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rchunter

Senior member
Feb 26, 2015
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I've got 3 evga FTW 1080's. Glad I bought them when I did. Wouldn't want to have to be buying a video card right now...
I sure hope nvidia cranks out sufficient amount of cards for volta. They probably won't though and there will be shortages.
 

VirtualLarry

No Lifer
Aug 25, 2001
56,448
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I've got 3 evga FTW 1080's. Glad I bought them when I did. Wouldn't want to have to be buying a video card right now...
I sure hope nvidia cranks out sufficient amount of cards for volta. They probably won't though and there will be shortages.
Hope that you're mining on those. The money's (currently) pretty good. I'm making $16-18/day right now, with my GTX 1070 ti, GTX 1060 3GB, RX 470, RX 570, and asst. older cards. Even tried mining with some Zotac GT 730 1GB GDDR5 cards. Though, they seem to be unstable. I plugged in my mobo's extra PCI-E power connector onto the board, and loaded Zotac's OC/Fan software, and raised the fan speed to 95% on both cards, but they still, eventually, crashed the box. Sadly. Maybe they really are refurbished. (Were sold as refurb, but I thought that they might be New Old Stock, without warranty.)

When I can pick up some other new cards, will (probably) stop mining on the older ones, as they are less power-efficient.
 
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TeknoBug

Platinum Member
Oct 2, 2013
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My GTX1060 kinda died so I'm using an RX 370 in place of it, I want to get a new card (specifically the Vega 56) but that won't be happening for a long time. If my RX 580 ever goes then I'm sticking to console for the time being, I've been playing Gran Turismo Sport online a lot and recently picked up Call of Duty WW2 and The Division on PS4- it's been a while since I've played a game on my PC as a matter of fact.

PC gaming recently picked up in popularity back in 2016ish, now it'll just die because of this. On the other hand consoles are selling at an accelerated rate right now.
 

VirtualLarry

No Lifer
Aug 25, 2001
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No mining. I'm running 1080 sli in my 4k rig, and just a single 1080 in another. When volta comes out I hope to pull them all out and upgrade maybe.
Well, you're leaving money on the table, just saying. (Which you could then use the BTC, to buy the latest new coin, and make a bundle. See the thread in OT.)

My GTX 1070 ti is making me $6/day.
 
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rchunter

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Feb 26, 2015
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Well, you're leaving money on the table, just saying. (Which you could then use the BTC, to buy the latest new coin, and make a bundle. See the thread in OT.)

My GTX 1070 ti is making me $6/day.

Thanks, i'll have to look into it. I guess the price of coins have gone way up and mining is profitable again. For awhile there everyone was saying it wasn't worth it.
 

gsilver

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Jul 8, 2012
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Upside of the mining craze (from someone who entirely missed out on the bubble)
My old GTX 970 that I never got around to selling is suddenly worth way more than it otherwise would have been. I need to sell it right away.
 

zuz

Junior Member
Jan 7, 2013
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Every 18–24 months I purchase the 3rd-/2nd-best GPU available, play through the most-loved games 2–6 years old (downscaled from high-res as possible and still maintaining 60FPS mins; I don't "do" aliasing, not to mention all patches/mods are done), then sell the card 3–6 months later. The latest iteration of this cycle led me to sell my EVGA 1070 FTW for AUD 400 (USD ≈316) last Jan.

As a surprise from our parents last xmas, my brothers and I received our inheritance early. In ("it'll make us all rich, look at the chart!") Bitcoin. Purchased on Dec 17, 2017. Ya gotta laugh.
 

moonbogg

Lifer
Jan 8, 2011
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Dang I bet I could get a lot for my 1080ti + EK block installed. Crazy second hand prices.
 

24601

Golden Member
Jun 10, 2007
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980 Ti up to 550 USD on ebay now.
980 up to 400 USD on ebay now.
970 at ~280 USD on ebay now.

Amazed that the Titan Xp isn't out of stock yet, currently the best performance per dollar part that is actually available.
 

nitromullet

Diamond Member
Jan 7, 2004
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Most of the 2017 was like this.2018 will be same or worse.Pc gaming is pretty much dead sice 2017.I think 95% of cards sells in 2017 was to miners anyway.Sooner or later even pc enthusiast will quit and then AMd/nv will have huge problem if mining crash in future.Because nobody will care about their cards by then.Everyone will be on console by then.

