Riots at Penn State

[bignateyk]

Football program should get the deathpenalty for at least 2-3 years a la SMU. Everyone involved should be fired immediately, Sandusky and others should be hung in town square.

Not going to happen for something completely unrelated to the athletes, football, or the NCAA, especially after all the coaches get axed.

 

[AMDZen]

I didn't say it was going to happen. I said it should.

Just like I know Sandusky and the like won't be hung in town square. But it more than should happen.

I hope one of the fathers of the sons molested and raped is dying from cancer or something, and takes the opportunity to go vigilante on these fucks. Messed up thought? Maybe, but I can't remember a time I have been more disgusted with the human race.

There is no way in hell there wasn't a huge coverup going on here, at some very high levels and this dude was left to coach kids for 9+ years after getting caught raping little boys. Thats 9+ years that I guarantee other boys were being raped by this dude and potentially even crazier shit. Everyone involved deserves a fate worse than death.

 

[FallenHero]

Not going to happen for something completely unrelated to the athletes, football, or the NCAA, especially after all the coaches get axed.

It would send a message to everyone that hiding anything like this will never, ever be tolerated. People within the university covered this up because the football program makes them millions...as much as I don't always agree with punishing entire institutions for the acts of a few people, in this case I think that doing it would send a giant message to everyone else. Come clean right away or else.

 

[SP33Demon]

There will be no new charges...The grand jury & AG cleared them of all legal wrongdoing, except for the two perjurers.

This will most likely cost Paterno his entire fortune once the civil lawsuits hit. Oh, and while you're defending Paterno please explain your thoughts on what happened before the 2002 Mcqueary incident in the shower:

(post from other thread):

First, when did someone on campus first suspect Jerry Sandusky of sexual assault?

According to the grand jury report, in 1998, Sandusky admitted that he showered with an 11-year-old boy. This was known by campus police, the State College Police Department, the Pennsylvania Department of Public Welfare and the Office of the Centre County District Attorney. Are we supposed to believe that this information never got back to head football coach Joe Paterno or anyone in authority on campus? How could that be? If an English teacher were being investigated, I'd guarantee that the head of the department would know about it.

Given the importance of Penn State football, are we really supposed to believe that no one from the campus police, the state public welfare department or the district attorney's office told any of the university coaches or officials?

So who knew? And how much did they know? And who did they tell? And who stopped the investigation?

Do the right thing.

In 1999 -- one year after the incident -- Sandusky retired at age 55, having served the football program under Paterno for 32 years. Was that timing a coincidence?

Are we really supposed to believe that neither Paterno nor anyone on his staff wondered why Sandusky suddenly retired? We await the honest answers here.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2011/11/09/bloomberg_articlesLUENG007SXL0.DTL

Good luck if you think Paterno will claim he didn't know about it in 1998/1999. He is just as guilty for the coverup regarding his good friend Sandusky. Paterno knows everything that happens in that football program, top to bottom, and especially involving his good friend of 30 years who was forced to retire by PSU.

Oh and btw, Sandusky was working out in the Penn State football gym last week. Please explain that to me as well. Only Paterno can approve of people in that gym. Like I said, Paterno will lose his entire fortune once civil lawsuits hit.

 

[DrunkenSano]

They definitely should rename Penn State University to Pedo State University. It's disgusting how the coaching administration would be willing to sweep it under the rug without doing a thing until it's out in the open now. This isn't just one young boy being raped, it's multiple boys. If it was one, then it's on the crazy pedophile. Now that it's multiple boys and they knew, it's completely on them. They should all be fired, and some should even be sent to jail for doing nothing.

 

[GrumpyMan]

I am willing to bet a million dollars that not a single one of those students that were rioting, have ever been raped in the ass by a 60 year old man when they were 10 years old, not a one.

 

[DrunkenSano]

Which is why they should convict and send students, who were identified destroying property, to bang-me-in-the-ass prison so they can get an educational experience.

 

[Red Storm]

What a pathetic group of kids.

 

[zinfamous]

Are you really dumb or really don't understand the difference between "people in power" and "people with job description to handle this kind of thing". Just because JoePa has the pull and the influence, it doesn't mean that he should or did influence the investigation by school/athletic administrators to deal with these type to things.

People in normal office go to HR for sexual harassment type of things, they don't deal with it themselves, especially when there maybe conflict of interest type of thing like JoePa and Sandusky having long term working relationship. You let the people with the job description and the mandate to deal with it. Things like child molestation, sexual harassment are serious charge with huge privacy implication. You without the professional experience and the mandate to deal with the situation can easily mess up the investigation, get counter sued.

