Rittenhouse trial to start soon, Judge is laying out rules.

[soundforbjt]

not all blacks are inferior, but at the same time



have you looked in the mirror?



you just can't help yourself can you?

conservatives are evil, conservatives must be stopped. anything done against conservatives is justified

for the greater good

Conservatives aren’t evil, just the ones who support trump or politicians who support trump and his ideals. If you’re not in that group, then you’ve no reason to complain.

 

[Commodus]

not all blacks are inferior, but at the same time

Can you please stop being childish and playing the "anyone who disagrees with me is racist" card? This is not some feverish extrapolation based on myths or stereotypes. This is based on who conservatives have elected and continue to support; on sustained polling data; on real, enacted legislation and policies.

you just can't help yourself can you?

conservatives are evil, conservatives must be stopped. anything done against conservatives is justified

for the greater good

I never made blanket statements; I certainly didn't say "anything done against conservatives is justified."

What I'm saying is that we have to acknowledge modern American conservatism has some major problems that undermine democracy and civil rights. I don't want to eradicate conservatism; I want it to return to a point where it strives for fair elections, supports science and rejects bigotry. Where it's focused on economics and foreign relations rather than holding power at all costs or suppressing minorities. Some conservatives are like that already; but a disconcertingly large portion of them are not, and we need to address that.

 

[tynopik]

I certainly didn't say "anything done against conservatives is justified."

you didn't have to, it's the logical implication of MrSquished's statement that conservatives 'are fucking literal evil'

of course you didn't say it, but didn't disown or denounce it either

 

[iRONic]

NRA is winning big. Every household in America will have a gun soon.

I'm pretty sure guns in this country currently out number the American population.

If not it's close af...

 

[iRONic]

you didn't have to, it's the logical implication of MrSquished's statement that conservatives 'are fucking literal evil'

of course you didn't say it, but didn't disown or denounce it either

Shitlol! Whose projecting now...?

 

[tynopik]

Shitlol! Whose projecting now...?

i'm not the one trying to identify an entire group as less than human, as 'other'

 

[MrSquished]

You must have COVID because anyone who hangs out with the Bugaloo Boys supporting BLM doesn't pass the smell test. You aren't very bright either.

These people supported Trump. Truth is meaningless to them.

 

[MrSquished]

let's see, by literally dehumanzing an entire group of people based on their identity, you help rationalize any action against them

we call this confession through projection

(or being a fucking hypocrite, take your pick)

Do you think there have been evil segments of populations in other countries in the history of this planet? If not how do you explain all the evil shit that has happened over the centuries, done by large segments of populations of people on this planet?

If you do agree, do you think America is immune to having these same evil population segments?

i'm not the one trying to identify an entire group as less than human, as 'other'

Calling people evil is not dehumanizing them. It's just calling a spade a spade.

Actually it's the evil populations that dehumanize others, think Nazis, think Maoists, think Trumpies dehumanizing Mexicans and asylum seekers, or their religious base dehumanizing gays, etc...

 

[tynopik]

Actually it's the evil populations that dehumanize others, think Nazis, think Maoists, think Trumpies dehumanizing Mexicans and asylum seekers, or their religious base dehumanizing gays, etc...

someone just godwined themselves, comparing being against illegal immigation to nazis, uh huh

 

[MrSquished]

someone just godwined themselves, comparing being against illegal immigation to nazis, uh huh

I appreciate you snipping out the other questions, but since you want to go into comparing what other evil populations did, let's talk dehumanizing, even though you have already shown you have no clue what it means. Do you really think nazis and all those groups just started by shooting Jews in the streets? No, they de-humanized them. Lots of propaganda and hateful rhetoric, riling up the evil in evil people.

Trump did want to shoot them crossing the border, and had to be talked out of it, but oh his base would love it. I've seen many a Trumpie online think we should just shoot border crossers, and some in person have told me that. What do you think the whole separate the kids from the parents without a care about re-uniting them was about? That's not de-humanizing them? THat's literal permanent psychological torture. And the majority of the Trump party supported it

Or saying most of them are rapists and criminals. Not dehumanizing? What do you think people want to do to horrible criminals and rapists? It's dehumanizing them, it's what horrible leaders do to lead horrible people throughout history, blaming and dehumanizing the other, and then they do horrible things.