They need ramp up productions or bye bye pc gaming.

I know this a quote from quite a bit earlier in the thread, but this been my thinking on this lately as well.

We'll have to wait and see what happens when Volta launches, but $600-700 is generally my upper limit for any video card, and I am certainly not willing to pay that much for a mid-range GTX xx70 level card for any reason.

In the meantime, I think I might list my PS4 Slim on Craigslist and put whatever I get out of it into an Xbox One X. If when Volta launches the prices are still sky high due to mining I'll probably sell my g-sync ultra-wide monitor, replace it with a 32" 4K Freesync screen, and play games on the Xbox instead of bothering to upgrade to Volta. I think the Xbox One X is starting to close the gap between consoles and PC, but of course, I'd have to own one for a while before I can really make the judgement call on the overall experience vs. my current gaming PC.
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
Sep 5, 2000
27,399
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Hope that you're mining on those. The money's (currently) pretty good. I'm making $16-18/day right now, with my GTX 1070 ti, GTX 1060 3GB, RX 470, RX 570, and asst. older cards. Even tried mining with some Zotac GT 730 1GB GDDR5 cards. Though, they seem to be unstable. I plugged in my mobo's extra PCI-E power connector onto the board, and loaded Zotac's OC/Fan software, and raised the fan speed to 95% on both cards, but they still, eventually, crashed the box. Sadly. Maybe they really are refurbished. (Were sold as refurb, but I thought that they might be New Old Stock, without warranty.)

When I can pick up some other new cards, will (probably) stop mining on the older ones, as they are less power-efficient.

how much energy is the world using to mine this tulip bulb?
 

AdamK47

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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I can't believe people are buying used 1080 Ti cards for over $1200 when they could just buy a new Titan Xp for the same price. What's going on?
 

Paratus

Lifer
Jun 4, 2004
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The Asus Strix RX Vega 56 was in stock at Newegg for $699 for a little while today.

$699 seems to be the price floor for after market 56’s.
 

jpiniero

Lifer
Oct 1, 2010
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I can't believe people are buying used 1080 Ti cards for over $1200 when they could just buy a new Titan Xp for the same price. What's going on?

People hear about mining and go out and buy what's available. They probably don't even know nVidia sells GPUs directly.
 

SteveGrabowski

Diamond Member
Oct 20, 2014
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970 at ~280 USD on ebay now.

When did you see that? I was watching ebay auction prices Wednesday through Friday and it seemed like the winning bids were all around $215. I'd be tempted to sell my 970 if it ever gets to $300.
 

24601

Golden Member
Jun 10, 2007
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When did you see that? I was watching ebay auction prices Wednesday through Friday and it seemed like the winning bids were all around $215. I'd be tempted to sell my 970 if it ever gets to $300.

Auction prices are meaningless.

The market is determined by "buy it now" prices.
 

Pneumothorax

Golden Member
Nov 4, 2002
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The only consolation for a gamer trying to score a GPU at these crazy price... If/when the next mining crash occurs, you're going to be able to buy 1070's for $200 and 1080Ti's for $300 as the market will be flooded with them.
 

SteveGrabowski

Diamond Member
Oct 20, 2014
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Auction prices are meaningless.

The market is determined by "buy it now" prices.

Are people actually buying at "Buy It Now" prices that much higher than the auction prices though? I know the auction prices are what people are actually paying and not what sellers are asking.
 

24601

Golden Member
Jun 10, 2007
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Are people actually buying at "Buy It Now" prices that much higher than the auction prices though? I know the auction prices are what people are actually paying and not what sellers are asking.
If people are willing to wait and gamble on auctions they would be better served simply pre-ordering at retail-ish prices.

By definition, if you cannot guarantee delivery and cannot guarantee pricing, then it's not a market price.
 

Snarf Snarf

Senior member
Feb 19, 2015
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This market is absolutely insane. I'm down to my last 3 1080's in stock and 2 1050 ti's otherwise my store has been completely wiped out and our vendors have absolutely no idea when they're getting more. I sold my last 1060 this morning, I didn't want to sell to a miner because I can't sell gaming systems with out card stock to put in them, but the guy said name my price and he'd pay anything for one. Sold it to him for $499 as that's the selling average on EBay and now I have a huge hole between 1050 ti and 1080's. Combined with RAM pricing the GPU market is really messing with my sales and it hurts small businesses.
 
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