Road & Track 2006 Eclipse review

[sniperruff]

whether you like the styling or not, $23k for a sports coupe that goes 0-60 in 5.8s with a 5yr/60000 bumper to bumper warranty? pretty good if you ask me.

 

[TuffGuy]

Originally posted by: mwmorph
I didnt say it was better, just lighter. 02 camry btw.(3164lbs). considering it is a 3.3L V6. tht is retty good. also, if you hadnt noticed, the V6 auto version only weighs in at 3450lbs.

why are so defensive about this car anyway. i mean relax. it's a car, it's not like someone is slamming your family.

FWD, not really sport but just "sporty" and overweight does not paint a pretty picture. RWD is preferred on sports cars for a reason. weight and balance gain.

The current Camry is considerably heavier and more bloated than yours. It drives and feels like a leather couch on wheels.

RWD is preferred for a reason, but if you want a 250+hp sports coupe that does 0-60mph in under 6 seconds, you're looking at the G35 coupe. Which also weighs 3500lbs and costs $12k more.

And weighs on cars are increasing for a reason. First off, this is America, the land of Impalas, Crown Vics, and SUVs. Secondly, there's the ever increasing safety equipment that has to be added to cars.

 

[Viper GTS]

Originally posted by: sniperruff
whether you like the styling or not, $23k for a sports coupe that goes 0-60 in 5.8s with a 5yr/60000 bumper to bumper warranty? pretty good if you ask me.

Umm...

SRT-4?

Warranty isn't quite as long but it's faster, more powerful, cheaper, and Dodge will actually be around in 5 years.

Viper GTS

 

[TuffGuy]

Originally posted by: mwmorph
i see the mid 90s stage fro mitsu all over again, where the so called "sports car" is bloated so much with luxuries, they must raise hp to compensate(remember supra,300zx). when will mitsu learn, less is more. look at the elsie. 1980lbs, a "measly" 1.8l 190hp/125tq engine will smoke almost any car out there in a real track. it is very fast accelerating(4.9 to 60) and it is much better handling.

How many Americans could fit their fat asses into an Elise, and how many Americans would sacrifice comfort to drive a stipped down car like the Elise?

 

[MikeMike]

And weighs on cars are increasing for a reason. First off, this is America, the land of Impalas, Crown Vics, and SUVs.

wtf does that have to do ANYTHING with this car?

its an extra heavy FWD coupe, and its a mitsubishi at that.

MIKE

 

[TuffGuy]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: sniperruff
whether you like the styling or not, $23k for a sports coupe that goes 0-60 in 5.8s with a 5yr/60000 bumper to bumper warranty? pretty good if you ask me.

Umm...

SRT-4?

Viper GTS

You mean the glorified Neon? It only has a warranty of 3yrs/36k miles, and I doubt that it's any near as luxurious or as reliable as the Eclipse.

 

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: TuffGuy

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: sniperruff
whether you like the styling or not, $23k for a sports coupe that goes 0-60 in 5.8s with a 5yr/60000 bumper to bumper warranty? pretty good if you ask me.

Umm...

SRT-4?

Viper GTS

You mean the glorified Neon? It only has a warranty of 3yrs/36k miles, and I doubt that it's any near as luxurious or as reliable as the Eclipse.

Cobalt SS.

hehe, a reliable Mitsubishi.

MIKE

 

[Viper GTS]

Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1
hehe, a reliable Mitsubishi.

MIKE

No kidding.

Cobalt SS would be a decent alternative as well.

SRT-4 is one wicked little car though.

Viper GTS

 

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1
hehe, a reliable Mitsubishi.

MIKE

No kidding.

Cobalt SS would be a decent alternative as well.

SRT-4 is one wicked little car though.

Viper GTS

SRT-4 and the SS run about the same times, SS is better refined than the SRT-4 also.

MIKE

 

[TuffGuy]

Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1

And weighs on cars are increasing for a reason. First off, this is America, the land of Impalas, Crown Vics, and SUVs.

wtf does that have to do ANYTHING with this car?

its an extra heavy FWD coupe, and its a mitsubishi at that.

MIKE

It has EVERYTHING to do with this car. This car has been made for AMERICAN demand. Which is why it's not present in any other markets. American like big cars.

Which is why when Mitsu introduced the V6 3rd gen, sales increased.

At the turboed peak, the 1st gen and 2nd gen Eclipses never sold a lot of GSTs or GSXs. I think that they only accounted for 15% of the sales. Most of the ones still on the road today the NON-turbo versions. The V6 accounted for a huge portion of the 3nd gen sales.

