You're talking about the Neon right?
It does when you're comparing it to the Neon or the Celica. Have you ever been in either of those cars?
You're talking about the Neon right?Originally posted by: spidey07
It reminds me of a pontiac sunfire or grand prix on the interior - where you're afraid to sneeze on it because you might break something.
It does when you're comparing it to the Neon or the Celica. Have you ever been in either of those cars?Originally posted by: spidey07
dude you are flat out smoking crack.
"luxurious" and "eclipse" don't go in the same sentence.
I'm not gonna really argue with you there. The Eclipse should be sportier (and we dont' know that it isn't), but people always talk about how well the TL handles.Originally posted by: Skoorb
I'd have thought the TL is more like a family cruiser sports sedan but-not-really. The eclipse definitely tries to portray a sportier image.
Originally posted by: TuffGuy
*cough*mustang*cough*Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1
uh.. if they are classifying this vehicle as a sports coupe, NO american wants a heavy sports coupe, thats a damn oxy-moron. G35 is NOT a sports coupe, thats a family sedan.The 350Z is their sports coupe. americans are beginning to want RWD vehicles. the impala is not a sports coupe, not anymore, notice the thing has 4 doors, and is MUCH smaller than that 94 Impala you are comparing it too? there is a 11 year difference dude, get your head straight, its a Mitsubishi, which already spells trouble, and it weighs so friggin much. and FWD, you are going to go beserk with that car, its just NOT going to sell.
MIKE
*cough*camaro*cough*
*cough*gto*cough*
G35 coupe is just that, a COUPE. what are you, a moron? The G35 sedan is... guess what, a SEDAN.
The 350Z doesn't even have rear seats!!!
Fine, you don't liek the Impala analogy? Let me list some other bloated "American" cars: the Monte Carlo, all the SUVs, the Crown Vic, the 500, the 300C, the Mustang, the LS, the Town Car, the Grand Marquis, the Sable, the Taurus, the Marauder, etc.
Face it, Americans like big, floaty cars.
How are my numbers off. Correct me and post the correct ones. Please.Originally posted by: spidey07
that and his numbers are off for the TL. But then again, its not a "sports coupe"Originally posted by: Skoorb
Oh come on, nobody buys those (ralliart). Actually now that I mention it very few people buy spec-vs. I'm not really sure why though.Let's compare that crappy SpecV to the Ralliart. =)I'd have thought the TL is more like a family cruiser sports sedan but-not-really. The eclipse definitely tries to portray a sportier image.Just like the Acura TLs - 3500lbs, 61/39. Yet I always hear people talking about how great it handles.
Originally posted by: TuffGuy
You're talking about the Neon right?Originally posted by: spidey07
It reminds me of a pontiac sunfire or grand prix on the interior - where you're afraid to sneeze on it because you might break something.
It does when you're comparing it to the Neon or the Celica. Have you ever been in either of those cars?Originally posted by: spidey07
dude you are flat out smoking crack.
"luxurious" and "eclipse" don't go in the same sentence.
Originally posted by: spidey07
*cough*mustang*cough*
*cough*camaro*cough*
*cough*gto*cough*
G35 coupe is just that, a COUPE. what are you, a moron? The G35 sedan is... guess what, a SEDAN.
The 350Z doesn't even have rear seats!!!
Fine, you don't liek the Impala analogy? Let me list some other bloated "American" cars: the Monte Carlo, all the SUVs, the Crown Vic, the 500, the 300C, the Mustang, the LS, the Town Car, the Grand Marquis, the Sable, the Taurus, the Marauder, etc.
Face it, Americans like big, floaty cars.
That's what people said about the 3rd gen. Guess what? It was the best selling Eclipse EVER.Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1
the car isnt going to sell.
MIKE
Originally posted by: TuffGuy
That's what people said about the 3rd gen. Guess what? It was the best selling Eclipse EVER.Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1
the car isnt going to sell.
MIKE
We're talking about LUXURIOUS. Since you've been in a Celica, you must know how loud they are and how much wind noise gets in, especially at freeway speeds.Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: TuffGuy
You're talking about the Neon right?Originally posted by: spidey07
It reminds me of a pontiac sunfire or grand prix on the interior - where you're afraid to sneeze on it because you might break something.
It does when you're comparing it to the Neon or the Celica. Have you ever been in either of those cars?Originally posted by: spidey07
dude you are flat out smoking crack.
"luxurious" and "eclipse" don't go in the same sentence.
Yes, I have. I'm a car guy, I generally try to drive as many cars as possible. As underpowered as it is the celica/neon would be much more nimble than this pig. Shamefully the 1st gen eclipses were one of my favorit cars but its gone downhill from there.
