Rittenhouse trial to start soon, Judge is laying out rules.

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soundforbjt

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First of all, there has been no ruling of a mistrial, and likely won’t be unless the prosecution or defense yet again bring up excluded or blatantly unconstitutional allegations in front of the jury.

But any such ruling would still be subject to appeal I believe.
The defense has asked for a mistrial with prejudice. The judge can grant that at any time now that the defense has made the motion. It’s well known that the defense is always happy with this judge. I’m surprised he hasn’t granted it yet.
 

sportage

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We know how this will turn out. The kid will get off free as a bird, then become a hero to the ALT-Right anti-BLM groups, and a hero for other racist groups, and appear on several racist podcast shows, and eventually take his gun and do this all over again. If this kid gets off you can bet we will hear about him again in the future. Most likely after being arrested again for killing yet someone else at another BLM protest.

This judge, this entire trial reminds me of the legal system during the 50's and 60's down in the south. In every case the white guy always got off. Things have not changed much, a little maybe but not really that much.
 

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The defense has asked for a mistrial with prejudice. The judge can grant that at any time now that the defense has made the motion. It’s well known that the defense is always happy with this judge. I’m surprised he hasn’t granted it yet.
A mistrial that dismisses case with prejudice is almost never granted, and if I were a gambler I’d wager good money that it won’t occur in this case. Near zero probability - barring the prosecution throwing the case, by repeating the same point in front of the jury again that caused the judge to blow up initially. (prosecutor questioning defendants pretrial silence on events, as if that implied guilt).
 
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There’s no doubt in my mind that Rittenhouse is a dumbfuck, and that he shot 3 people who didn’t deserve to be shot. I’d go as far to say he’s guilty of manslaughter in my mind.

But, being a dumbfuck isn’t a crime, especially more so when you’re 17. I think the defense is doing a better job of making their case than the prosecution, judge’s rules notwithstanding. There’s a good chance the only thing that sticks is the underage possession charge. If that’s the case, I wouldn’t say it’s a grave miscarriage of Justice. The victims will have their day with civil cases as well.
So the convicted child rapist who grabbed his gun and had previously threatened his life didn't deserve to be shot, the guy that hit him twice with intent to injure didn't deserve to be shot and the guy that pointed an illegal gun at his head didn't deserve to be shot? You're an idiot.
 
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I don't have any opinion on that because I haven't followed the story beyond news blurbs. My only comment is on the bits of video about the prosecution. I won't be at all surprised if KR walks.
Did you see the prosecutor trying to explain hollow point bullets? Priceless!
 
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Question, if you break into a house and the owner greets you with a gun threatening to shoot but they are too close. The robber grabs the gun and a struggle ensues. The gun goes off and the homeowner is killed.

Can the robber claim self defense? If not why not? I'm leading to something.
Not after the commission of a crime.
 
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This is what I was getting at. KR was committing crime all the while he was in possession of that rifle. He killed Rosenbaum and nothing in the drone video KR was in imminent danger of death from Rosenbaum.
No he wasn't, there are hunting laws in Wisconsin that allow minors to possess and carry firearms. While it's arguable that Rittenhouse may have been breaking the law, it's not a slam dunk.
ohh and
 
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Imagine if the circumstances were exactly reversed, do you think the same people defending Rittenhouse would be defending Rosenbaum and calling it self-defense?
I am certain they would not.
Of course you like and support Rosenbaum.


Newly released documents obtained by Wisconsin Right Now from the Pima County (Arizona) Clerk of Courts confirm Rosenbaum was charged by a grand jury with 11 counts of child molestation and inappropriate sexual activity with children, including anal rape. The victims were five boys ranging in age from nine to 11 years old. He was convicted of two amended counts as part of a plea deal. See those documents here.

https://www.wisconsinrightnow.com/2021/03/12/kenosha-shooting/
 

soundforbjt

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Fenixgoon

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Of course you like and support Rosenbaum.


Newly released documents obtained by Wisconsin Right Now from the Pima County (Arizona) Clerk of Courts confirm Rosenbaum was charged by a grand jury with 11 counts of child molestation and inappropriate sexual activity with children, including anal rape. The victims were five boys ranging in age from nine to 11 years old. He was convicted of two amended counts as part of a plea deal. See those documents here.

https://www.wisconsinrightnow.com/2021/03/12/kenosha-shooting/
And that has exactly what to do with the current court case? Or are you advocating the position that citizens can unilaterally enact justice, up to and including killing, of others without due process?
 

Vic

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Of course you like and support Rosenbaum.


Newly released documents obtained by Wisconsin Right Now from the Pima County (Arizona) Clerk of Courts confirm Rosenbaum was charged by a grand jury with 11 counts of child molestation and inappropriate sexual activity with children, including anal rape. The victims were five boys ranging in age from nine to 11 years old. He was convicted of two amended counts as part of a plea deal. See those documents here.

https://www.wisconsinrightnow.com/2021/03/12/kenosha-shooting/

I can't see how you could have possibly gotten the idea that I liked or supported anyone involved in this incident. You're just not capable of understanding anything outside of polarization, are you? I guess that helps you miss the point every time, eh?
 
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Vic

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And that has exactly what to do with the current court case? Or are you advocating the position that citizens can unilaterally enact justice, up to and including killing, of others without due process?
He believes exactly that, but only if the extrajudicially executed are minorities or liberals.

But it was funny how I said that he wouldn't support Rosenbaum's right to act in self-defense, if the circumstances were reversed with all else being equal, and he jumped in and proved me right without even realizing it.
 
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outriding

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No he wasn't, there are hunting laws in Wisconsin that allow minors to possess and carry firearms. While it's arguable that Rittenhouse may have been breaking the law, it's not a slam dunk.
ohh and

Why would you even mention hunting laws when there was nothing in season and let me guess he had a hunting permit just like he had a job at the car lot.
 

kage69

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You mean Biden farting in front of the Duchess or when he shit his pants in front of the Pope?

I think it's just adorable how you traitors are trying to BothSides Trump wearing Depends, loading them for others to change, often. Not particularly original, but adorable nonetheless. I'm sure Keith Schiller appreciates your efforts, however limp and anemic they are. Talk about a crappy job!

Biden doesn't wear a hard plastic girdle either, I bet it just kills you to watch him strike a pose that doesn't look like he's going to shit himself. Fucker even has the temerity to speak in complete sentences. Must really be uncomfortable to you, I mean just look what it makes you post.
 

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Lotta ignorant fucks in here. When my kids got around 12 I made them watch ACLU videos about talking to the police.
 

Lanyap

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Why would you even mention hunting laws when there was nothing in season and let me guess he had a hunting permit just like he had a job at the car lot.



KR: It's all good your honor, I was hunting Antifa and we all know that they are always in season and no hunting permit is necessary.
Judge: Well then, case closed. Not guilty.
 
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Vic

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KR: It's all good your honor, I was hunting Antifa and we all know that they are always in season and no hunting permit is necessary.
Judge: Well then, case closed. Not guilty.
Only took 4 short years for Republicans to go from free speech warriors to open season on anyone whose speech they disagree with.

This is the kind of 'law and order' they hoped Trump would bring to America: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/20/world/americas/brazil-police-shootings-murder.html
 
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