Something people with basic job experience would understand, apparently that's too much to ask in a forum like here.

what sexual harassment?

We are talking about children being raped.

 

[DrunkenSano]

Someone doesn't know the difference of child molestation and sexual harassment in a work place. One you go to the damn cops once you hear about it, you don't sweep it under the rug for years. The other you go to HR.

 

[zinfamous]

Not going to happen for something completely unrelated to the athletes, football, or the NCAA, especially after all the coaches get axed.

Why not? I think the school needs to send a message. Depending on what kind of new culture they hire--and it could be an entirely new one designed to restructure this University away from the mindset, and their reputation of Football-only.

The culture at the top and in football at PSU will be completely overhauled after this. The University has an obligation to it's students, alumni, supporters, to the town of State College to do what is right by the victims, begin healing, and avoid the stigma now attached to the administration.

U of Chicago was a big time football school back in the 1950s--they had the first Heisman trophy winner and a handful of championships, until a new president showed up and instantly axed the entire sports department, for seemingly no reason. They have a semblance of a D3 (or maybe D2) football program and other athletics now--but they pull in tons of money without the NCAA bullshit, because they focus on what schools are supposed to focus on--education and research.

Don't get me wrong, I love college athletics, but this notion that the NCAA is somehow the biggest money boon for any individual University, and that any single University is so intertwined and indebted to an NCAA program is hilariously misguided.

 

[kstu]

what sexual harassment?

We are talking about children being raped.

still not important enough to follow up on according to him:

Why would he want to use his pull to see the Sandusky thing to the end?

 

[Rage187]

they are pro child rape

 

[SP33Demon]

still not important enough to follow up on according to him:

Yep, another mental midget who doesn't get it. I'm also amazed at the lack of logic too.

 

[AstroManLuca]

Oh well, at least not ALL the students at Penn State think child rape is okay:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXCZKUp45o0

Just most of them.

What a fucking disgusting, classless institution.

 

[DrunkenSano]

It seriously is Pedo State University, can't believe that the school isn't doing more to crack down on those dumbass kids. Also, how the kids are raised to not even care about child molestation is incredibly sad. The students of the school are fucked up when they put the importance of some old coach on top of child rape.

 

[Rage187]

Oh well, at least not ALL the students at Penn State think child rape is okay:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXCZKUp45o0

Just most of them.

What a fucking disgusting, classless institution.

do you expect anything more? Have you heard about their lovely sports fans that throw up on kids? I figured this was just a natural progression.

 

[thegimp03]

Source AP - Key dates in the Penn State sex abuse
....

Holy freaking cow. I got madder as I kept reading. Sickening.

 

[thegimp03]

Oh well, at least not ALL the students at Penn State think child rape is okay:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXCZKUp45o0

Just most of them.

What a fucking disgusting, classless institution.

That guy that they interviewed from like 1:30 on...wow.

The school should forfeit Saturday's game.

 

[7window]

Absolutely. McQuery was a former football player and a big guy. I can't picture him being afraid to take on a frail old man in defense of the poor child.

It is not about the size or how you can beat up the guy. Its about money and career. You don't want to lose a good thing. Money can do that to you.


I can't believe this. Only in america where some people support the pedo bear. How do we look to the outside?

 

[AstroManLuca]

That guy that they interviewed from like 1:30 on...wow.

The school should forfeit Saturday's game.

The players on that team should be glad that it's a home game. I'd fear for their safety if they were playing on the road.

I doubt they'll have much success for the rest of the year with such a huge scandal hanging over them.

 

[bignateyk]

The players on that team should be glad that it's a home game. I'd fear for their safety if they were playing on the road.

I doubt they'll have much success for the rest of the year with such a huge scandal hanging over them.

Which is sad because the athletes haven't done anything to deserve that.

 

[Phokus]

I want to punch all those Penn State students in the face. What a stupid thing to riot over. That being said, passionate sports fans are morons in general and you'd see this same stupid behavior if this happened elsewhere.

 

[bignateyk]

I want to punch all those Penn State students in the face. What a stupid thing to riot over. That being said, passionate sports fans are morons in general and you'd see this same stupid behavior if this happened elsewhere.

The sad thing is they are embarrasing themselves and the rest of the students in the process. Most of them aren't even there rioting though. 90% of them just show up to see what's going on. Of the remaining 10%, 9% are just drunk students looking for trouble, and 1% is actually there to defend JoePa.

 

[LTC8K6]

Coaches witnessing and covering up the rape of children reflects badly on the NCAA...

I wouldn't be surprised if they are investigating, or will investigate when they can do so without interfering with the criminal investigations.