RIP A true American patriot and statesman, Sen. John McCain

StinkyPinky

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Didn't agree with all his policies, but he was a man of integrity and honor and I can respect that. RIP.
 

DanTMWTMP

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Damn. I respected the hell out of that guy. May he RIP. He served our country all his life, and served it honorable and well.

Our nation will sorely miss him. A true American Hero in my opinion.
 
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MtnMan

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Now for Trump to show his ass with his tsunami of tweets about what a horrible person McCain was.
 
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Not trying to make a P&N about this, but I'm wondering how many left leaning people here would throw him under the bus if he wasn't the smoking gun that shot down that ACA gutting?
 

Andro Boy

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Not trying to make a P&N about this, but I'm wondering how many left leaning people here would throw him under the bus if he wasn't the smoking gun that shot down that ACA gutting?

Yeah, I do see too many people on the left worshiping McCain simply because of his vote on the ACA gutting as well as Trump's shitty comments about him not being a war hero, which gave people the kneejerk reaction to defend him.
 

madoka

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Helped kill 134 fellow sailors and then ran away:

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/investigating-john-mccains-tragedy-at-sea/

Gave the enemy military info and earned the nickname Songbird McCain while his fellow POWs were tortured to death:


Left his handicapped wife and mother to his kids so he could marry a woman 18 years younger. He even proposed to her while he was still married to his first wife.

https://people.com/politics/john-mccain-daughter-sidney-first-wife-discuss-divorce/

Maintained corrupt political career as a member of the Keating Five.

https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/mccain-the-most-reprehensible-of-the-keating-five-6431838

Yeah, I guess that makes him a true American hero.

Your ignorant and largely (and easily) debunked smears are not welcome in this condolence thread.

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Zanovar

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I watched a recent doumentary on his capture and incarceration,tough cookie,Liked the fella.RIP indeed
 

zinfamous

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Yeah, I do see too many people on the left worshiping McCain simply because of his vote on the ACA gutting as well as Trump's shitty comments about him not being a war hero, which gave people the kneejerk reaction to defend him.

The left mostly turned against him with the 2008 election and singly because of Palin. He gave Palin a national voice, which is an act worthy of universal condemnation. Prior to that, almost anyone saw him as a superior candidate and a superior human to George W Bush, very likely would have won against Gore, and would have likely been a superior president, and probably quite popular. It helps, of course, that Karl Rove and Dub trashed the man and his family in several completely unforgivable ways. The robocalls in South Carolina are a thing of shameful campaigning legend. He deserved much, much better, and of course he wins much sympathy for that.

I don't think anyone doubted his honest love for the country, but certainly many on the left disagreed with him politically and, it can fairly be said, how do you constantly defend the honorable things a guy says when he votes in the opposite direction?

Yes, voting down Trump was certainly a big deal. It was big for this country, and it was necessary. It's important to note that when the FBI brought the actionable intelligence regarding Trump as an agent and target of blackmail for Russia (during the general campaign), they went to McCain: the only person in the party that clearly hadn't lost his marbles over Trumptardia. ...telling, considering that he also had tumors ravaging his brain at the time.
 

zinfamous

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Helped kill 134 fellow sailors and then ran away:

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/investigating-john-mccains-tragedy-at-sea/

Gave the enemy military info and earned the nickname Songbird McCain while his fellow POWs were tortured to death:


Left his handicapped wife and mother to his kids so he could marry a woman 18 years younger. He even proposed to her while he was still married to his first wife.

https://people.com/politics/john-mccain-daughter-sidney-first-wife-discuss-divorce/

Maintained corrupt political career as a member of the Keating Five.

https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/mccain-the-most-reprehensible-of-the-keating-five-6431838

Yeah, I guess that makes him a true American hero.

And Trumptardia strikes!
 

IronWing

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The “left” was never with McCain so had no opportunity to turn against him. McCain was a hard right conservative throughout his political career, not some darling of the left. His saving grace was that he wasn’t a whack job fascist except for his Iran stance. McCain never moved left, his party slid out from underneath him.
 
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Geekbabe

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I cried a little last night over his passing. Didn’t agree with many of his politics but he was a decent man who served this country with honor, civility & distinction. He loved this nation dearly & was a true hero.

He died of a horrible cancer, his family is in my thoughts. Even with all the help money can buy this had to be rough on his family. From what they have stated, he died as he lived, on his own terms.

I must admire his cleverness, in asking both a past a Democrat & Republican President to deliver his eulogy, his final message to us all is clear, joining hands across the aisle,giving a little, taking a little is better than debasing & bashing the other side.

RIP good Sir your watch is over
 

MrSquished

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He was good for a Republican, but he was also a warmonger. And while he reflected in his book that the Iraq War was a mistake - well that's a lot of fucked up lives and trillions of dollard later brother. Oops.
 
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He was good for a Republican, but he was also a warmonger. And while he reflected in his book that the Iraq War was a mistake - well that's a lot of fucked up lives and trillions of dollard later brother. Oops.

I'm sure you would make all the correct decisions in life as a politician. You know whats best to put our foot and what not to with all your qualified knowledge.

Hell, knowing that none of us can make the best decisions in our own life let alone politically should tell us all something.
 

MrSquished

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I'm sure you would make all the correct decisions in life as a politician. You know whats best to put our foot and what not to with all your qualified knowledge.

Hell, knowing that none of us can make the best decisions in our own life let alone politically should tell us all something.

You are acting like he accidentally put too much oregano in that marinara sauce he was making.

We are talking about a war that lasted ages, with so many lives being affected, an entire country's future, and that arguably spawned ISIS and you want to act like awww shucks, he made a little mistake. The reason he was elected into one of the highest offices in the land, after SEEING the horrors of war, was to make those big large-scale decisions correctly. We aren't talking about a McDonald's cashier screwing up an order here or making stupid choices at 20 years old in life.

Maybe that should tell you something.
 

allisolm

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He's going to lie in state at the US Capitol, an honor bestowed on only 31 people in the last 166 years.
 
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