 

[TuffGuy]

Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1

Originally posted by: TuffGuy

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: sniperruff
whether you like the styling or not, $23k for a sports coupe that goes 0-60 in 5.8s with a 5yr/60000 bumper to bumper warranty? pretty good if you ask me.

Umm...

SRT-4?

Viper GTS

You mean the glorified Neon? It only has a warranty of 3yrs/36k miles, and I doubt that it's any near as luxurious or as reliable as the Eclipse.

Cobalt SS.

hehe, a reliable Mitsubishi.

MIKE

Laugh all you want, but they're still more reliable than Fords and Chevys. And way better put together.

The Cobalt SS is not only slower than the new Eclipse, but at the end of the day, it's still a renamed Cavalier.

 

[Viper GTS]

Originally posted by: TuffGuy
Laugh all you want, but they're still more reliable than Fords and Chevys. And way better put together.

The Cobalt SS is not only slower than the new Eclipse, but at the end of the day, it's still a renamed Cavalier.

Very seriously doubt that. And it's a totally new vehicle, not a Cavalier.

Viper GTS

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: sniperruff

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: sandman018
/shrug

I enjoy my evo8

STI > Evo8

not on the track says best motoring. plus the Evo8 starts at around $28k, standard with brembo's and advan's all around.

I know; I couldn't help it :evil:

I'm sure it will get stomped in the twisties due to its weight.

And its ungodly weight distribution. It's like 120% front/-20% rear

I wouldn't buy it because I don't buy mitsubishis and I have no use for a crappy two door coupe. That said this car IS pretty good for its target audience, who are basically ricer 25 year olds. The price it is plus its performance is not bad at all, and drag light racers don't care about understeer. So basically I'm saying mitsubishi probably achieved what they set out to do, but I'm not a target consumer.

I doubt that it's any near as luxurious or as reliable as the Eclipse.

That's like comparing feces to scat

 

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: TuffGuy

Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1

And weighs on cars are increasing for a reason. First off, this is America, the land of Impalas, Crown Vics, and SUVs.

wtf does that have to do ANYTHING with this car?

its an extra heavy FWD coupe, and its a mitsubishi at that.

MIKE

It has EVERYTHING to do with this car. This car has been made for AMERICAN demand. Which is why it's not present in any other markets. American like big cars.

Which is why when Mitsu introduced the V6 3rd gen, sales increased.

At the turboed peak, the 1st gen and 2nd gen Eclipses never sold a lot of GSTs or GSXs. I think that they only accounted for 15% of the sales. Most of the ones still on the road today the NON-turbo versions. The V6 accounted for a huge portion of the 3nd gen sales.

uh.. if they are classifying this vehicle as a sports coupe, NO american wants a heavy sports coupe, thats a damn oxy-moron. G35 is NOT a sports coupe, thats a family sedan.The 350Z is their sports coupe. americans are beginning to want RWD vehicles. the impala is not a sports coupe, not anymore, notice the thing has 4 doors, and is MUCH smaller than that 94 Impala you are comparing it too? there is a 11 year difference dude, get your head straight, its a Mitsubishi, which already spells trouble, and it weighs so friggin much. and FWD, you are going to go beserk with that car, its just NOT going to sell.

MIKE

 

[TuffGuy]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: TuffGuy
Laugh all you want, but they're still more reliable than Fords and Chevys. And way better put together.

The Cobalt SS is not only slower than the new Eclipse, but at the end of the day, it's still a renamed Cavalier.

Very seriously doubt that. And it's a totally new vehicle, not a Cavalier.

Viper GTS

We'll see. It's too new to tell, but we all know that Chevy killed the Cavalier name and replaced it with Cobalt because of the Cavalier's crappy reputation and reliability.

 

[TuffGuy]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
And its ungodly weight distribution. It's like 120% front/-20% rear

Just like the Acura TLs - 3500lbs, 61/39. Yet I always hear people talking about how great it handles.

Originally posted by: Skoorb
That's like comparing feces to scat

Let's compare that crappy SpecV to the Ralliart. =)

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: TuffGuy

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: sniperruff
whether you like the styling or not, $23k for a sports coupe that goes 0-60 in 5.8s with a 5yr/60000 bumper to bumper warranty? pretty good if you ask me.

Umm...

SRT-4?

Viper GTS

You mean the glorified Neon? It only has a warranty of 3yrs/36k miles, and I doubt that it's any near as luxurious or as reliable as the Eclipse.

dude you are flat out smoking crack.

"luxurious" and "eclipse" don't go in the same sentence.

It reminds me of a pontiac sunfire or grand prix on the interior - where you're afraid to sneeze on it because you might break something.

