[Ichinisan]

ok, so is there any explanation for wtf the first scene was about? Giant alien dude watches a ship take off, drinks some shit, and falls apart. Errr... ok?

Pretty sure they're implying that it's how the Engineers seed life on planets. It could be Earth, but it could also be any other planet with similar composition.

 

[Ichinisan]

Saw it last night. I think this movie is the perfect example of script development hell. Too many writers had their hands on it. I bet Scott just decided to go with the shit he had because he was afraid he'd die before he could make it.

All the characters were idiots or inexplicably evil. Dave the robot's actions were the worst. His motivation was completely unexplained, which is a deal breaker, considering the plot of the movie hinged on his actions. Movie was absolute shit.

I agree with your assessment, except for the David character. Most of his actions were explained because he was following orders from Weyland, and the rest of the crew wasn't even aware Weyland was on-board.

 

[preslove]

I agree with your assessment, except for the David character. Most of his actions were explained because he was following orders from Weyland, and the rest of the crew wasn't even aware Weyland was on-board.

Infecting the doctor wasn't explained at all. In fact, doing so seriously compromised the mission, and could have led to weyland dying before meeting his maker.

 

[Ichinisan]

Infecting the doctor wasn't explained at all. In fact, doing so seriously compromised the mission, and could have led to weyland dying before meeting his maker.

It was explained. David spoke to Weyland with the visor thing and Weyland wanted to find out if the black ooze had a positive or negative effect on people. He commanded David to "try harder."

David sort-of gave Charlie Holloway a chance to back out. He asked Holloway what he would do for a chance to meet his makers, to which Holloway replied: "Anything." Only then did David dip his finger in the glass and hand it to Holloway.

Still, there were lots of actions and motivations in the movie that were not explained...I don't think they center around the David character.

 

[The Boston Dangler]

so, this movie pretty much looks like charlize theron but sounds and acts like jar jar binks?

 

[cKGunslinger]

so, this movie pretty much looks like charlize theron but sounds and acts like jar jar binks?

Not bad, although I thinks this is aslo accurate:

"This movie pretty much looks like Charlize Theron, but acts like... Charlize Theron in this movie."

Her character was pretty, but pointless. Like whats-her-face in Tron Legacy.

 

[CZroe]

ok, so is there any explanation for wtf the first scene was about? Giant alien dude watches a ship take off, drinks some shit, and falls apart. Errr... ok?

Of all the things that you could be rightly confused about with this movie, you choose the thing that needed no explanation. Did you not recognize the visualization of DNA replicating, the beginnings of cellular mitosis, and multi-cellular organisms on a watery but visibly lifeless planet (rocks and water, no plants or animals seen)?

I guess you could miss that if you don't recognize those things. That said, the people asking why the medipod thing was calibrated for a man are just dense. It was considered beyond "expensive" and the world's richest MAN was secretly on board and he happened to be the woman's father.

 

[The Boston Dangler]

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2012/06/science-gets-burned-by-prometheus/

links to some pretty damning reviews. strangely, redlettermedia was the kindest i've seen.

p.s.
sorry if it's been asked before but,

given the name prometheus, what is the metaphorical fire stolen from the gods and given to man? please don't say "life"

 

[CZroe]

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2012/06/science-gets-burned-by-prometheus/

links to some pretty damning reviews. strangely, redlettermedia was the kindest i've seen.

p.s.
sorry if it's been asked before but,

given the name prometheus, what is the metaphorical fire stolen from the gods and given to man? please don't say "life"

Some theorize that the fluid only produces negative life in our selfish sphere of influence (Xenomorph, squid) and produces positive life in their self-sacrificing uses (seeds planets; dies for our sins), so their technology should not be granted to us.

 

[BassBomb]

Some theorize that the fluid only produces monsters in our sphere of influence and produces life in theirs, so their technology should not be granted to us.

Maybe it was rogue engineers who seeded life and taught the humans... Hence the "stolen" aspect

The engineer race finds out and proceeds to attempt to destroy the humans with the Aliens only to be run over

 

[The Boston Dangler]

is this the same black ooze as from the x files (which was also illogical hackery)?

so the space jockey seeded a young earth with his dna, but it's only responsible for humans?

the space jockey's dna is identical to humans', yet the space jockies are clearly not human? even human dna isn't identical to another human's

 

[K1052]

Some theorize that the fluid only produces negative life in our selfish sphere of influence (Xenomorph, squid) and produces positive life in their self-sacrificing uses (seeds planets; dies for our sins), so their technology should not be granted to us.

Given the entirely negative effects of the ooze on the Engineers at the facility (and other species of limited evolution like the mealworms) I'm not sure that's the case.

 

[K1052]

so the space jockey seeded a young earth with his dna, but it's only responsible for humans?

the space jockey's dna is identical to humans', yet the space jockies are clearly not human? even human dna isn't identical to another human's

It wasn't explicitly stated in the beginning that the planet in question was earth, merely that the Engineers were seeding life.

They are a humanoid lifeform, I would have been happier if they clarified how close the match was exactly. Presumably is a small variance that would account for their further advanced state.

 

[CZroe]

Given the entirely negative effects of the ooze on the Engineers at the facility (and other species of limited evolution like the mealworms) I'm not sure that's the case.

You are making assumptions. The mural and the 2,000 year reference and their heading to wipe out Earth swings points right back to a human encounter. Also, we never see what they were running from. They ran *TO* the fluid.

 

[SSSnail]

This is the movie - someone smeared shit all over themselves while poking their eyes out.

This is some of you guys - oh wow, that's so deep! Where did the shit come from? What's the shit made of? Why was that person smearing shit on him/herself? What made them do it? What's the significant of poking their eyes out?

Look, it was a shit movie, horribad from start to finish. Take it as that and move on.

 

[Ichinisan]

This is the movie - someone smeared shit all over themselves while poking their eyes out.

This is some of you guys - oh wow, that's so deep! Where did the shit come from? What's the shit made of? Why was that person smearing shit on him/herself? What made them do it? What's the significant of poking their eyes out?

Look, it was a shit movie, horribad from start to finish. Take it as that and move on.

Pretty much this.

Only there are a few things people are confused by that shouldn't be confusing.

 

[SSSnail]

Pretty much this.

Only there are a few things people are confused by that shouldn't be confusing.

I forgot to add - bankrolled by the Vatican.

So a shit movie, bankrolled by the Vatican.

 

[The Boston Dangler]

I forgot to add - bankrolled by the Vatican.

So a shit movie, bankrolled by the Vatican.

i demand a quality link for that

 

[SSSnail]

i demand a quality link for that

Sorry, just a logical deduction from the heavy stench of creationism and Catholicism from the beginning to end of the movie that made me say that. It stunk so bad, it took a lot of me not to walk out of the theater. I endured it just so I can say that it was a complete heap of manure, from start to finish.