Rittenhouse trial to start soon, Judge is laying out rules.

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Vic

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Rights are not unlimited. Conservatives love to forget this at the most convenient of times.
Conservatives certainly don't believe that rights are unlimited. FFS these are the people who still want prison sentences over a dimebag of weed. And who claim police should be able to kill any citizen because they saw a gun (so much for the right to bear).
 
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Have you met my challenge yet of providing a single example of when you supported the rights and freedoms of someone you don't identify with?

A lot of people, I have found, are convinced that they are somehow champions of freedom because they believe in their own freedoms. But that's actually nothing special. Everyone believes in their own freedoms. Especially dictators. In fact, I would argue that's why they become dictators.
True belief in freedom requires believing in the freedoms of those other than yourself, and especially of those you disagree with or are politically opposed to. Such as, for example, supporting the rights of those you disagree with to speak freely without labeling as traitors (or similar). Or, for example, allowing a group you disagree with, such as BLM in your case, to assemble and protest freely with falsely labeling them as rioters and looters, and sending in armed young idealists to kill them.
When you can do that, then I might believe that you believe in freedom. Until then, you're just another authoritarian who, like all authoritarians, believes the only freedoms that matter are their own.
Did you watch any of the thousands of hours of BLM protests turning into riots, arson and looting episodes?

In response to your "challenge" yes, you have the right to be a douchebag in this forum any time you choose.
 

HomerJS

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Did you watch any of the thousands of hours of BLM protests turning into riots, arson and looting episodes?

In response to your "challenge" yes, you have the right to be a douchebag in this forum any time you choose.
When did the organization BLM EVER call for riots, killings and kidnapping of government officials?

Recent news events show you bad shit can happen when thousands of people amass like the Travis Scott convert. Did Travis call for people to be trampled? Hell, a bunch of white boys once tried to burn up part of Huntington Beach because of a fucking surfing tournament.

Those people on Jan 6 plotted, planned and communicated their violence along with trying to overthrow the government.
 
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Regardless of what anyone else did that day or night, is there any evidence that any of the three victims of the Punk From Illinois were involved in looting or burning?
 

Amol S.

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I watched about 30 minutes of CNN live stream of the trial, and I would say the following, Rittenhouse is going to get charged with something, but not sure about murder. The prosecutor right now is trying to use a tactic that I like to call add-on affect. Basically at multiple points the prosecutor is trying to kake Rittenhouse agree to whether he lied to police at any point in time, knowingly carried a gun that didn't belong to him, or just points at which his statement sounds dumb. Already Rittenhouse clearly confessed that he lied to the police that he is an EMT specialist, just to get access into the area. This within it self is a violation of the law.

As for the murder part, nothing had come up about it in regards to the time I stopped watching the live stream of the court case. Ironically enough however, Rittenhouse did admit he sarcastically lied to someone in a car driving, "Yes I pointed a gun at you." The defndent's lawyer tried to object saying that it is getting the case no where, the judge said that this sarcasm statement is something big, and asked the plaintiff to continue his questioning. When the plaintiff asked why did Rittenhouse respond sarcastically, Rittenhouse claimed he did it to prevent an escalation to an argument, and felt the best way to do so was to say yes to the driver.

Lastly but not the least, when Rittenhouse was trying to run back and find the leader of his group that night, while doing so, he was recorded on camera being seen that for 20 seconds the leader of his group was just there right in center in front, but just passed him. Rittenhouse said he didn't see him and continued on his efforts to find him.
 

sportage

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Looks to me that we have the prosecutor playing the role of mad next door neighbor who witnessed the neighbor kid committing something bad, and the judge playing the role of the Rittenhouse loving grandpa believing the kid can do no wrong and you can see this when every time Rittenhouse appears lost Rittenhouse looks to the judge, and Rittenhouse himself believing he is getting away with murder.... twice!

Now I'm questioning the reason for the photo showing Rittenhouse cleaning graffiti off a building, giving the impression of innocences and Rittenhouse knowing well that later he would be caring a gun on the streets looking for trouble. And, I don't believe the crying performance for a second. One does not cry without tears. I don't buy it....

I am absolutely convinced that this judge would simply LOVE to rule a mistrial.... and WITH PREJUDICE !!!
Setting Rittenhouse FREE.

Watching the actual videos and watching this little self rigorous cocky SOB walking the streets caring his assault weapon pretending to be Clint Eastwood should tell everyone in the room all they need to know. This was a kid who had access to a gun and... had a chip on his shoulders and... was pumped up watching black people rioting and... took off into the thick of the mess to per chance shoot someone. To put his gun to use, otherwise why even have the gun in the first place if you can not shoot people once in a while?

But this judge..... Oy Vey!
 
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Commodus

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"... and let's be honest, he was likely itching to kill some liberals. "

Let's be honest here a stupid statement deserves to be called a stupid statement.

Still no evidence, I see.

The kid showed up to a car dealership with a rifle in hopes of protecting it, and crossed state lines with a gun he was too young to own in the first place. He was looking for a fight.
 

soundforbjt

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Still no evidence, I see.

The kid showed up to a car dealership with a rifle in hopes of protecting it, and crossed state lines with a gun he was too young to own in the first place. He was looking for a fight.
He didn’t cross state lines with the gun. He drove illegally without a license across state lines to get to Kenosha where the gun was kept by his friend.
 

MrSquished

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The shit the judge banned the prosecution from using is ridiculous. Of course he is a Trumpie.
 

Vic

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Did you watch any of the thousands of hours of BLM protests turning into riots, arson and looting episodes?

In response to your "challenge" yes, you have the right to be a douchebag in this forum any time you choose.
As I've mentioned before, I live in Portland. And I did go out and witness protests firstgand (from a distance). Most that I saw were more or less peaceful, or at least the organizers appeared to have wanted them to be and they started that way. But in those that weren't (or fell to shit), it wasn't BLM or antifa rioting and looting. It was left-wing groups and right-wing groups (Patriot Prayer, Proud Boys, etc) squaring off against each other, yelling, pepper-spraying, brawling, and vandalizing. Both sides. Of which I strongly disagreed and said so. Here and IRL.
That's why I think you need to understand that your Fox news-driven narrative of the summer of 2020 is completely false. Rittenhouse was not there to stop rioters or anything like that. He was one of them. He was just on your 'side,' so you're okay with that.
 
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rommelrommel

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It’s sad. Here we have again a poor kid consumed and obsessed with guns and thus obsessed with the biggest nastiest guns made. Guns that at one time were only allowed in the armed forces I.e. the military.

What time was that?
 

Fenixgoon

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It creates the perception that the judge is not impartial.

Ironically, we (as in society, but especially in the conservative sphere) take the appearance of bias, impropriety, or conflict of interest much more seriously than actual bias, impropriety, or conflict of interest
 
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