 

[StageLeft]

Let's compare that crappy SpecV to the Ralliart. =)

Oh come on, nobody buys those (ralliart). Actually now that I mention it very few people buy spec-vs. I'm not really sure why though.

Just like the Acura TLs - 3500lbs, 61/39. Yet I always hear people talking about how great it handles.

I'd have thought the TL is more like a family cruiser sports sedan but-not-really. The eclipse definitely tries to portray a sportier image.

 

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: TuffGuy
Laugh all you want, but they're still more reliable than Fords and Chevys. And way better put together.

The Cobalt SS is not only slower than the new Eclipse, but at the end of the day, it's still a renamed Cavalier.

Very seriously doubt that. And it's a totally new vehicle, not a Cavalier.

Viper GTS

theres a reason MOST magazines say that the Cobalt is a VERY good car, hell id put it up there with foreigns, but its a less expensive car than the Civic, you can find them for 12 grand, very refined, but the steering on it is weird, lacks all feel because its electronic.

you can rag all you want, but theres no way in hell you can say Mitsubishi's are more reliable than america, Mitsu has been going going going bye bye for so long it isnt funny. they need help, bad, other companies have bailed them out previously.

MIKE

 

[QuitBanningMe]

"my grocery getter is better than this"
280z

and is it me or does the Eclipse just get uglier with each new generation?

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: QuitBanningMe
"my grocery getter is better than this"
280z

and is it me or does the Eclipse just get uglier with each new generation?

You do as well, but you're right with the mitsu

 

[QuitBanningMe]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: QuitBanningMe
"my grocery getter is better than this"
280z

and is it me or does the Eclipse just get uglier with each new generation?

You do as well, but you're right with the mitsu

:|

I like the interior but the rest is just really fvcking ugly

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Let's compare that crappy SpecV to the Ralliart. =)

Oh come on, nobody buys those (ralliart). Actually now that I mention it very few people buy spec-vs. I'm not really sure why though.

Just like the Acura TLs - 3500lbs, 61/39. Yet I always hear people talking about how great it handles.

I'd have thought the TL is more like a family cruiser sports sedan but-not-really. The eclipse definitely tries to portray a sportier image.

that and his numbers are off for the TL. But then again, its not a "sports coupe"

 

[TuffGuy]

Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1
uh.. if they are classifying this vehicle as a sports coupe, NO american wants a heavy sports coupe, thats a damn oxy-moron. G35 is NOT a sports coupe, thats a family sedan.The 350Z is their sports coupe. americans are beginning to want RWD vehicles. the impala is not a sports coupe, not anymore, notice the thing has 4 doors, and is MUCH smaller than that 94 Impala you are comparing it too? there is a 11 year difference dude, get your head straight, its a Mitsubishi, which already spells trouble, and it weighs so friggin much. and FWD, you are going to go beserk with that car, its just NOT going to sell.

MIKE

*cough*mustang*cough*
*cough*camaro*cough*
*cough*gto*cough*

G35 coupe is just that, a COUPE. what are you, a moron? The G35 sedan is... guess what, a SEDAN.

The 350Z doesn't even have rear seats!!!

Fine, you don't liek the Impala analogy? Let me list some other bloated "American" cars: the Monte Carlo, all the SUVs, the Crown Vic, the 500, the 300C, the Mustang, the LS, the Town Car, the Grand Marquis, the Sable, the Taurus, the Marauder, etc.

Face it, Americans like big, floaty cars.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: TuffGuy

Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1
uh.. if they are classifying this vehicle as a sports coupe, NO american wants a heavy sports coupe, thats a damn oxy-moron. G35 is NOT a sports coupe, thats a family sedan.The 350Z is their sports coupe. americans are beginning to want RWD vehicles. the impala is not a sports coupe, not anymore, notice the thing has 4 doors, and is MUCH smaller than that 94 Impala you are comparing it too? there is a 11 year difference dude, get your head straight, its a Mitsubishi, which already spells trouble, and it weighs so friggin much. and FWD, you are going to go beserk with that car, its just NOT going to sell.

MIKE

*cough*mustang*cough*
*cough*camaro*cough*
*cough*gto*cough*

G35 coupe is just that, a COUPE. what are you, a moron? The G35 sedan is... guess what, a SEDAN.

The 350Z doesn't even have rear seats!!!

Fine, you don't liek the Impala analogy? Let me list some other bloated "American" cars: the Monte Carlo, all the SUVs, the Crown Vic, the 500, the 300C, the Mustang, the LS, the Town Car, the Grand Marquis, the Sable, the Taurus, the Marauder, etc.

Face it, Americans like big, floaty cars.

not 4000 pounds big.

this is a flop, like the 3000GT.