Rittenhouse verdict poll

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kage69

Lifer
Jul 17, 2003
28,019
38,496
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It does seem like he has a high probability of turning into human garbage like George Zimmerman. Let’s hope he learns something and goes down a different path.

Was just talking about this with someone yesterday, wrt Zimmerman. Are we going to see Rittenhouse auction off his AR? He's now a superstar of the Gadsen flag crowd.
 
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HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
36,282
28,141
136
After the Judge tossed the weapons charge, I'm inclined towards "not guilty on all charges" as the most likely outcome--I doubt the defense will even need to ask the judge for a mistrial but I'm sure they have motions at the ready just in case. Prosecution was fighting an uphill battle as the law in Wisconsin is slightly biased towards instigators with guns who are non-liberal and non-colored (at least in that courtroom.)
I've already predicted just like George Zimmerman Rittenhouse will reveal himself to be the dirtbag most of us think he is.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
36,282
28,141
136
Have to read the clear exceptions below the bolded section:

(c) This section applies only to a person under 18 years of age who possesses or is armed with a rifle or a shotgun if the person is in violation of s. 941.28 or is not in compliance with ss. 29.304 and 29.593.

That is, this whole section does not apply to someone with a rifle or shotgun, unless it is illegally shortened / sawed-off (941.28), or if they are under 16 and the under-16 year old is lacking a hunting certificate (29.304/29.593).
Yeah I see the section where the law was poorly written. They were not specific enough concerning minors 17 years old.
 

sportage

Lifer
Feb 1, 2008
11,493
3,159
136
If people thought this judge went off the wall on the prosecution, just wait until this jury constantly asks and re-asks this judge for further clarification on his instructions. This judge will absolutely freak.
 

Pohemi

Diamond Member
Oct 2, 2004
9,366
12,740
146
...You have no clue about laws and every post you make exemplifies this. Stop talking.
...If you want to actually want to learn some of the law from real lawyers on this case...watch Rekieta Law on youtube...
...Literally everything you and the vast majority of posters on this forum say about these cases are exactly opposite of what any analysis from real PRACTICING criminal lawyers in both defense and prosecution is saying about these cases...
Are you literally this fucking insane? Dozens upon dozens of active criminal lawyers are the ones giving their legal analysis on this case and you just want to dismiss that a random youtube video. Literally you are so fucking insane you should check yourself into a mental hospital for such a stupid comment.
I'll simply wrap with this little hilarious gem:
Confession through projection again much?
 

MtnMan

Diamond Member
Jul 27, 2004
8,819
7,974
136
The judge took the illegal weapons charge off the table...

Now, what was his motive?
  • To make sure that he walks?
  • To improve the chances of a felony conviction?
 

sportage

Lifer
Feb 1, 2008
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3,159
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Fox... Fox News.
Already with the excuses should the court rule guilty.
Fox, claiming that the jurors know and have seen the national guard in the streets sent into the area thus the jury will find guilty to avoid a riot.
Amazing to watch the different spins from right wing vs left wing media.
They can't even agree to cold blooded murder when politics comes into play.
For Fox, this isn't about murder, this is all about BLMatters and how dare they.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
36,282
28,141
136
Fox... Fox News.
Already with the excuses should the court rule guilty.
Fox, claiming that the jurors know and have seen the national guard in the streets sent into the area thus the jury will find guilty to avoid a riot.
Amazing to watch the different spins from right wing vs left wing media.
They can't even agree to cold blooded murder when politics comes into play.
For Fox, this isn't about murder, this is all about BLMatters and how dare they.
G-A-S-L-I-G-H-T-I-N-G

They said the same thing about the Chauvin jury and that jury set the record straight after the trial.
 
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kage69

Lifer
Jul 17, 2003
28,019
38,496
136
I expect the Proud Boys and other racist needledick fuckwads out there will start massing again, you know, because antifa.

All the other Kyle Rittenhouses of Meal Team 6 can't wait to dress up again. Gotta get out there strapped and wearing armor, maybe pepper spray and baton some kids and women. Can't let protestors try to intimidate people with signs or harsh language now can we?
 

UNCjigga

Lifer
Dec 12, 2000
24,842
9,087
136
I honestly think people should be ashamed if they are so easily triggered with a “guilty” / “not guilty” verdict in this case that they need to riot in the streets or otherwise cause more mayhem. If people think this judge wasn’t fair or impartial, they should pay more attention to the process that got him seated on the bench in the first place, and the local elections that influence those decisions.

