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shortylickens

No Lifer
Jul 15, 2003
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I have no issue with that at all.
And now you believe your opinion matters.
It doesnt.
Does not matter that YOU have a problem with it.
The kid acquired a weapon illegally and they ignored it. He also acted as a law enforcement officer in a situation he put himself in. And you ignored that.
But go ahead and run your mouth. It makes you feel so special and also prevents you from dealing with reality, which is a double whammy.
 
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shortylickens

No Lifer
Jul 15, 2003
82,854
17,365
136
How can it be illegal for someone to provide KR a rifle but be legal for KR to use the same rifle?

Doesn't make sense.
IF you are in a situation where you need to protect your own life, the law generally allows you to use whatever you have handy in order to do it. Go and dig around the internet and you'll find loads of stories where kids defended themselves with guns or knives or cars or even exotic items when they were attacked in the home or the streets.


The difference here is Kyle had no business driving out of his way to find trouble. He sought out a violent situation and added to the violence. He absolutely did not need to be in Kenosha that night. He went looking for trouble. He put himself in the middle of trouble. Then he shot people and cried self-defense. And the sympathetic judge continually reframed the issue until he looked like a hero, which of course appeases half of America. The violent, gun-humping half I should tell you. The vast majority of times a court would consider that a vigilante, and would not openly embrace and support him. They'd charge him and actually follow thru.



 

Greenman

Lifer
Oct 15, 1999
20,636
5,326
136
And now you believe your opinion matters.
It doesnt.
Does not matter that YOU have a problem with it.
The kid acquired a weapon illegally and they ignored it. He also acted as a law enforcement officer in a situation he put himself in. And you ignored that.
But go ahead and run your mouth. It makes you feel so special and also prevents you from dealing with reality, which is a double whammy.
You're angry that I have no issue with the fellow who supplied Rittenhouse with a gun being prosecuted? You're arguing in a circle. Not surprising as you're not terribly bright, but I guess that's to be expected from a fellow who hands out "double whammy's".
 
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spacejamz

Lifer
Mar 31, 2003
10,837
1,489
126
IF you are in a situation where you need to protect your own life, the law generally allows you to use whatever you have handy in order to do it. Go and dig around the internet and you'll find loads of stories where kids defended themselves with guns or knives or cars or even exotic items when they were attacked in the home or the streets.


The difference here is Kyle had no business driving out of his way to find trouble. He sought out a violent situation and added to the violence. He absolutely did not need to be in Kenosha that night. He went looking for trouble. He put himself in the middle of trouble. Then he shot people and cried self-defense. And the sympathetic judge continually reframed the issue until he looked like a hero, which of course appeases half of America. The violent, gun-humping half I should tell you. The vast majority of times a court would consider that a vigilante, and would not openly embrace and support him. They'd charge him and actually follow thru.




There were plenty of other people out there who were exercising the exact same 'freedoms' that was KR was excercising.

Notice how NONE of them were attacked with skateboards, kicked in the head or had a gun pointed at them so they didn't have to defend themselves.

Why cant you understand that if someone assaults you or points a gun at you, you are a legally entitled to defend yourself. Why can't you understand that KR even ran initially and was pursued by his assailants?

It is pretty obvious that you, like the many in this country who only get their news from liberal sources cannot look at this situation objectively.
 

shortylickens

No Lifer
Jul 15, 2003
82,854
17,365
136
You're angry that I have no issue with the fellow who supplied Rittenhouse with a gun being prosecuted? You're arguing in a circle. Not surprising as you're not terribly bright, but I guess that's to be expected from a fellow who hands out "double whammy's".
Yeah, you're just mouthing off now. You got nothing except that mouth.
Sorry, I cant argue with a child. I don't know how.
 

shortylickens

No Lifer
Jul 15, 2003
82,854
17,365
136
There were plenty of other people out there who were exercising the exact same 'freedoms' that was KR was excercising.

Notice how NONE of them were attacked with skateboards, kicked in the head or had a gun pointed at them so they didn't have to defend themselves.

