Road Rage Shooting in PA - Young Woman Killed

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JSt0rm

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All the data? You sure about that?

Yes. There isn't much because the NRA blocked it all via pulling funding via congress critters but the Saracen that exists show you have a greater chance of blowing your child's brains out then ever being some heroic hero killing invaders in your home who had plans of raping and killing your entire family.
 
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TheVrolok

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Actually all the data available shows owning a gun to be unsafe.
I don't even understand how people argue this fundamentally basic point. You are more likely to be injured by a gun if you own one, than if you don't. It's so basic on its face, and yet people so vehemently disagree.
 
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blackangst1

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Yes. There isn't much because the NRA blocked it all via pulling funding via congress critters but the Saracen that exists show you have a greater chance of blowing your child's brains out then ever being some heroic hero killing invaders in your home who had plans of raping and killing your entire family.
That's some tinfoil hat shit right there lol
 

blackangst1

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I don't even understand how people argue this fundamentally basic point. You are more likely to be injured by a gun if you own one, than if you don't. It's so basic on its face, and yet people so vehemently disagree.
I would agree with that basic point. Can't shoot your kid in anger if you don't have one.
 

ch33zw1z

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Pretty fucki terrible. Hope he rots.

It's too early to tell if race specifically was the issue, not sure we'll ever know.

I speculate that truck driver would not have fired if the victim was of a different skin tone.
 

buckshot24

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if you carry a gun you risk becoming irrational in a situation and killing another person. Humans are flawed creatures. I bet this pick up driving, rural living, trump supporting man was all about his freedumb.
He was driving a 2 ton projectile.
 

blackangst1

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By your definition a "true gun owner" and an "irresponsible one" are mutually exclusive. It's a fallacy that makes rhetoric worthless.
I'd a true gun owner (again not familiar with this term) means a responsible gun owner then yes. They are mutually exclusive by definition. Unless, of course, you're in the camp that thinks all gun owners are irresponsible.
 
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buckshot24

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Sure, but the comparison you made was intellectually dishonest.
Yeah, I don't think so. If he had no gun and was angry enough to shoot her then he was angry enough to ram her with the truck. The intent of the designers of the truck is 100% irrelevant.
 

JSt0rm

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I'd a true gun owner (again not familiar with this term) means a responsible gun owner then yes. They are mutually exclusive by definition. Unless, of course, you're in the camp that thinks all gun owners are irresponsible.

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You are dumb. Lol
 

TheVrolok

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I'd a true gun owner (again not familiar with this term) means a responsible gun owner then yes. They are mutually exclusive by definition. Unless, of course, you're in the camp that thinks all gun owners are irresponsible.

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Dude, we've been over "No True Scotsman" a few times now. Read up.
 

JSt0rm

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All of the pro gun guys have weak ass arguments. May as well be religion.
 

TheVrolok

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Yeah, I don't think so. If he had no gun and was angry enough to shoot her then he was angry enough to ram her with the truck. The intent of the designers of the truck is 100% irrelevant.
This is purely speculation/supposition. How do you make that leap? He used an instrument designed to kill, to kill. Watch this, no he wouldn't have. Here we are, on opposite side of an absurd point of contention that does nothing to further the discussion.
 
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