Robert Muelleur team members indicate Bill Barr's summary of their report is not reflective of the actual results

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Greenman

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I have trouble understanding why Bar would misrepresent the content of the report when it's authors and contributors clearly have the will and ability to challenge him. It's stupid beyond comprehension.
 

fskimospy

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Although based on your passage I would vehemently disagree with Klein that the media has somehow not reported on Trump’s corruption and has instead focused on Russia. There have been massive stories on Trump’s corruption left and right.
 

fskimospy

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I have trouble understanding why Bar would misrepresent the content of the report when it's authors and contributors clearly have the will and ability to challenge him. It's stupid beyond comprehension.

Probably trying to set the narrative ahead of time. I don’t think it will work in this case though because what’s happening now is ironically similar to what Russia and Wikileaks did to Clinton during the campaign. Small new stories keep coming out one after another that each point to his and Trump’s dishonesty, meaning the public continues to be engaged in an escalating scandal.

I don’t think that Barr lied, insofar as ‘lying’ means making factually false statements. For example I don’t think that Mueller said Trump’s campaign engaged in a criminal conspiracy with the Russian government. I strongly suspect that Barr gave a highly misleading account of what the report says, however.
 

VRAMdemon

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Here's a couple of interesting tweets from Matthew Miller

Wow. Mueller’s team went nearly two years without a single leak. They must be quite frustrated with what Barr is doing for this to make it out now.
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Just noting: a number of Mueller’s team members are leaving or have left the Justice Department. There’s nothing DOJ can do to stop them from talking to Congress

And..

Virginia Heffernan (via source): bad for president

https://twitter.com/page88/status/11...339155968?s=21
 

blankslate

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Although based on your passage I would vehemently disagree with Klein that the media has somehow not reported on Trump’s corruption and has instead focused on Russia. There have been massive stories on Trump’s corruption left and right.

And what has been in the news lately...

Not Trump's other crimes... instead only the Mueller report and Trump's statements on it. sure perhaps mentions of his other Crimes that should be investigated but not on enough outlets.

Naomi Klein is CORRECT. she didn't say his other crimes were not reported on... just that not enough attention was paid to his crimes for which clear evidence was already ready to be brought to light and did not have to wait until the completion of an investigation by Mueller.

Because of people chasing the "sexier" Investigation story....

And in case you missed it there is a link where you can listen to the audio file while doing other things on the computer.


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dank69

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I have trouble understanding why Bar would misrepresent the content of the report when it's authors and contributors clearly have the will and ability to challenge him. It's stupid beyond comprehension.
While I am not surprised that so many Americans were gullible enough to believe so much misinformation about Hillary, I was very surprised that their brains had become so mushy that millions of them would actually think voting for a bad reality TV star was the preferable option. All we learn each and every new day is that there is no bottom to how retarded people can act, especially from the GOP politicians, and the executive branch in particular.
 

dank69

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And what has been in the news lately...

Not Trump's other crimes... instead only the Mueller report and Trump's statements on it. sure perhaps mentions of his other Crimes that should be investigated but not on enough outlets.

Naomi Klein is CORRECT. she didn't say his other crimes were not reported on... just that not enough attention was paid to his crimes for which clear evidence was already ready to be brought to light and did not have to wait until the completion of an investigation by Mueller.

Because of people chasing the "sexier" Investigation story....

And in case you missed it there is a link where you can listen to the audio file while doing other things on the computer.


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The media reports all that other stuff. You don't see it as much because America does not care as much about that other stuff. If people were clicking on those links the media would react by creating more links in more places. That is all they do these days.
 
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fskimospy

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And what has been in the news lately...

Not Trump's other crimes... instead only the Mueller report and Trump's statements on it. sure perhaps mentions of his other Crimes that should be investigated but not on enough outlets.

Naomi Klein is CORRECT. she didn't say his other crimes were not reported on... just that not enough attention was paid to his crimes for which clear evidence was already ready to be brought to light and did not have to wait until the completion of an investigation by Mueller.