Why cant you understand that if someone assaults you or points a gun at you, you are a legally entitled to defend yourself. Why can't you understand that KR even ran initially and was pursued by his assailants?

It is pretty obvious that you, like the many in this country who only get their news from liberal sources cannot look at this situation objectively.
And thanks again so much for proving how stupid you are.
You have no evidence I get my news news from "liberal sources". And you are not objective. You're full of shit and too stupid to ever see it.

Oh, I forgot, in addition to going out of his way to enter a situation in which he did not belong, he shot a man laying down. Thats not self-defense either.
But you're a psycho who wants to murder liberals so you'll conveniently ignore that too.
 
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pmv

Lifer
May 30, 2008
13,273
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136
So if the guy who got shot by Rittenhouse, while pointing his own gun at the guy, had fired first, and killed Rittenhouse - would the entire case have played out in reverse?

As Rittenhouse shot him ('vaporising' his bicep, reportedly) he must, logically, have also been pointing _his_ gun at that guy. That guy I'm sure could also have claimed to have been in fear for his life, especially as Rittenhouse had already shot someone at that point.

The whole thing seems absurd, and a consequence of what an insane country the US is.
 

pmv

Lifer
May 30, 2008
13,273
8,198
136
I mean, there's a reason why only people from failed states want to migrate to the US. They're the only people who feel at home there.
 
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MrSquished

Lifer
Jan 14, 2013
21,918
20,203
136
The problem here is that you believe your opinion to be fact, it's not. The weapons charge was dropped by an actual judge, a fellow who went to law school. While I'm sure your legal training was top notch, perhaps you missed the day Wisconsin gun laws were discussed. FYI, crossing state lines is completely legal. Tens of thousands of people do it every day. Most states even have a welcoming sign at the border.
Everything else is hyperbole and sophistry. You ignore the entire situation as if the single event of Rittenhouse being attacked happened in a vacuum, it didn't.
Four stupid people met on the street that night, that two died is tragic, but not surprising. That you believe your opinion should carry more weight than the jury is also tragic, but not surprising.
Juries let off horrific criminals in the south many times in our history, you would have thought that was just fine too.

Of course you don't care about Republicans eroding democracy, and not just when Europeans observe it, but when Americans observe it, both conservative and liberal.

If anybody's opinion doesn't matter here on serious legal and moral issues, it's certainly not his, it's you. Your opinion is a joke to anyone intellectually honest.
 
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zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
110,806
29,557
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The problem here is that you believe your opinion to be fact, it's not. The weapons charge was dropped by an actual judge, a fellow who went to law school. While I'm sure your legal training was top notch, perhaps you missed the day Wisconsin gun laws were discussed. FYI, crossing state lines is completely legal. Tens of thousands of people do it every day. Most states even have a welcoming sign at the border.
Everything else is hyperbole and sophistry. You ignore the entire situation as if the single event of Rittenhouse being attacked happened in a vacuum, it didn't.
Four stupid people met on the street that night, that two died is tragic, but not surprising. That you believe your opinion should carry more weight than the jury is also tragic, but not surprising.

damn you angry.

Imagine if you put this much effort into actually reading and understanding the very clear Mueller report which you still claim to have strong opinions about, but handwave away anyway.

Imagine if you cared about watching and listening to a judge with clear, demonstrable bias issues, rather than handwave away his support of your bias with "he's a judge, therefore I don't care."

Look how easily you bend to authority. It's almost like you are everything you hate. You just refuse to see it.

lol, think of all the absolutely innocent people murdered by the state over the years, which we know for absolute fact. "Well, it's the law. Some law-talking guy made it so, so it's so."

You re exactly the reason that freedom dies. You don't give a flying fuck about justice or the law.
 
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HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
36,282
28,141
136
IF you are in a situation where you need to protect your own life, the law generally allows you to use whatever you have handy in order to do it. Go and dig around the internet and you'll find loads of stories where kids defended themselves with guns or knives or cars or even exotic items when they were attacked in the home or the streets.


