The OP already made his choice, you should create a thread talking about the VRM issue on the GTX 570 and look for facts to prove wrong or right your or his arguments instead of bringing them here and creating a warzone without purpose.
Its because you don't have any facts to back up your 'opinion'.
Nvida would. I'm seeing this in your posts , more than here, that you pointing to the memory buffer size as the ONLY factor in your decision making. The gtx 570 has 1280 memory and is designed for those resolutions and higher if run in SLI for surround . There are maybe going to be limitations possibly above 2560X1600 where some games/settings having more memory might help.
But if the OP plays any physX games, or heavy tessellation games, the gtx 570 has a edge. The poster having had Nvidia, might want to try AMD ? That would be as valid a reason, as any, but not pointing to memory size and deeming he has no choice.
The OP already made his choice, you should create a thread talking about the VRM issue on the GTX 570 and look for facts to prove wrong or right your or his arguments instead of bringing them here and creating a warzone without purpose.
If you have a problem with a post, use the report button. Your neither a moderator or being useful yourself.
I'm going to challenge a broad comment, that itself serves no purpose and uselessly negative. There are thousands of gtx 570 owners ,(proud) that shelled out some big bucks, and have to read, unsubstantiated fairy tales, how they bought a piece of crap. I'd challenge any broad statement like that , especially when the comment was directed at my post.
To 3D, now your getting in to CPU- GPU multi-tasking with workstation software and game playing ? Never heard of it. And I don't think its going to perform better than Fermi's do in CS5, or if Cayman even supports GPU acceleration in CS5 .
Are you hearing show tunes right now ?Hey why the rage? I was useful in this thread as I never derailed the thread and answered the OP's question, unlike you that started an unnecessary argument unrelated to the thread. If you have a problem with this thread, just create another one and become useful. If you like the GTX 570 so much, buy one yourself and let the OP enjoy his HD 6970
Are you hearing show tunes right now ?
Op, good luck with your choice.
at 2560x1600 4xAA the 6970 is closer to a gtx 580 than it is to a gtx 570. go up to 8xAA and it gets even closer. 1280mb of memory on the 570 is just a significant limiting factor in current games, and that is likely to only get worse over the next couple of years, not better. Generally speaking at 25x16 a 6970 is better, at 19x12 they are equal, and below that the 570 is better. Plus, if OP ends up going dual card the AMD scales better.
notty, thanks for your insulting personal message, you had been reported.
What is the purpose of this post?
1280mb of vram is not a limiting factor for the 570.
I play at 5760x1200 and cannot find a game in which the vram limits me. By the time i would hit a vram wall the card is no longer giving playable framerates anyways and in many cases the 580 or 6970 wont be either.
The limiting factor of the card is more core speed and unlocked cores when compared to the 580.
If your choice is between the 6970 and 570.
I would choose the 6970 if you do not mind:
ati drivers, lack of aa in some titles and upon release in others where nvidia has aa already (batman, starcraft 2, and more), no physx (not a big deal yet, although some engines are now being fitted to ramp up physx usage), somewhat less tessellation (probably not a big deal either)
For me the drivers drove me back to Nvidia. ATi makes insanely nice hardware and really poor software.
I'm guessing thats with 2 570s?
1280mb of vram is not a limiting factor for the 570.
I play at 5760x1200 and cannot find a game in which the vram limits me. By the time i would hit a vram wall the card is no longer giving playable framerates anyways and in many cases the 580 or 6970 wont be either.
The limiting factor of the card is more core speed and unlocked cores when compared to the 580.
If your choice is between the 6970 and 570.
I would choose the 6970 if you do not mind:
ati drivers, lack of aa in some titles and upon release in others where nvidia has aa already (batman, starcraft 2, and more), no physx (not a big deal yet, although some engines are now being fitted to ramp up physx usage), somewhat less tessellation (probably not a big deal either)
For me the drivers drove me back to Nvidia. ATi makes insanely nice hardware and really poor software.
1280mb of vram is not a limiting factor for the 570.
I play at 5760x1200 and cannot find a game in which the vram limits me. By the time i would hit a vram wall the card is no longer giving playable framerates anyways and in many cases the 580 or 6970 wont be either.
The limiting factor of the card is more core speed and unlocked cores when compared to the 580.
If your choice is between the 6970 and 570.
I would choose the 6970 if you do not mind:
ati drivers, lack of aa in some titles and upon release in others where nvidia has aa already (batman, starcraft 2, and more), no physx (not a big deal yet, although some engines are now being fitted to ramp up physx usage), somewhat less tessellation (probably not a big deal either)
For me the drivers drove me back to Nvidia. ATi makes insanely nice hardware and really poor software.
That's what I thought, considering that AMD has better VRAM management. If the GTX 570 performed so well at such huge resolution, the GTX 580 wouldn't had made sense, or any 2GB videocard.
You know I find it interesting that we see threads for both nVidia and AMD with troubles. Not once have I seen anyone, except for possibly tongue in cheek, tell the OP it's crappy nVidia drivers AMD's are so much better, even when it's a driver issue. Although, if a thread goes long enough, someone will throw in how they hate AMD because of their drivers even when it's not applicable to the thread.
Both companies have driver issues. It's a fact of life with PC gaming. If you truly want to avoid driver issues, don't game on a PC, buy a console.
I'm guessing thats with 2 570s?
It is with two 570s but my vram limitations are the same.
"With 2GB of RAM our AMD cards finally break out of the minimum framerate crash Crysis experiences with 1GB AMD cards. Our rankings are similar to our averages, with the 6970 taking a small lead while the 6950 holds close to the 570."Good post. I find it funny, with the same exact graphically intensive games out as there was 5 months ago that a 5870 is not enough now. Suddenly 2gb is the minimum to play games at high res.
Is this the real truth? Its allways been possible to use more then 1gb of ram in any game, even a year ago, but suddenly its become a purchasing decision, thats wrong.
Bottom line............... a gtx570 is enough to play any game at 2500x1600 at high details for 40$ less then a 6970.If you choose to play at ultra high details neither will play these peticular games (Metro , Crysis), at a high enough framerate to matter.
"With 2GB of RAM our AMD cards finally break out of the minimum framerate crash Crysis experiences with 1GB AMD cards. Our rankings are similar to our averages, with the 6970 taking a small lead while the 6950 holds close to the 570."
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4061/amds-radeon-hd-6970-radeon-hd-6950/13
There's 1 example where the RAM is a limiting factor and as we move forward I expect games to become more intensive than that. The minimum frame rates tank according to the link at higher resolutions.
Good post. I find it funny, with the same exact graphically intensive games out as there was 5 months ago that a 5870 is not enough now. Suddenly 2gb is the minimum to play games at high res.
Is this the real truth? Its allways been possible to use more then 1gb of ram in any game, even a year ago, but suddenly its become a purchasing decision, thats wrong.
Bottom line............... a gtx570 is enough to play any game at 2500x1600 at high details for 40$ less then a 6970.If you choose to play at ultra high details neither will play these peticular games (Metro , Crysis), at a high enough framerate to matter.
Where? The Egg is $10 difference after rebate. Same price before rebate. Besides @ 2560 the 6970 is overall a faster card than the 570. Add to it the 2Gig of RAM, which no matter how hard you spin is a good thing, and as I said it's a no brainer.