Because of people chasing the "sexier" Investigation story....

And in case you missed it there is a link where you can listen to the audio file while doing other things on the computer.


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It's not the media's fault that not enough attention was paid, it's America's fault. The New York Times reported that Trump engaged in tax fraud worth hundreds of millions of dollars and people basically shrugged. The Washington Post reported that Trump's 'charity' was basically a colossal fraud and nobody cared. The media is all over this stuff, over and over again. Naomi Klein is engaging in confirmation bias. It's the same thing that Greenwald and Taibbi did - they were invested in the Russia investigation being wrong and so when Barr appeared to confirm that they jumped all over it. Now they've destroyed their own credibility because they approached the issue emotionally instead of logically.
 

VRAMdemon

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The media reports all that other stuff. You don't see it as much because America does not care as much about that other stuff. If people were clicking on those links the media would react by creating more links in more places. That is all they do these days.

Just to add...the media (Times, Post etc..) does report on Trumps myriad of crimes and corruption..the problem is 40% of the country have been brainwashed into believing its "fake news"
 
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fskimospy

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Just to add...the media (Times, Post etc..) does report on Trumps myriad of crimes and corruption..the problem is 40% of the country have been brainwashed into believing its "fake news"

It feels like it's basically on a weekly basis now that a major media outlet comes out with a new, colossal scandal. Remember how it turned out that people from Trump's golf club were in some ways running the VA? Maybe you don't because that was like ten scandals ago!
 
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I have trouble understanding why Bar would misrepresent the content of the report when it's authors and contributors clearly have the will and ability to challenge him. It's stupid beyond comprehension.

This administration has proven it can hire stupid.
Seems like the key credential all applicants must have is the ability to suck the Presidents balls.

Current administration & advisors can’t even agree upon how many pages the report is. Going by public statements it’s somewhere between 200 to 700 pages.
 
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chitwood

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What they unintentionally did was lower the expectations of the Mueller report, when in fact the suspicion has been all along that it was WORSE than Barr has stated. That is going to end badly, it is possible Barr just walked into an obstruction charge.
 

cytg111

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I have trouble understanding why Bar would misrepresent the content of the report when it's authors and contributors clearly have the will and ability to challenge him. It's stupid beyond comprehension.



I think instead of looking at it from a "Why would Barr" perspective (cause in the context of Trump he is largely unproven - BESIDES the job application for the AG job he sent on his own accord, stating that he Hated Mueller and all democrats).. you could look at it from a "From the whole of the swamp would Trump be able to reel in a critter to do the job that he couldnt get Sessions to do?"
Of course there is a "Barr" .. I am betting there is a 100+ "Barr"s left.
 

fskimospy

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I think instead of looking at it from a "Why would Barr" perspective (cause in the context of Trump he is largely unproven - BESIDES the job application for the AG job he sent on his own accord, stating that he Hated Mueller and all democrats).. you could look at it from a "From the whole of the swamp would Trump be able to reel in a critter to do the job that he couldnt get Sessions to do?
Of course there is a "Barr" .. I am betting there is a 100+ "Barr"s left.

I mean in the context of Trump Barr is unproven but in the context of 'helping Republican administrations paper over criminal activity' he's very well proven. He helped GHWB pardon those convicted in the Iran-Contra scandal, after all.
 

HomerJS

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Probably trying to set the narrative ahead of time. I don’t think it will work in this case though because what’s happening now is ironically similar to what Russia and Wikileaks did to Clinton during the campaign. Small new stories keep coming out one after another that each point to his and Trump’s dishonesty, meaning the public continues to be engaged in an escalating scandal.

I don’t think that Barr lied, insofar as ‘lying’ means making factually false statements. For example I don’t think that Mueller said Trump’s campaign engaged in a criminal conspiracy with the Russian government. I strongly suspect that Barr gave a highly misleading account of what the report says, however.
Example: The Russian mafia is an unofficial adjunct of the government.
 
