Totally not a factor.
But the very first report on this story makes sure we know the victim is black and the perpetrator is white........
Asked if race was a factor in the slaying — Desper is white and Roberson black — Hogan said there was no indication that race played a role. "This appears to be a savage, senseless and brutal act from one human being to another human being," he said.
This is actually a case where he wouldn't.
What country is that? Let's look up the murder rates.
And youve determined this how? You know the guy? Law abiding upstanding citizen?
He was no true gun owner. Right?
Huh? He legally owned his gun. I dont know what a "true gun owner" is, but I know what an irresponsible one is...this guy.
I asked him what country he was from. You then speculate he is from Honduras? Stfu.
And because he was irresponsible you don't include him in the group of "good" gun owners. A logical fallicy.
It's the classic gun owner argument.
Im still not sure what the argument actually is, but OK. Ive never heard it.
By your definition a "true gun owner" and an "irresponsible one" are mutually exclusive. It's a fallacy that makes rhetoric worthless.Huh? He legally owned his gun. I dont know what a "true gun owner" is, but I know what an irresponsible one is...this guy.
Then you haven't been in many gun debates around here. When you start looking at the statistics owning a gun is horribly unsafe.
By your definition a "true gun owner" and an "irresponsible one" are mutually exclusive. It's a fallacy that makes rhetoric worthless.
It's the "No True Scotsman" of the gun debate.TBH Ive never thought about what a "true gun owner" is. Are there false ones? Are there untrue ones? What am I missing? AFAIK there are gun owners and non gun owners.
It's the "No True Scotsman" of the gun debate.
OK. All I said is he was irresponsible. Do you disagree? Its no different than alcohol or cars, both of which kill more people than guns. There are responsible drinkers and irresponsible ones, and there are responsible car drivers and irresponsible ones. So in that sense., drinking or driving a car is even more horribly unsafe.
Have you shot a gun? You can kill in a instant. Now you want to equate it to vehicular homicide? No. Big difference. This guy wasn't risking his hillbilly pick up truck ramming this lady. He just lined up the sights and pulled a trigger blowing a black girls brains all over the inside of her car.
And this is where we agree to disagree. Which is fine with me.Owning a gun makes you less safe. That's the reality of the situation.
And this is where we agree to disagree. Which is fine with me.
No, what's sad is you can't separate responsible gun ownership and irresponsible. To you, it appears its all irresponsible.Very unsafe. Sad!
All the data? You sure about that?Actually all the data available shows owning a gun to be unsafe.