They should riot if the Grand Jury acquits. It tells them what they have suspected all along, that their police are above the laws, and that protesting is not going to change that.
The Grand Jury is not a criminal trial, it is just a formal hearing to see if there is reason to bring charges against the accused. There are 6 eye witness accounts that claim he killed that kid in cold blood, even if a criminal trial finds that they are mistaken, or that their was unusual circumstances that lead to an acquittal, all a Grand Jury needs is probably cause, the same level of suspicion that the cop needed to stop Brown in the first place. There is undoubtedly enough for probably cause. The very fact that the Grand Jury has taken so long to see all the evidence tells us so.
This extended Grand Jury session has been a ploy to allow tensions to die down so they can sweep it under the rug, except tensions haven't died down and now they just going to sweep it under the rug anyway.
This is the problem with this country. You think justice is what biased and obviously lying "witnesses" and Al Sharpton tells you. Yet you ignore Tawanna Brawley and Duke Rape, and that punk-ass Trayvon.
From what we have heard, several witnesses WHO DID NOT IDENTIFY THEMSELVES. Have pretty much corroborated Wilson's story.
Snitches get stitches.
Once again, this is NOT the trial, the Grand Jury is not supposed to make that sort of decision. All they need is that there is probable cause for there to be a trial. The fact that there is this much evidence on both sides shows that a trial is needed.
This is being used as an end around a public trial. This is a case in which the defence and the prosecutors are literally working together to keep Wilson from being charged.
All they need is that there is probable cause for there to be a trial. The fact that there is this much evidence on both sides shows that a trial is needed.
honestly I dont know. But either way its a bad situation and ready to explode.
Canada only riots over hockey.
This extended Grand Jury session has been a ploy to allow tensions to die down so they can sweep it under the rug, except tensions haven't died down and now they just going to sweep it under the rug anyway.
Once again if it was that simple we would have had a 2 hour Grand Jury, not 3 months. That it took them this examine the case means they have a case to examine, and that means that a trial should take place to examine it, not giving a secret trial in which the prosecution, who is closely allied with the police force that is under scrutiny here, is the only one that gets to talk.
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable. - JFK
Incorrect. The grand jury must find that the preponderance of the evidence points to Wilson having committed a crime. That is a higher standard than probable cause.
A grand juror's responsibility is to determine "probable cause" based on the facts and accusations presented by the prosecutor. If a grand jury finds probable cause, an indictment will be handed down. An indictment is the most common way a criminal case starts.
Incorrect. The grand jury must find that the preponderance of the evidence points to Wilson having committed a crime. That is a higher standard than probable cause.
You're just as bad as the people DrPizza is talking about! Your story flip-flops in response to the specific comment being made!
The length of the Grand Jury session was carefully orchestrated to fool people into believing they took things seriously.
But but but, the length of the Grand Jury session was not orchestrated, there was a lot of evidence and a lot of super-serious stuff going on that proves that I am right!
I never said that last bit, I said that IF there is that much evidence then an indictment should be forthcoming. If they spend this much time reviewing evidence to only decide that there is no indictment then something is wrong.
Please try to remember that a grand jury is not trying to determine guilt or innocence, only if there is enough evidence for probable cause. The SCOTUS has done a really good job of whittling down the requirement of probable cause to the point where if there is ANY evidence at all you have probable cause.
And remember that this is a grand jury, that means that there is not a judge present, there are no evidentiary rules that must be followed, no sixth amendment protections, this is literally just the prosecutor and a group of people that can only hear what the prosecutor wants them to hear, and all done in secret.
I never said that last bit, I said that IF there is that much evidence then an indictment should be forthcoming. If they spend this much time reviewing evidence to only decide that there is no indictment then something is wrong.
Please try to remember that a grand jury is not trying to determine guilt or innocence, only if there is enough evidence for probable cause. The SCOTUS has done a really good job of whittling down the requirement of probable cause to the point where if there is ANY evidence at all you have probable cause.
And remember that this is a grand jury, that means that there is not a judge present, there are no evidentiary rules that must be followed, no sixth amendment protections, this is literally just the prosecutor and a group of people that can only hear what the prosecutor wants them to hear, and all done in secret.
My friends in St Louis LE have told me that they are bringing in extra police help as they expect the acquittal decision to be handed down very shortly.
QFTThis is the problem with this country. You think justice is what biased and obviously lying "witnesses" and Al Sharpton tells you. Yet you ignore Tawanna Brawley and Duke Rape, and that punk-ass Trayvon.
From what we have heard, several witnesses WHO DID NOT IDENTIFY THEMSELVES. Have pretty much corroborated Wilson's story.
Snitches get stitches.
I have one more session on my 2 year stint. They "schedule" 1.5 min per case. For the most part, the detective is sworn in, each indictment is read, the detective gives the facts of the cases in his jurisdiction (could be 1 or quite a lot). The total for the day, low end was 60 and the high was 260. Usually it's just a formality to true bill them. I've had 1 no bill during my time.That's a nice theory, but it doesn't come close to working that way in practice. A Grand Jury is a collection of people that don't give a damn and are simply trying to complete their service in the least difficult way possible.
This is how a Grand Jury usually works:
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2014/02/01/4656417/officer-kerricks-indictment-reveals.html
276 cases in 4 hours, that's a total of 52 seconds per case even without breaks for coffee. All 276 were indicted.
Black people knew OJ did it, yet they still rallied behind him and said he better not be convicted of murder or they would riot.
Do you guys think the same mentality is taking place here?
So, you're saying that if there were 6 people who claimed I burned a house down, but the grand jury was presented with pictures of the house in mint condition, that those 6 people aren't completely discredited and that there actually is evidence that I did it?
You're saying that a couple of people lying is sufficient evidence to charge a person with a crime and force them to spend 10's of thousands more dollars on their defense, when all the rest of the physical evidence tied to the case completely discredits those people who are lying?
Add on another half dozen people whose testimony matches the physical evidence fully, and whose testimony indicates that there was absolutely no crime committed?
Seriously?
(Note: the only evidence that Wilson committed a crime is the discredited stories by a half dozen people. You know, the people who originally said, "he shot him in the back!" Then changed their story, then changed their story again and again every time more physical evidence was released that completely refuted their original statements.
Yea, I have to LOL when his friend who was with him when the incident occurred described him has a "gentle giant" who would never hurt anyone, then the store video is released and the "gentle giant" brazenly takes $50 worth of cigars and shoves the 110lb store owner out of his way. IMO he's established himself as a thug right then and there, no respect for anyone and a lot of "F-you" attitude to go along with it.
And you know this how? Are you black? Or did you just make this up?
What does the science say?
As I said before in the MB/Ferguson thread, are we still a nation of law and order or riot and loot when we do not like something in life?
Oh, and locked and loaded FTW. This is why I have my buddies with me. Mr. Glock and Mr. Hornady Hollow Points.
Oh noooo, "character assassination", remember that? LOL. Oh, and how that gentle giant was about to start college. Five fingers discount and keep it real college I reckon.
While the store robbery does not mean he was guilty of trying to get the cop's gun it does show the type of person he REALLY is and if I had to guess I'd probably guess he went for the gun.