And it was the second best selling sports coupe in the country, behind the (fleet selling) Mustang.Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1
compared to other crappy selling eclipses.Originally posted by: TuffGuy
That's what people said about the 3rd gen. Guess what? It was the best selling Eclipse EVER.Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1
the car isnt going to sell.
MIKE
badum ching! RIMSHOT
MIKE
I might as well ask the same question. Why bother debating with Mitsu haters. Even if it's a good product, those idiots only see a Mitsu badge.Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Why bother debating with a fanboy? We may as well start an Intel/AMD fight next.
Originally posted by: TuffGuy
How are my numbers off. Correct me and post the correct ones. Please.Originally posted by: spidey07
that and his numbers are off for the TL. But then again, its not a "sports coupe"Originally posted by: Skoorb
Oh come on, nobody buys those (ralliart). Actually now that I mention it very few people buy spec-vs. I'm not really sure why though.Let's compare that crappy SpecV to the Ralliart. =)I'd have thought the TL is more like a family cruiser sports sedan but-not-really. The eclipse definitely tries to portray a sportier image.Just like the Acura TLs - 3500lbs, 61/39. Yet I always hear people talking about how great it handles.
Originally posted by: TuffGuy
We're talking about LUXURIOUS. Since you've been in a Celica, you must know how loud they are and how much wind noise gets in, especially at freeway speeds.Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: TuffGuy
You're talking about the Neon right?Originally posted by: spidey07
It reminds me of a pontiac sunfire or grand prix on the interior - where you're afraid to sneeze on it because you might break something.
It does when you're comparing it to the Neon or the Celica. Have you ever been in either of those cars?Originally posted by: spidey07
dude you are flat out smoking crack.
"luxurious" and "eclipse" don't go in the same sentence.
Yes, I have. I'm a car guy, I generally try to drive as many cars as possible. As underpowered as it is the celica/neon would be much more nimble than this pig. Shamefully the 1st gen eclipses were one of my favorit cars but its gone downhill from there.
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Why bother debating with a fanboy? We may as well start an Intel/AMD fight next.
Originally posted by: TuffGuy
And it was the second best selling sports coupe in the country, behind the (fleet selling) Mustang.Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1
compared to other crappy selling eclipses.Originally posted by: TuffGuy
That's what people said about the 3rd gen. Guess what? It was the best selling Eclipse EVER.Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1
the car isnt going to sell.
MIKE
badum ching! RIMSHOT
MIKE
3557lbs, 61/39 splitOriginally posted by: spidey07
google is your friend...
http://autos.yahoo.com/newcars/acura_tl...ylt=AhGECCDZ34GYH5x21qngYQHZNcQF?p=all
Originally posted by: TuffGuy
3557lbs, 61/39 splitOriginally posted by: spidey07
google is your friend...
http://autos.yahoo.com/newcars/acura_tl...ylt=AhGECCDZ34GYH5x21qngYQHZNcQF?p=all
3465lbs, 60/40 split
Compared to the SRT-4 and the Celica? HELL YES.Originally posted by: spidey07
exactly...you're calling an eclipse luxurios. I call shens.
Dunno, you tell me, since you're implying that there were no others.Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1
what other sports coupes were out at that time.
MIKE
Yes, they were off. I said that the Eclipse's 3500lbs and 62/38 split were similar to the TLs.Originally posted by: spidey07
exactly, you're numbers were off. Thanks for owning yourself.Originally posted by: TuffGuy
3557lbs, 61/39 splitOriginally posted by: spidey07
google is your friend...
http://autos.yahoo.com/newcars/acura_tl...ylt=AhGECCDZ34GYH5x21qngYQHZNcQF?p=all
3465lbs, 60/40 split
Originally posted by: TuffGuy
Compared to the SRT-4 and the Celica? HELL YES.Originally posted by: spidey07
exactly...you're calling an eclipse luxurios. I call shens.
heh, you got me there. I'm a hard sell on anything with that badgeOriginally posted by: TuffGuy
I might as well ask the same question. Why bother debating with Mitsu haters. Even if it's a good product, those idiots only see a Mitsu badge.Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Why bother debating with a fanboy? We may as well start an Intel/AMD fight next.
Yes, I like it too, but it is a new car, so we have no idea how reliable or how good it is.Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1
your forgetting the Cobalt SS. its a MUCH better car than a neon is. MUCH MUCH MUCH better. and it sure as hell aint no cavalier as you describe it. many people on here will say its a very nice car.Originally posted by: TuffGuy
Compared to the SRT-4 and the Celica? HELL YES.Originally posted by: spidey07
exactly...you're calling an eclipse luxurios. I call shens.
MIKE