rising cost of smartphones?

AMD64Blondie

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What's with the crazy prices on higher-end smartphones?
($500 and up)..

My Samsung Galaxy J2 does most everything I need(I use it more as a normal phone to make phone calls..)
I don't browse the web that much on my phone,except when I'm at work.

It only cost me (back in Oct.2018) $115 for the phone itself.(no contract.)
I'm using Consumer Cellular for my phone provider.

I know the more expensive phones might have better battery life or a better screen,but for me this works just fine.

One of the advantages of the smaller formfactor for me:the phone fits better in my jeans pocket.
 
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dingster1

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Folks are increasingly using phones as more than phones. Documents, business apps, and the WFH/on the go lifestyle means folks want/need more from their phones than just calling features.
 

UsandThem

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Smartphones are practically just like every piece of technology out there. You have budget models all the way to premium models. TVs, computers, speakers, routers, etc.

New/cutting edge of tech (like $1000+ phones, and plasma TVs when first launched) has always been pricey. If the budget offerings fulfill all your needs, you have the option of not being forced to buy a premium product.
 

balloonshark

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You're paying extra to impress others with the latest and greatest tech. The sad thing is most only use their phones for social networking and texting. I'll stick with my motorola z2 that only cost me $99.
 

mnewsham

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Some of these high-end phones can double as a GOOD (or at least decent) digital camera.

Not saying it's worth it for everyone, but I can see why some people aren't bothered by $700-1000+ for a device they'll be carrying near 24/7 for 2-3 years or longer.
 
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ElFenix

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Some of these high-end phones can double as a GOOD (or at least decent) digital camera.

Not saying it's worth it for everyone, but I can see why some people aren't bothered by $700-1000+ for a device they'll be carrying near 24/7 for 2-3 years or longer.

 

mnewsham

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Well duh, no one should expect a phone sensor to rival a sensor multiple times larger. The point is a modern high-end smartphone can take more than good enough pictures to satisfy pretty much anyone for casual photography. (instragram/snapchat/facebook/family photos)

Obviously if you're a professional, you'll be using professional camera equipment.

Also while the iPhone might be one of the best general shooters, the New xiaomi Mi 10 Ultra and the Galaxy Note20 Ultra both have some pretty impressive camera setups that can do pretty impressive zoom pictures, and telephoto etc.

The Note20 Ultra being capable of 120fpsFHD video capture is also pretty cool and something you probably wont see on any "normal" digital camera. By the way, that's 120fps realtime capture and playback, not 120fps "slow-mo".
 

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OP, your observation is essentially correct and more buyers are like you. Market saturation and technological advancement has undermined the willingness to pay the premium for flagships. Sellers are reacting by splitting the market, going all-out on flagships to get those willing to pay that premium but these days more so including models in the growing mid-price segment that is more than powerful enough for the mass market, and easier to sell globally.
 
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killster1

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one thing we miss in this comparison is the video quality. Did they purposely leave out a video comparison? the photos looks great and at times better then the gf1 imo. just watched a video test for the gf1. WOW shaky out of focus not to mention 720p? 720p!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????? how is this even a contest the iphone wins with both hands behind its back.

as far as phone prices, look how much the cpu of the phone costs by it self then you can figure out why the price is so much, the screen price, the lens / camera price. its not budget items slapped together and overcharged, you get better signal better screen better camera, more ram more storage.. (im sure your phone doesnt even offer a 512gb version pair that witha 512gb sd card and you have 1tb in your hands)
 

Rocketman122

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Crazy prices. No need to pay crazy prices

In fact just posting regarding buying a 2 year note 9.new note released note 9 still has high end spec anf price drop. Looking for used. Screw those high prices. Dont be a sucker. Dont get midrange they are also lacking and high priced
 

pete6032

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Crazy prices. No need to pay crazy prices

In fact just posting regarding buying a 2 year note 9.new note released note 9 still has high end spec anf price drop. Looking for used. Screw those high prices. Dont be a sucker. Dont get midrange they are also lacking and high priced
I got my Moto x4 new for about $250 a year ago and it is great. Screen colors are not the best but it runs great and the screen gets extremely bright, allowing for use in strong daylight.
 

piokos

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What's with the crazy prices on higher-end smartphones?
($500 and up)..

My Samsung Galaxy J2 does most everything I need(I use it more as a normal phone to make phone calls..)
Very simple question. How much did you spend on your most expensive PC?
 

mnewsham

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Very simple question. How much did you spend on your most expensive PC?
This is also how I see it.

A $200-300 chromebook will browse the internet and do basic word processing and email type activities.

Even if I use a chromebook, I still understand that not everyone wants a device with low end hardware, even if technically yea, they're doing the same functions.
 
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PlanetJosh

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I can pay the high prices but the phones are too big for me. I still have my Galaxy S4 at around 5 and 1/4 inches including case and it fits fine in my pants pockets. Maybe I'll just buy pants with bigger pockets for a new S9 or S10. The new flip phones are an option for even smaller size when folded. But I have to have a 5 inch screen or bigger for movies and browsing.
 

rh71

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A used S9 in great condition for ~$225 is a good buy right now isn't it? My wife needs an upgrade from the aging S7.