Are you normally this clueless? Have you read a history book?

 

[Vic]

i'm not the one trying to identify an entire group as less than human, as 'other'

You must not visit any right-wing message boards. Or twitter or FB for that matter.
Not saying it makes it right, but if you think what Squished says is alarming, you're going to be downright shocked by what those people are saying!

 

[MichaelMay]

Maybe they can introduce the criminal convictions of the people that assaulted him? You know the child molester, Rosenbaum?

No, I'm not a fascist, you are and as such you do what has been done every fucking time a white kid shot a place up, you look at the victims and blame them to make something righteous even though the shooter didn't know about any of that at the time.

It's just another variation of "shooting black people is always good" in the US, the "developed" (it's in quotes because the US never really developed beyond the puritan slavery ideals) nation.

I feel for the liberals who believe in the liberal ideals the nation was founded on, I do not feel for the fascists like you who would love to kill people if allowed... well... I suppose now you are allowed.

America, home of the fearful (which explains the need for guns).

 

[MichaelMay]

I appreciate you snipping out the other questions, but since you want to go into comparing what other evil populations did, let's talk dehumanizing, even though you have already shown you have no clue what it means. Do you really think nazis and all those groups just started by shooting Jews in the streets? No, they de-humanized them. Lots of propaganda and hateful rhetoric, riling up the evil in evil people.

Trump did want to shoot them crossing the border, and had to be talked out of it, but oh his base would love it. I've seen many a Trumpie online think we should just shoot border crossers, and some in person have told me that. What do you think the whole separate the kids from the parents without a care about re-uniting them was about? That's not de-humanizing them? THat's literal permanent psychological torture. And the majority of the Trump party supported it

Or saying most of them are rapists and criminals. Not dehumanizing? What do you think people want to do to horrible criminals and rapists? It's dehumanizing them, it's what horrible leaders do to lead horrible people throughout history, blaming and dehumanizing the other, and then they do horrible things.

Are you normally this clueless? Have you read a history book?

it should be noted that Godwin himself agrees that the likes of the person you were replying to should indeed be called Nazis because that is what they are.

In fact, the world agrees that the enemy should be called by its proper name.

 

[PlanetJosh]

Since the posts are going into more general subjects I'll throw in my 2 cents and neither one of them is a direct reference to the George Floyd case.

1. To help determine if the US is a racist nation let's consider the claims that the real estate industry has some problems in that area. Like discrimination against blacks in some regions. The conservatives here and elsewhere will probably fiercely claim it's isolated. If proof shows it's not isolated cases then it would be an indication of an inherently racist nation.

2. William Barr, former US attorney general under the Republican administration, said protestors like BLM over reacted to a small number like half a dozen cases of unjustified police murder of blacks. It was over a time period of one or two years. But some have countered that it's not true. That it was well over 200 murders or severe brutality against unarmed black men. Within the same time period. And that the victims were not lunging for an officer's gun or punching the officer.

We would need to check each one of those cases to see if there was any resistance to arrest that warranted a serious beating or death. If the beatings and killings by the authorities were not justified then it would be a strong indication the nation is inherently racist. Democrats and progressives will support the over 200 number and of course Republicans and other conservatives will claim the number is too high.

 

[tynopik]

You must not visit any right-wing message boards. Or twitter or FB for that matter.
Not saying it makes it right, but if you think what Squished says is alarming, you're going to be downright shocked by what those people are saying!

whataboutism at it's finest

how does their behavior there (i'll take your word for it as i'm not there) excuse your behavior here?

 

[HomerJS]

I'm happy to see this. Peaceful protestors in Kenosha have help to fend off those fucking white nationalist Trumpers.
The Protest for Justice Continues in Kenosha. It Has Armed Escorts Now (msn.com)

They tried rolling into Philly during a BLM protest and had their asses handed to them.

