Rigging the Election - Video I: Clinton Campaign and DNC Incite Violence at Trump Rallies

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Knowing

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You claimed an admission when there was none.

Bird dogging and violence are not the same thing no matter how hard you try to conflate the two.

Hilary's emails were cryptologically signed. Only three options now:
Someone impersonated Donna and sent emails to Hillary containing information that very few people could plausibly know. Hillary's server was hacked exposing classified information and the hackers had the foresight to steal the signing keys so they could invent emails at a later date proving unequivocally that her forbidden server was owned 17 ways to sunday. Finally, Brazile did in fact send the email.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ErrataRob/status/789621071200813056

So what is your definition of bird dogging?

To denounce it. That's beyond obvious.

Why bring up violence if bird dogging is nonviolent?

Do you think we'll ever get a full transcript from O'Keefe? Do you think a full, raw, transcript is relevant to the claims he is making with his released video? Would you ask him, yourself, to make it available?

After there's a denial. We've been through this. If it didn't happen then there's nothing to lose and everything to gain with a denial.

I prefer to read where I can Ctrl+f the thing someone claimed happened. Particularly of it happened on the record and a transcript is created as a master of course. Note that when I posted a video, I showed the time at which what I was taking about happened.

Why no reciprocation? Why the name calling?
 

DrDoug

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Instead of watching the lies of O'Keefe how about some real investigative journalism:

Trump Super PAC Rep caught on camera soliciting illegal foreign donations, promising money will purchase influence. https://t.co/iXo64FOfVE

— Frank & Steinly (@goddamnedfrank) October 24, 2016

That thing that they allege Clinton is doing is exactly what they ARE doing for Trump. Nothing like soliciting foreign money to take down a candidate that you accuse of accepting foreign money.

It's to the point that if the Republicans accuse the Democrats of something then you know that's exactly what the Republicans doing. Oh, and this for a bit of humor:

As the late Johnnie Cochran might have said about Donald Trump: “If he’s a rectum, you must not elect ‘im.”

— Stephen King (@StephenKing) October 24, 2016
 

Jhhnn

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Hilary's emails were cryptologically signed. Only three options now:
Someone impersonated Donna and sent emails to Hillary containing information that very few people could plausibly know. Hillary's server was hacked exposing classified information and the hackers had the foresight to steal the signing keys so they could invent emails at a later date proving unequivocally that her forbidden server was owned 17 ways to sunday. Finally, Brazile did in fact send the email.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ErrataRob/status/789621071200813056

So what is your definition of bird dogging?



Why bring up violence if bird dogging is nonviolent?



After there's a denial. We've been through this. If it didn't happen then there's nothing to lose and everything to gain with a denial.

I prefer to read where I can Ctrl+f the thing someone claimed happened. Particularly of it happened on the record and a transcript is created as a master of course. Note that when I posted a video, I showed the time at which what I was taking about happened.

Why no reciprocation? Why the name calling?

It's really ridiculous to think that Clinton wouldn't have a position & wouldn't anticipate death penalty questions well in advance. It was inevitable that the question would be asked so she's ready to answer it. If somebody at CNN tipped Brazile off that it would be asked at the town hall they would have merely been confirming the obvious.

Brazile: They'll ask about the death penalty.

Clinton: I'm ready for that.

Y'all are really, really reaching with this.
 

Knowing

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It's really ridiculous to think that Clinton wouldn't have a position & wouldn't anticipate death penalty questions well in advance. It was inevitable that the question would be asked so she's ready to answer it. If somebody at CNN tipped Brazile off that it would be asked at the town hall they would have merely been confirming the obvious.

Brazile: They'll ask about the death penalty.

Clinton: I'm ready for that.

Y'all are really, really reaching with this.
She didn't say, 'they'll ask about the death penalty.' She said she got questions ahead of time and sent an exact quote of embargoed content.

Good thing she didn't deny it I guess. Now what else are they not denying, let me think...
 

Jhhnn

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She didn't say, 'they'll ask about the death penalty.' She said she got questions ahead of time and sent an exact quote of embargoed content.

Good thing she didn't deny it I guess. Now what else are they not denying, let me think...

Reaching... reaching... reaching...

It doesn't matter how the question is phrased if the person being questioned already has an answer.

But, Oh God! Collusion! Collusion between the media & a political campaign!

Yeh, since the dawn of the Republic. Dunno if you can get over yourself or not but you should give it a try.
 

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Green Party candidate for President that is taking votes from Hillary (similar to Gary Johnson).
No she isn't. I know that as a Trump supporter you aren't big on thinking, but stop embarrassing yourself. No one on this planet who matters gives a shit what Jill Stein thinks. A dead gorilla actually does better in the polls then Jill Stein.

Plus she is repeating russian talking points, proving she's as much as a russian shill as you are.
 

Knowing

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Reaching... reaching... reaching...

It doesn't matter how the question is phrased if the person being questioned already has an answer.

But, Oh God! Collusion! Collusion between the media & a political campaign!