Ever since I bought used S9s for my kids and they are perfectly fine compared to when I bought my S8+ brand new, I don't think I'll ever buy new again. Paying for the latest in this realm doesn't seem all that worthwhile since they're mostly similar year to year.
 

piokos

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Ever since I bought used S9s for my kids and they are perfectly fine compared to when I bought my S8+ brand new, I don't think I'll ever buy new again. Paying for the latest in this realm doesn't seem all that worthwhile since they're mostly similar year to year.
Which can be said about most durable goods: cars, furniture, cloths etc. Even PCs for most human beings. And yet, there are people who just don't like to use pre-owned products. And you should be thankful, because they make the second-hand market possible.
I can pay the high prices but the phones are too big for me.
Well, so you're not in a bad position, because smaller phones tend to be more expensive (assuming similar performance/features).

But I absolutely agree. And I miss the size that was normal just few years back. I have an LG G6 right now - it's roughly the size of current Apple/Samsung flagships in the smallest variant.
That's as large as I can tolerate.
Previously I had the iPhone 5s and the form factor was just spot on. Easy to use in one hand, absolutely perfect for pockets, great for mounting on bicycle handlebar or to carry during running.
Most of the screen space was wasted, but if they made it like they do phones today (with 90% screen-to-body ratio), it would be perfect for me.

Who knows... maybe this trend will change one day. But I wouldn't hold my breath...
 

rh71

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^ I don't think I'd ever wear used clothes - they're cheap enough when new.

Spending $30k+ for a used car is insane to me... if I want to spend that much, it better not be used with a further-limited shelf life and questionable treatment history... I'd rather finance the rest as new and take my time paying it. Something used in the $5k range as a beater/daily though, sure. My kids will be getting that because it makes sense.

Furniture I don't always agree with either... bed bugs, etc.

PC's, only if it's a backup not used daily will I go for something dated. Need the power if it's a PC as opposed to throw-around tablets and smartphones.
 
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piokos

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^ I don't think I'd ever wear used clothes - they're cheap enough when new.
That really depends where you live and what kind of cloths we're talking about.
Being raised in ex Eastern Bloc, almost all of my cloths until I was 10 or so were used. It was pretty normal to buy used - especially for growing children.
I would be surprised if this wasn't still the case in less wealthy countries - even with endless supply of awful but cheap cloths from China.

But moving to wealthy countries, this is actually coming back as part of a "zero waste" idea, which I'm actually quite fond of.
If a piece of clothing can survive long 60*C washing cycle, it's probably cleaner than when it left the store.
Spending $30k+ for a used car is insane to me... if I want to spend that much, it better not be used with a further-limited shelf life and questionable treatment history... I'd rather finance the rest as new and take my time paying it. Something used in the $5k range as a beater/daily though, sure. My kids will be getting that because it makes sense.
Well again, it's a matter of wealth. In many countries just a tiny fraction of people can afford something new.
Cars - being expensive - are designed to last and to change hands once in a while. That's why their history is being tracked, usually by the gov.

I've only bought a single car in my life and it was a new Toyota Aygo, just a few years back.
My girlfriend really wanted a car and we went for a new one for a single, very simple reason: I really have no interest in cars, I didn't want to waste money and time on checking and fixing. I wanted something robust with warranty.

But for people who like cars OR can afford taking care of one OR have higher expectations than I do (about speed, features or interior quality), buying a 3-4 year old car - ideally one that was leased - is by far the best option.
Furniture I don't always agree with either... bed bugs, etc.
Bed bugs live in mattresses. You should replace them every few years anyway.
I was thinking more about tables and wardrobes.
PC's, only if it's a backup not used daily will I go for something dated. Need the power if it's a PC as opposed to throw-around tablets and smartphones.
I find this fairly hard to agree with. The PC you owned 5 years ago would be unusable today? I mean: for daily casual use, not for gaming or comparing benchmark results.

People tend to overestimate the importance of PC performance.
I'm currently looking at 2 PCs: my personal desktop and a work laptop.
I played Forza 4 for 2h last week, I edited some small 4K video yesterday.
Apart from that, everything I've done on either of them, both personally and for work, could have been done on ANY of the PCs I've owned since 2010 - running the same software (including W10). And I buy pretty basic stuff normally, you'd call it "office grade".
 

jdkick

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Yeah I'm not enjoying the rising prices either, at least speaking from the Canadian market. My current 2-year contract closes in the spring and unless there are reasonable promos I will ride out my current device for the foreseeable future. I'm not paying $50/month for a device on top of plan/data charges...
 

thetechfreak

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Upcoming iPhone that is rumored to ship without a charger and even headphones truly will turn the tides. Apparently the starting price is also expected to be higher than last year, so yeah

Sent from my vivo 1807 using Tapatalk
 

Commodus

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Upcoming iPhone that is rumored to ship without a charger and even headphones truly will turn the tides. Apparently the starting price is also expected to be higher than last year, so yeah

Sent from my vivo 1807 using Tapatalk

Apparently the lack of a charger and headphones is there partly to offset the cost of 5G. Prices won't necessarily go up, though.
 

piokos

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Apparently the lack of a charger and headphones is there partly to offset the cost of 5G. Prices won't necessarily go up, though.
To be honest, in a world where we try to lower waste in so many ways, adding chargers to every single phone is kind of weird. Especially now when most phones use the same port (1 of 3 anyway) and people slowly move to inductive charging.

Bundled headphones will slowly go away because people don't want to use wired ones anymore and acceptable BT ones would be too expensive.
But they made a lot of sense even after we moved from custom connectors to 3.5mm jack.
For most people bundled headphones are the only small or microphone-equipped ones they have. And they use it with other devices as well. I use mine with Xbox and for PC calls.
 
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