 

[Vic]

whataboutism at it's finest

how does their behavior there (i'll take your word for it as i'm not there) excuse your behavior here?

Please note where I said I wasn't excusing any behavior ("Not saying it makes it right").
And I have no idea what behavior of mine you are referring to, as I have been nothing but polite to you.

 

[Vic]

I'm happy to see this. Peaceful protestors in Kenosha have help to fend off those fucking white nationalist Trumpers.
The Protest for Justice Continues in Kenosha. It Has Armed Escorts Now (msn.com)

They tried rolling into Philly during a BLM protest and had their asses handed to them.

If anything good has happened here, it's that liberals are finally waking up to the 2a.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

You must have COVID because anyone who hangs out with the Bugaloo Boys supporting BLM doesn't pass the smell test. You aren't very bright either.

If you say so.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

No, I'm not a fascist, you are and as such you do what has been done every fucking time a white kid shot a place up, you look at the victims and blame them to make something righteous even though the shooter didn't know about any of that at the time.

It's just another variation of "shooting black people is always good" in the US, the "developed" (it's in quotes because the US never really developed beyond the puritan slavery ideals) nation.

I feel for the liberals who believe in the liberal ideals the nation was founded on, I do not feel for the fascists like you who would love to kill people if allowed... well... I suppose now you are allowed.

America, home of the fearful (which explains the need for guns).

Why would you think (erroneously) that i'm a fascist ? Yes, i live in Texas which has it's own self-defense laws. Unless you're the kind of fascist that thinks you should be able to force your own beliefs on other people in other States?

Look who's the authoritarian fascist in here and it's not me.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Since the posts are going into more general subjects I'll throw in my 2 cents and neither one of them is a direct reference to the George Floyd case.

1. To help determine if the US is a racist nation let's consider the claims that the real estate industry has some problems in that area. Like discrimination against blacks in some regions. The conservatives here and elsewhere will probably fiercely claim it's isolated. If proof shows it's not isolated cases then it would be an indication of an inherently racist nation.

2. William Barr, former US attorney general under the Republican administration, said protestors like BLM over reacted to a small number like half a dozen cases of unjustified police murder of blacks. It was over a time period of one or two years. But some have countered that it's not true. That it was well over 200 murders or severe brutality against unarmed black men. Within the same time period. And that the victims were not lunging for an officer's gun or punching the officer.

We would need to check each one of those cases to see if there was any resistance to arrest that warranted a serious beating or death. If the beatings and killings by the authorities were not justified then it would be a strong indication the nation is inherently racist. Democrats and progressives will support the over 200 number and of course Republicans and other conservatives will claim the number is too high.

Please name a country in the world that isn't racist following your template?

 

[Jaskalas]

If anything good has happened here, it's that liberals are finally waking up to the 2a.

They way they lied about Rittenhouse. The way they treated him. The way they continue to treat anyone and everyone not "them".... , they are going to need it.

 

[Vic]

They way they lied about Rittenhouse. The way they treated him. The way they continue to treat anyone and everyone not "them".... , they are going to need it.

Oh FFS..

 

[himkhan]

They way they lied about Rittenhouse. The way they treated him. The way they continue to treat anyone and everyone not "them".... , they are going to need it.

You are confused, as usual, as to who is going to "need it". Good luck!

 

[PlanetJosh]

Please name a country in the world that isn't racist following your template?

I agree but didn't want to go international in my post. I think people get tired of me saying most people in the world are bad which probably is the cause of racism on a national level in most countries. And wars. And not just most people in governments are bad, it's most people in the general population.

That's why the covid pandemic is a boon to the theory that most people are bad. Finally at least a few people here on the forums have changed their view that most people are good. The anti vax and pro Trump behavior of conservatives have riled up some progressives to the point they have finally admitted that most people are not good.

Edit: I'm adding this before any other posts have been made in the thread. Being a moderate I have to admit that it's the other way around too, that Dems and progressives have behaved badly to the point of conservatives saying they're had enough.