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blankslate

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The media reports all that other stuff. You don't see it as much because America does not care as much about that other stuff. If people were clicking on those links the media would react by creating more links in more places. That is all they do these days.

I see it because I search it out. I don't see it on the main media cable news outlets because I don't watch it as much anymore... when did I stop... oh yeah about two years or so ago....


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Greenman

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This administration has proven it can hire stupid.
Seems like the key credential all applicants must have is the ability to suck the Presidents balls.

Current administration & advisors can’t even agree upon how many pages the report is. Going by public statements it’s somewhere between 200 to 700 pages.
There is stupid and there is STUPID. Every news outlet in the country has been talking about this report for the last two years. There isn't a week goes by without someone talking about the walls closing in on Trump, about this being the beginning of the end. This is the most anticipated document of the last twenty five years, and everyone that had anything to do with it's creation is a phone call away.
There is absolutely no way to misrepresent the information and get away with it. To attempt it is ignorance bordering on retardation. No one with a job is that stupid.
 
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fskimospy

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There is stupid and there is STUPID. Every news outlet in the country has been talking about this report for the last two years. There isn't a week goes by without someone talking about the walls closing in on Trump, about this being the beginning of the end. This is the most anticipated document of the last twenty five years, and everyone that had anything to do with it's creation is a phone call away.
There is absolutely no way to misrepresent the information and get away with it. To attempt it is ignorance bordering on retardation. No one with a job is that stupid.

If current reporting on leaks from Muller's team is accurate that's exactly what Barr did so I guess at least one person with a job is that stupid, haha.
 

fskimospy

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I mean Mueller wrote his own summary that Barr elected not to use, instead substituting his own summary that Mueller's team is now disputing.
 

UberNeuman

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I have trouble understanding why Bar would misrepresent the content of the report when it's authors and contributors clearly have the will and ability to challenge him. It's stupid beyond comprehension.

Lol. You’re a constant display of “not understanding.” You, like your fellow Trump lovers, just don’t want to face the painful truth that is reality.

HUHWHATIDUNTKNOW???
 

cytg111

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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/do...ice-mueller-report-officials-tell-new-n990776

According to a senior law enforcement official who has spoken to members of Mueller's team, Mueller team members say it includes detailed accounts of Trump campaign contacts with Russia. While Mueller found no coordination or criminal conspiracy, the official said, some team members say his findings paint a picture of a campaign whose members were manipulated by a sophisticated Russian intelligence operation. Some of that information may be classified, the official said, so it's not clear whether it will be released in a few weeks when Barr makes public a redacted version of the Mueller report.

Let it all rip ffs .. release the damned report already you fat f*...
 
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dank69

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I see it because I search it out. I don't see it on the main media cable news outlets because I don't watch it as much anymore... when did I stop... oh yeah about two years or so ago....


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I see all this stuff in yahoo news feed every day. Not political news feed. Just news feed. These stories come up and there are usually at least 3 different versions from a few sources. Nobody clicks them and they fall off. Meanwhile, anything with Mueller in it gets regurgitated for a few hours. Anything Kardashian gets regurgitated for a few days.
 

Jhhnn

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I have trouble understanding why Bar would misrepresent the content of the report when it's authors and contributors clearly have the will and ability to challenge him. It's stupid beyond comprehension.

He may yet put out an honest product. OTOH, it's fundamentally wrong for any AG to act as the President's lawyer rather than as an honest administrator of the Law & the principles behind it. We'll see if Barr can figure that out.
 
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hal2kilo

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Hard to believe, but I now see Barr as an even lower sub-specie of Trump sycophant hyena than either McConnell or *ugh* fvcking Brett Kavanaugh.
Yep, had a number of people convinced he was an institutionalist, all the while he auditioned for the job, by saying a president can't be charged with obstruction of justice and had all kinds of executive privilege powers.
 
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