Consistency demands that everyone holding a contract with him (Food Network, Target, etc.) drop him immediately.
What contracts does he have? Besides the one with the Eagles.Consistency demands that everyone holding a contract with him (Food Network, Target, etc.) drop him immediately.
The "whites cannot try to discuss or try to solve black problems because they are not black and thus do not understand black problems" argument.
Is it too presumptuous for a white person to tell black people that it might go a little way towards a better life if black people stopped using the N-word?
MotionMan
I'm white, so I may be way off base here, but here's my thinking. White people have a 200+ year history of institutionalized racism in this country, whether it was in the form of legalized slavery, legalized segregation, legalized poll taxes and tests designed to disenfranchise black people from voting, racial profiling by police groups, etc. It's a problem that continues to this day. And this all stemmed from the foolish belief hundreds of years ago that black people were inherently inferior to white people, especially when it came to mental acuity. Now, given that history, if I were a black person and a white person told me, "see, what you blacks need to do is...", I would see that as just one more example of white society treating me as though I am lower than them, as though I am less intelligent, as though I need them to save me from myself. That's the problem with institutionalized racism; you may not even realize how condescending you sound when you say a sentence like "Is it too presumptuous for a white person to tell black people that it might go a little way towards a better life if black people stopped using the N-word?"
I could be wrong; I'm white, I have no idea what it's like to be black in America. But seeing white people offer solutions to black America as if the past few hundred years of history never happened just strikes me as incredibly insulting.
I'm white, so I may be way off base here, but here's my thinking. White people have a 200+ year history of institutionalized racism in this country, whether it was in the form of legalized slavery, legalized segregation, legalized poll taxes and tests designed to disenfranchise black people from voting, racial profiling by police groups, etc. It's a problem that continues to this day. And this all stemmed from the foolish belief hundreds of years ago that black people were inherently inferior to white people, especially when it came to mental acuity. Now, given that history, if I were a black person and a white person told me, "see, what you blacks need to do is...", I would see that as just one more example of white society treating me as though I am lower than them, as though I am less intelligent, as though I need them to save me from myself. That's the problem with institutionalized racism; you may not even realize how condescending you sound when you say a sentence like "Is it too presumptuous for a white person to tell black people that it might go a little way towards a better life if black people stopped using the N-word?"
I could be wrong; I'm white, I have no idea what it's like to be black in America. But seeing white people offer solutions to black America as if the past few hundred years of history never happened just strikes me as incredibly insulting.
I'm white, so I may be way off base here, but here's my thinking. White people have a 200+ year history of institutionalized racism in this country, whether it was in the form of legalized slavery, legalized segregation, legalized poll taxes and tests designed to disenfranchise black people from voting, racial profiling by police groups, etc. It's a problem that continues to this day. And this all stemmed from the foolish belief hundreds of years ago that black people were inherently inferior to white people, especially when it came to mental acuity. Now, given that history, if I were a black person and a white person told me, "see, what you blacks need to do is...", I would see that as just one more example of white society treating me as though I am lower than them, as though I am less intelligent, as though I need them to save me from myself. That's the problem with institutionalized racism; you may not even realize how condescending you sound when you say a sentence like "Is it too presumptuous for a white person to tell black people that it might go a little way towards a better life if black people stopped using the N-word?"
I could be wrong; I'm white, I have no idea what it's like to be black in America. But seeing white people offer solutions to black America as if the past few hundred years of history never happened just strikes me as incredibly insulting.
I don't even have a dislike for you. You are a fellow Niners fan. I really dislike poor logic, and you have displayed an enormous amount of it in this thread. My only intention in this thread was to explain to you how bad your logic is.
Motionman: proving you don't have to be smart to be a lawyer!
That's the problem with institutionalized racism; you may not even realize how condescending you sound when you say a sentence like "Is it too presumptuous for a white person to tell black people that it might go a little way towards a better life if black people stopped using the N-word?"
I could be wrong; I'm white, I have no idea what it's like to be black in America. But seeing white people offer solutions to black America as if the past few hundred years of history never happened just strikes me as incredibly insulting.
as a white man, if a black person told me "see, if you wanna learn how to dance better, what you need to do is this..." i would gladly take their advice.
Find me one person (white or black) that personally remembers what it was like 200 years ago.
The British tried to kill my hillbilly ancestors 200+ years ago. I've yet to be offended by the British for any other reasons than the obvious most recent ones.
Answer me this, when's the last time a Brit did something personally to you because of where you came from? I have black friends who since the beginning of this year have been racially profiled by police. 2 of them were arrested for doing nothing. I'm going to go out on a limb and say the Brits still don't have it out for you and your people. Many black people in American can't say the same about white people.
Which is a perfect justification for calling each other the N-word while insisting that others not use that word and, in fact, be punished for using the word.
Makes perfect sense.
MotionMan
Well my friends don't have problems with other black people, so when the word's used among them they don't feel any hatred or animosity. My friend had a white police officer make him put him hands on a burning hot car hood and keep them there. I could understand where might feel a bit of a threat if a white person calls him the N word.
I know you don't believe it, but you basically just answered your own question why some should be able to say it and others shouldn't.
So, basically, "Do as I say, not what I do"?
MotionMan
Should a 7 year old be able to cuss? My mom use to say fuck when I was in 3rd grade, by your logic I should have been able to say the word, amirite?
No. She should not have been swearing in front of you. Your mom was a terrible example for you, especially if she told you not to swear.
"Do as I say, not as I do" is a form of hypocrisy.
Anyone who uses the N-word should not be telling others not to use it.
MotionMan
Adults can cuss, it's part of being an adult, I never said she said it in front of me, that must be your lawyer side not being able to comprehend words. For all you know I heard her say fuck when she thought I was in my room asleep but I was really i the bathroom.
My GF can take money out of my bank account, I allow her too. You cannot, does that make me a hypocrite? Why does everything have to apply to everyone, your logic sucks balls.
I am not sure I am understanding your analogy. Because you allow your GF to take your money, but not others, it is not hypocritical for blacks to say the N-word?
MotionMan
What I said wasn't suppose to make sense, I said it because maybe it could click with you. Nobody in this thread is able to follow or understand you. If there are 10 people contributing to a conversation and the other 9 are scratching their head at the shit you say, there's probably a good reason for that. My statement was a jump at random WTF logic to maybe connect with you. I know my IQ's only a meagerly 135, so you'll have to excuse me if in fact I'm the one who's unable to keep up with you here.
Maybe they don't have a problem with the N-word. Maybe they think it is disrespectful when people who aren't black use it.I thought I made my position clear:
If black people have a problem with the N-word, then they should stop using it. Their continued use of the word is hypocritical.
Is that really so hard to understand?
MotionMan
Maybe they don't have a problem with the N-word. Maybe they think it is disrespectful when people who aren't black use it.
This brings me back to my original line of questioning, which you avoided. Is it equally hypocritical for gay people to have a problem when straight people use the word lovely human while still using the word themselves?
Did the black community insist that Riley Cooper should be punished?Which is a perfect justification for calling each other the N-word while insisting that others not use that word and, in fact, be punished for using the word.
Makes perfect sense.
MotionMan