That said, whatever the outcome, I really hope Rittenhouse keeps a low profile after this case and doesn’t buy into the media firestorm. It’s horrible to have to go through life as someone who’s either worshipped or reviled for taking 2 lives and injuring another during a night of stupidity. He deserves a shot at a normal life (which his “victims” won’t get) and the sooner everyone forgets his name, the better.
 
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Fenixgoon

Lifer
Jun 30, 2003
31,808
10,344
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I honestly think people should be ashamed if they are so easily triggered with a “guilty” / “not guilty” verdict in this case that they need to riot in the streets or otherwise cause more mayhem. If people think this judge wasn’t fair or impartial, they should pay more attention to the process that got him seated on the bench in the first place, and the local elections that influence those decisions.

That said, whatever the outcome, I really hope Rittenhouse keeps a low profile after this case and doesn’t buy into the media firestorm. It’s horrible to have to go through life as someone who’s either worshipped or reviled for taking 2 lives and injuring another during a night of stupidity. He deserves a shot at a normal life (which his “victims” won’t get) and the sooner everyone forgets his name, the better.
In general I agree, but what else can people do when the legal system refuses to provide them justice on any consistent basis, and has refused to do so for literally centuries?

If our justice system really were closer to providing justice, people wouldn't feel the need to riot.
 
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senseamp

Lifer
Feb 5, 2006
35,787
6,195
126
Liberals need to wise up and understand that if armed fascists come to their town, only they can defend themselves, police and the courts won't.
 
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m8d

Senior member
Nov 5, 2012
635
1,022
136
The world can see what a joke of a country AmeriKKKa really is.
 

thraashman

Lifer
Apr 10, 2000
11,084
1,505
126
Liberals need to wise up and understand that if armed fascists come to their town, only they can defend themselves, police and the courts won't.
But if you post that you should arm in response and defend against them, you'll be sentenced to 44 months in prison. Whereas if a righty just outright fucking murders you, the judge will do everything he can to make sure he skates.
 
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sportage

Lifer
Feb 1, 2008
11,493
3,159
136
Just an FYI, Law and Crime channel are showing the actual video as played in court where as CNN and the others keep a fixed camera on the courtroom.

I do hope that the jury foreman is not as prejudice as is this judge. Otherwise, the foreman will slant the deliberations with assuring a Rittenhouse not guilty verdict. And allowing almost any pro Rittenhouse argument to rule. Allowing that to happen could have been the reasoning for the judge giving such idiotic nonsensical jury guidance.
 

senseamp

Lifer
Feb 5, 2006
35,787
6,195
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But if you post that you should arm in response and defend against them, you'll be sentenced to 44 months in prison. Whereas if a righty just outright fucking murders you, the judge will do everything he can to make sure he skates.
You can serve on juries too.
 

sportage

Lifer
Feb 1, 2008
11,493
3,159
136
This trial illustrates and is the perfect example of how and why guns make people freakin crazy. This is why America is so gun happy and gun insane. This carnage should only be seen in war, war like Vietnam and Afghanistan war, or... and when awakened in the middle of the night hearing house intrusion. But hey, let's thank the NRA and the congresses butt kissing of the NRA for elevating THE GUN to be the decider in every argument, especially in the little arguments. Frankly, and again, this all comes down America's unholy alliance to assault weapons. You don't hunt deer with an assault weapon, you don't hunt rabbit's with an assault weapon, what you do with an assault weapon is to kill people. Again, thanks NRA.

I say it again, the average American does not possess the intelligence to own a hand gun let alone to own or operate an assault weapon. Don't believe me? Just watch any one episode of the tv series FEAR THY NEIGHBOR. Actual true episodes, one after another, of neighbors bringing a gun into simple innocent neighbor vs neighbor disagreement. And guess what.... someone always dies from a gunshot.
Dog pissed on the roses? Kill thy neighbor. Kids playing too loud? Kill thy neighbor. You didn't get invited to the neighborhood holiday BBQ event? KILL THY NEIGHBOR. I tell you, America is f-ing nutz and f-ing gun insane. Rittenhouse, case in one.
 

digiram

Diamond Member
Apr 17, 2004
3,991
172
106
I voted for the likely outcome.. not my opinion on what should happen to someone who played stupid game and should win stupid prize. I guess that's only for people of color.
 
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