Yeh, since the dawn of the Republic. Dunno if you can get over yourself or not but you should give it a try.
Donna wasn't working for CNN at the time. Someone is colluding and presently there's only evidence of one side colluding.

Does that qualify as rigged?
 

Jhhnn

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Donna wasn't working for CNN at the time. Someone is colluding and presently there's only evidence of one side colluding.

Does that qualify as rigged?

It qualifies as bullshit.

Ultimately, the question posed about the death penalty at the town hall was different than the one in the email

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles...ry-clinton-early-access-to-town-hall-question

As I pointed out, it's obvious that Clinton would have an answer for any death penalty question.
 

Knowing

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It qualifies as bullshit.



http://www.usnews.com/news/articles...ry-clinton-early-access-to-town-hall-question

As I pointed out, it's obvious that Clinton would have an answer for any death penalty question.
It does qualify as bullshit! There you go! There. you. go.

Yes, she could have been prepared. We don't know if she would have because that door is closed now.
But, when one door closes - another opens. What else might they be lying about? What happens when a conspiracy theory isn't a theory anymore?
 

Jhhnn

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It does qualify as bullshit! There you go! There. you. go.

Yes, she could have been prepared. We don't know if she would have because that door is closed now.
But, when one door closes - another opens. What else might they be lying about? What happens when a conspiracy theory isn't a theory anymore?

Yeh, "she could have been prepared" is beyond obvious concerning what has been a political hot spot for decades.

The rest is just the usual conspiracy theorizing, the usual "what is she hiding?" line of speculation & innuendo just like Benghazi & the rest.
 

MrPickins

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Yes, she could have been prepared. We don't know if she would have because that door is closed now.
But, when one door closes - another opens. What else might they be lying about? What happens when a conspiracy theory isn't a theory anymore?



Seriously.


Yeh, "she could have been prepared" is beyond obvious concerning what has been a political hot spot for decades.

The rest is just the usual conspiracy theorizing, the usual "what is she hiding?" line of speculation & innuendo just like Benghazi & the rest.

The speculation is getting tiring, especially when nothing is ever really found.
 

Knowing

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Yeh, "she could have been prepared" is beyond obvious concerning what has been a political hot spot for decades.

The rest is just the usual conspiracy theorizing, the usual "what is she hiding?" line of speculation & innuendo just like Benghazi & the rest.

"The rest." Yes, now we're back on track with the Clinton way - deny everything that isn't proven, scapegoat everything that is and when you're finally caught - claim that we've covered it enough and bury it.

Until the 21st this was a conspiracy theory. I'll bet the impartial press is covering this story now that its undeniable... Oh wait, no, they aren't.



Seriously.

The speculation is getting tiring, especially when nothing is ever really found.

What speculation? It's proven. There's money on it if you want to break dkim. Until then, non repudiation is going to be another factor that confounds the people who just can't cyber security.
 

agent00f

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"The rest." Yes, now we're back on track with the Clinton way - deny everything that isn't proven, scapegoat everything that is and when you're finally caught - claim that we've covered it enough and bury it.

Until the 21st this was a conspiracy theory. I'll bet the impartial press is covering this story now that its undeniable... Oh wait, no, they aren't.

What speculation? It's proven. There's money on it if you want to break dkim. Until then, non repudiation is going to be another factor that confounds the people who just can't cyber security.

The desperation is quite obvious when your guy is a complete degenerate and all you got is someone might've send a typical debate question to someone she knows.
 

Knowing

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The desperation is quite obvious when your guy is a complete degenerate and all you got is someone might've send a typical debate question to someone she knows.

My guy? Do you know something about Jill Stein that the great majority of people don't know? Is (s)he hiding a y chromosome?

"Might've"
Yes, if math decided to take the day off when Brazile banged that email out on her 'I Pad' she might not have sent it. I for one don't remember the basic rules of matter staying in bed with a cough anytime recently. How did she get it if she wasn't working for CNN? How did she get the exact wording?
 

agent00f

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My guy? Do you know something about Jill Stein that the great majority of people don't know? Is (s)he hiding a y chromosome?

"Might've"
Yes, if math decided to take the day off when Brazile banged that email out on her 'I Pad' she might not have sent it. I for one don't remember the basic rules of matter staying in bed with a cough anytime recently. How did she get it if she wasn't working for CNN? How did she get the exact wording?

Just a heads up that your history of posts on guns and basically else in line with the GOP is archived for posterity.
 

jackstar7

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Just a heads up that your history of posts on guns and basically else in line with the GOP is archived for posterity.
You're just giving him the opening to say that like Obama, he "evolved" in his thinking.

That's not what happened, of course... but they're just words. Just words.
 

zinfamous

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So now anticipating a question on an issue that has been involved in every presidential debate cycle since, at least, the 70s, is somehow cheating?

Maybe the real difference is that one candidate is adequately prepared whereas the other candidate simply assumes that greatness and smartness is obtained through osmosis and a refusal to sleep. But no, it makes far more sense to charge one with conspiracy and cheating. That makes sense. Fail to prepare for even the simplest stuff, get beat, claim the other person cheated. Always worked well in High school! Never give up, I guess.
 

