I think when cops start using hollow points, i expect a lot of debates and demonstrations to happen. And i really think police officers would not be happy with it as well if they were forced to use hollow points.
That together with their taser, mace and stick should help enough. And if it is not, then the pistol should be used.
Also, are hollow points for sale and other heavy weapons such as automatic weapons in the US ?
Police should use frangiles. Other than that, shoot away.
Allow me to remind the hoods of how not to get shot by the police, this is a piece by a very astute man on this complicated matter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igQDvYOt_iA
Automatic weapons are illegal in the US outside of military and government agency use. However, they are still readily available to anyone willing to break the law.
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong...
I believe there is a cutoff date, only automatic weapons in possession of civilians prior to that date are free to own, sell, or purchase. So, nobody is manufacturing new auto weapons for civilian purchase. Those that are legal to buy & sell are very few in numbers, they don't come up for sale often, and when they do, they command a very high price.
I just see Mr. Brown inside the police officers window. It appeared as [though] some sort of confrontation was taking place . [T]hat took place for seconds, Im not sure how long . And one shot, the first shot was let loose and after the first shot, Mike Brown came out of the window and took off running. So my initial thought was that wow, did I just witness this young guy kill a police officer (grand jury testimony, Vol. 6, page 165, line 23, hereafter cited by just page and line number).
He [Mike Brown] stopped. He did turn, he did some sort of body gesture, Im not sure what it was, but I know it was a body gesture. And I could say for sure he never put his hands up after he did his body gesture, he ran towards the officer full charge. The officer fired several shots at him and to give an estimate, I would say roughly around five to six shots was fired at Mike Brown. Mike Brown was still coming towards the office and at this point Im thinking, wow, is this officer missing Mike Brown at this close of a range. Mike Brown continuously came forward in the charging motion and at some point, at one point he started to slow down and he came to a stop. And when he stopped, thats when the officer ceased fire and when he ceased fired, Mike Brown started to charge once more at him. When he charged once more, the officer returned fire with, I would say, give an estimate of three to four shots. And thats when Mike Brown finally collapsed . (166:21-167:18).
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No, it is NOT ILLEGAL to have automatic weapons but you will pay a lot to own one plus permit, fees, etc. They are called Class III Full Auto Weapons.
Have money to burn? Here you go = http://www.collectorsfirearms.com/class-iii-full-auto/
I am not a high end baller as typical ATOTers so I will stay with my less than $1K USD rifles and hand guns (all semi).
You are correct. The National Firearms Act of 1968 is what did this.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Act
This is how it is legal to own fully automatic weapons, noise suppressors and other items using the "tax stamp" with the ATF. These objects are typically called "NFA" guns or weapons or firearms etc.
Having shot several fully automatic weapons, I would be the first to say they are fun but not accurate in full auto. I would prefer a burst fire or semi auto. Noise suppressors are nice on .22 cal to skip hearing protection, still loud on larger calibers so protection required.
Naw, it's better to spout off your bullshit and pretend you know what you're talking about. Reminds me politicians like Feinstein.William Gaatjes and Smackababy you two just need to stop posting about gun stuff.
That's it?CNN covering NYC right now, someone just dropped an F bomb while being dragged away by cops.
Uhhh...We've been using "hollow points" for years.
All police use hollow points and its the recommended load for self defense because it stays in the target without risk of secondary injury.
You mean the police uses hollow points ?
Yes. Hollow points are universally agreed to be superior as self-defense rounds than fully jacketed rounds. Many states in fact require the use of hollow point ammo for hunting for this reason - it is likelier to kill the prey more quickly and thus humanely (or, in the case of the police, to eliminate the threat more quickly). The US military, among several others, uses the inferior jacketed rounds only because it is a signatory to the Hague Convention, under which hollow point ammo is banned as causing "unnecessary suffering." I would be surprised if many, if any, American police departments issue their officers anything other that hollow point rounds.
I thought the military used jacketed rounds are better for penetrating body armor. I also think I read somewhere that the .223 rounds they use are enormously destructive to human tissue as they cartwheel once they're inside you.
It's been a while since I was really into this stuff, I could be wrong on both counts.
Yes. Hollow points are universally agreed to be superior as self-defense rounds than fully jacketed rounds. Many states in fact require the use of hollow point ammo for hunting for this reason - it is likelier to kill the prey more quickly and thus humanely (or, in the case of the police, to eliminate the threat more quickly). The US military, among several others, uses the inferior jacketed rounds only because it is a signatory to the Hague Convention, under which hollow point ammo is banned as causing "unnecessary suffering." I would be surprised if many, if any, American police departments issue their officers anything other that hollow point rounds.
I thought the military used jacketed rounds are better for penetrating body armor. I also think I read somewhere that the .223 rounds they use are enormously destructive to human tissue as they cartwheel once they're inside you.
It's been a while since I was really into this stuff, I could be wrong on both counts.
It's pretty ironic that certain ammunitions are deemed too inhumane to use on guys that you're at war with but are OK to use on your own civilians.Yes. Hollow points are universally agreed to be superior as self-defense rounds than fully jacketed rounds. Many states in fact require the use of hollow point ammo for hunting for this reason - it is likelier to kill the prey more quickly and thus humanely (or, in the case of the police, to eliminate the threat more quickly). The US military, among several others, uses the inferior jacketed rounds only because it is a signatory to the Hague Convention, under which hollow point ammo is banned as causing "unnecessary suffering." I would be surprised if many, if any, American police departments issue their officers anything other that hollow point rounds.
Yes. Hollow points are universally agreed to be superior as self-defense rounds than fully jacketed rounds. Many states in fact require the use of hollow point ammo for hunting for this reason - it is likelier to kill the prey more quickly and thus humanely (or, in the case of the police, to eliminate the threat more quickly). The US military, among several others, uses the inferior jacketed rounds only because it is a signatory to the Hague Convention, under which hollow point ammo is banned as causing "unnecessary suffering." I would be surprised if many, if any, American police departments issue their officers anything other that hollow point rounds.