The difference here is Kyle had no business driving out of his way to find trouble. He sought out a violent situation and added to the violence. He absolutely did not need to be in Kenosha that night. He went looking for trouble. He put himself in the middle of trouble. Then he shot people and cried self-defense. And the sympathetic judge continually reframed the issue until he looked like a hero, which of course appeases half of America. The violent, gun-humping half I should tell you. The vast majority of times a court would consider that a vigilante, and would not openly embrace and support him. They'd charge him and actually follow thru.



This pie applies to people refusing to vaccinate or wear masks
 

NWRMidnight

Platinum Member
Jun 18, 2001
2,974
2,578
136
Any semiautomatic weapon can be modified to go full auto. What is your point?
What's my point? You are trying to argue that an AR 15 is not an assault weapon, yet the only real difference is the fact that it is only semi automatic, which means it is just 1 modification away from being a full blown military or police grade Assault rifle. (of course you can't attach a grenade launcher to the AR15, but that isn't a feature that designates it as a full blown assault rifle.) If you read the very link you shared, you would have known exactly what my point is.. but you, and the dumbass that liked your comment (Imported_Tajmahal) has their head so far up their asses when it comes to reality, you can't see past your own stupidity when it comes the AR-15. Which leads you to throw up articles on the M4/AR15 differences, trying to argue such stupidity, when the fact remains, they are virtually the same gun except for the automatic feature.
 
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NWRMidnight

Platinum Member
Jun 18, 2001
2,974
2,578
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Literally you are wrong.
go read your own article.. quote from your own link you supplied "Don’t sweat it too much, though, because the AR-15 is virtually the same gun without the fully automatic capabilities, and there are some options for making it even more similar. " They are talking about the M4 and the AR15
 

emperus

Diamond Member
Apr 6, 2012
7,782
1,540
126
So if the guy who got shot by Rittenhouse, while pointing his own gun at the guy, had fired first, and killed Rittenhouse - would the entire case have played out in reverse?

As Rittenhouse shot him ('vaporising' his bicep, reportedly) he must, logically, have also been pointing _his_ gun at that guy. That guy I'm sure could also have claimed to have been in fear for his life, especially as Rittenhouse had already shot someone at that point.

The whole thing seems absurd, and a consequence of what an insane country the US is.
Exactly, he would have a right to self defense in that scenario. Outside how utterly absurd it is to argue that the guy meant to shoot, all the while the guy never fired a gun, before or after he was shot. The dissonance is alarming, the guy pointed a gun a Kyle so Kyle was in fear of his life, but Kyle pointed a gun at someone but that person shouldn't have been in fear for his life.
 

NWRMidnight

Platinum Member
Jun 18, 2001
2,974
2,578
136
There were plenty of other people out there who were exercising the exact same 'freedoms' that was KR was excercising.

Notice how NONE of them were attacked with skateboards, kicked in the head or had a gun pointed at them so they didn't have to defend themselves.

Why cant you understand that if someone assaults you or points a gun at you, you are a legally entitled to defend yourself. Why can't you understand that KR even ran initially and was pursued by his assailants?

It is pretty obvious that you, like the many in this country who only get their news from liberal sources cannot look at this situation objectively.
Did you notice nobody else shot an unarmed person that caused other's to chase after them with a gun or a skate board? funny how so many of you keep throwing this stupid argument up, ignoring that very fact. As for the self defense argument, go read the article that was put up a few pages ago, which explained exactly why he got off using the self defense argument, specially with a judge who did everything he could to ensure that he was found not guilty.
 

shortylickens

No Lifer
Jul 15, 2003
82,854
17,365
136
And what I feared would happen, has happened:


People are using the self-defense excuse when it was not self defense. They had no legal right to chase her down. They arent police. And because she ran away from them they cannot call it self-defense. They should have called the cops and she would be sitting in jail right now for fleeing the scene of an accident and reckless endangerment and probably speeding.
Instead they CREATED a situation at her house where she was forced to defend herself.

America really is full of selfish self-centered people and its not gonna survive. We are going to collapse from the inside, like Rome.
 
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