Jhhnn

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My guy? Do you know something about Jill Stein that the great majority of people don't know? Is (s)he hiding a y chromosome?

"Might've"
Yes, if math decided to take the day off when Brazile banged that email out on her 'I Pad' she might not have sent it. I for one don't remember the basic rules of matter staying in bed with a cough anytime recently. How did she get it if she wasn't working for CNN? How did she get the exact wording?

Why does any of that matter? Let's say it's all true. So what? It's a question that any sane presidential nominee will have an answer for, well in advance of it ever being asked.

It just means Brazile likely won't be working for CNN at any time in the future. They knew she was a Democratic Party insider when they hired her. Hell, that's why they did it, to gain her perspective.

But, let's just concern troll our way into making it more than a very small hill of beans, shall we?

Jill Stein?

We certainly need an assault weapons ban, but we need more than that. There are some 260 people every day who are injured or killed by gun violence, so it's very important that we ban assault weapons, for starters, but there are other steps that need to be taken quickly. Local communities need to be able to regulate guns, as needed, to deal with their violence. So, we need to keep guns out of the hands of criminals. We need background checks, so that the mentally ill are not possessing and using guns. And we need to end the gun show loopholes, as well, because there's far too much violence from guns, which is not needed.

http://www.ontheissues.org/2012/Jill_Stein_Gun_Control.htm

Square that with your own views on the subject.
 

Knowing

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Why does any of that matter? Let's say it's all true. So what? It's a question that any sane presidential nominee will have an answer for, well in advance of it ever being asked.

It just means Brazile likely won't be working for CNN at any time in the future. They knew she was a Democratic Party insider when they hired her. Hell, that's why they did it, to gain her perspective.

But, let's just concern troll our way into making it more than a very small hill of beans, shall we?

Jill Stein?



http://www.ontheissues.org/2012/Jill_Stein_Gun_Control.htm

Square that with your own views on the subject.
Why were you so invested in arguing that it didn't happen, when you're now arguing that one candidate receiving insider information from a private organization [that simultaneously claims that it being hacked shakes the very foundation of the edifice *and* that it's okay they broke their own rules and screwed Bernie Sanders because they aren't government] is okay?

In defense of the Hillary presidency, anything is permissible. That really gives me a warm fuzzy of confidence that her tenure as commander in chief is going to be entirely on the up and up.

I don't think Jill will win, but I can vote for her with a clear conscience and in doing so hopefully force change within a generation showing that a third party can be feasible.
 

Jhhnn

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Why were you so invested in arguing that it didn't happen, when you're now arguing that one candidate receiving insider information from a private organization [that simultaneously claims that it being hacked shakes the very foundation of the edifice *and* that it's okay they broke their own rules and screwed Bernie Sanders because they aren't government] is okay?

In defense of the Hillary presidency, anything is permissible. That really gives me a warm fuzzy of confidence that her tenure as commander in chief is going to be entirely on the up and up.

I don't think Jill will win, but I can vote for her with a clear conscience and in doing so hopefully force change within a generation showing that a third party can be feasible.

I haven't argued that it never happened but rather that it never mattered. The insider information about an obvious death penalty question didn't mean jack shit.

You're obviously dodging the question wrt Stein but the speculation & innuendo are terrific trollery.
 

Knowing

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I haven't argued that it never happened but rather that it never mattered. The insider information about an obvious death penalty question didn't mean jack shit.

You're obviously dodging the question wrt Stein but the speculation & innuendo are terrific trollery.
So you don't think that insider information is an unfair factor?

How am I dodging the stein question?
 

Knowing

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In this instance? Obviously not & I've already explained why.



I quoted her on guns, asked your opinion wrt that. You dodged, obviously.
So what you're saying is that this rule break is minor and you're sure that there are no other rule breaks like the massive number of other Hillary related rule breaks because this, like all those others, is an isolated incident?

That actually works in your head? (Serious question)

I disagree completely with Stein's position on guns. If I thought she would win this election and be able to affect policy in that direction I'd vote for someone else.
 

Jhhnn

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So what you're saying is that this rule break is minor and you're sure that there are no other rule breaks like the massive number of other Hillary related rule breaks because this, like all those others, is an isolated incident?

That actually works in your head? (Serious question)

I disagree completely with Stein's position on guns. If I thought she would win this election and be able to affect policy in that direction I'd vote for someone else.

I'm saying that you're doing a marvelous job of trying to puff this up into something it's not. Brazile wasn't revealing anything that she & the Clinton camp didn't already know about. She knew that when she did it. No advantage was gained. Or is that too simple?

And you're voting for Stein because she's the not Hillary, even though she's just a much nuttier & further left version of Hillary? Somebody who, if she got the job, wouldn't have the slightest idea what to do with it?

Funny that, particularly considering that you don't come across as being left leaning in the slightest.
 
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