Robin Williams dead - committed suicide

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Muse

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All the same though he sure as hell wouldn't be the first to make a fortune and squander it, heck look at Curt Schilling, he put away $50 million from his pitching years then invested it all in a video game company which flopped, badly and he lost it all. He was reduced to auctioning off the famous bloody sock from the Sox championship in '04, it sold for $92K.
There are other famous people who burn through their fortunes as fast as they come. Mike Tyson comes to mind (See the documentary "Tyson"). There's a current boxer like that, can't remember his name, he's a top boxer.
 

fuzzybabybunny

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I'm wondering if anyone else feels, well, not surprised about this. Sudden passings are always a surprise, but the suicide part isn't so much. Robin was always one of the more eccentric figures in Hollywood. Every interview I ever saw of him was basically 80% or more of him performing impersonations, making voices, and cracking jokes, as if he felt like he needed to. But really, he could have just sat back and talked.

As someone who knows the desire to get people to like you through a funny mask, I could pick up on it immediately. I personally don't do that all the time and it's certainly not all I am, but I felt that that was what Robin was. Due to the frequency he was doing it, I always figured that he was always putting on the funny mask because that was the only way he felt comfortable with getting people to like him. I'm really sad by this, but not surprised.

Take Jon Stewart in comparison. Funny as hell, but he can instantly become serious on real issues, and doesn't feel the need to be the talking monkey. In fact, the talking monkey bit happened when he went on Fox News and the Fox commentator said "I like you better when you're funny. Go back to being funny." and Stewart just ripped him apart.

I personally liked Robin far, far more in his dramatic, serious scenes. The scene in Patch Adams where he is crying with his head on the casket of his girlfriend or wife is heartbreaking.
 

Wyndru

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I'm wondering if anyone else feels, well, not surprised about this. Sudden passings are always a surprise, but the suicide part isn't so much. Robin was always one of the more eccentric figures in Hollywood. Every interview I ever saw of him was basically 80% or more of him performing impersonations, making voices, and cracking jokes, as if he felt like he needed to. But really, he could have just sat back and talked.

As someone who knows the desire to get people to like you through a funny mask, I could pick up on it immediately. I personally don't do that all the time and it's certainly not all I am, but I felt that that was what Robin was. Due to the frequency he was doing it, I always figured that he was always putting on the funny mask because that was the only way he felt comfortable with getting people to like him. I'm really sad by this, but not surprised.

Take Jon Stewart in comparison. Funny as hell, but he can instantly become serious on real issues, and doesn't feel the need to be the talking monkey. In fact, the talking monkey bit happened when he went on Fox News and the Fox commentator said "I like you better when you're funny. Go back to being funny." and Stewart just ripped him apart.

I personally liked Robin far, far more in his dramatic, serious scenes. The scene in Patch Adams where he is crying with his head on the casket of his girlfriend or wife is heartbreaking.

From what I've noticed of him is that he would try his hardest to make people laugh one moment and then be serious the next. I thought it was interesting that Matt Lauer pointed this out as one of his strong talents this morning, stating that it was like a switch would go off in him changing his personality on the spot. My wife used to get annoyed by this, she said it was exhausting to watch him bounce back and forth.

Like you said it always seemed forced...it's too bad he couldn't just sit back and relax.
 
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fuzzybabybunny

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From what I've noticed of him for a long time...Robin would swing he would try his hardest to make people laugh one moment and then be serious the next. I thought it was interesting that Matt Lauer pointed this out as one of his strong talents this morning, stating that it was like a switch would go off in him changing his mood on the spot.
I think we may have different definitions of "serious." He would try to be funny (and I could tell he was trying with all of the physical effort to impersonate or make voices) and then go back to being normal and answering questions normally. But I never saw him being "serious." Sharing deep thoughts, things that were bothering him, things he wish could be better.

He was always normal for a short bit and then would go into full on clown performance mode. But he was never actually serious or shared serious issues that are no laughing matter, at least in the interviews I saw.
 

Capt Caveman

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I think we may have different definitions of "serious." He would try to be funny (and I could tell he was trying with all of the physical effort to impersonate or make voices) and then go back to being normal and answering questions normally. But I never saw him being "serious." Sharing deep thoughts, things that were bothering him, things he wish could be better.

He was always normal for a short bit and then would go into full on clown performance mode. But he was never actually serious or shared serious issues that are no laughing matter, at least in the interviews I saw.

I'm guessing you never saw any of his interviews in regards to entertaining our armed forces when after his performance, he would go to meet all the soliders(cooks, security, etc) that weren't able to see his performance or him talking about his kids.
 

Miramonti

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Depression is a tragedy, this is an unfortunate symptom.

R.I.P Robin Williams, you were loved and always will be.
 

Mai72

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They are saying that Robin had serious money issues. He went thru 2 divorces which dwindled his bank account to nothing. He was forced to take roles that he didn't want to take. Sad...

With financial pressures weighing, the insider said that the cancellation of The Crazy Ones in May sent him spiraling.

&#8220;Robin slipped into a deep depression,&#8221; the source said. &#8220;He felt embarrassed and humiliated that the show had been a failure. It was very hard for Robin to accept. Here he was in his sixties, and forced to take a role on television for the money. It&#8217;s just not where he thought he would be at this point in his life.&#8221;

http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2...eath-claims-friend-was-the-pressure-too-much/
 

BUTCH1

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There are other famous people who burn through their fortunes as fast as they come. Mike Tyson comes to mind (See the documentary "Tyson"). There's a current boxer like that, can't remember his name, he's a top boxer.

Unfortunately RW didn't get a pre-nup in place in his previous two marriages, anyone who is wort many millions of dollars is foolish IMO NOT to get a pre-nup in place, your spouse will always have it in the back of her/his mind that they can divorce you at any time and live rather well off your dime.
 

Thebobo

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A lot of his movies were depressing like a clown is depressing.

Awakenings - great movie based on a real story
but in the end it didn't matter

As far as his death I can't imagine the depth of his depression to the point where he could of stood up as he was hanging but didn't.
 

DigDog

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Surely i can't be the only one who saw this coming a mile away?

Manic personality alway comes with depression; if you thought he was normal you obviously didn't know him. Look at the media he's left and try to find an instance of him behaving *normally*, there isn't one.

He should never have quit coke, it was his lifeline.
 

surfsatwerk

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He should never have quit coke, it was his lifeline.

I don't see a lot of addicts living long enough to continue doing coke in their 60's. The guy had his demons, it is probably a miracle that he lived as long as he did.
 

Kaido

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From what I've noticed of him is that he would try his hardest to make people laugh one moment and then be serious the next. I thought it was interesting that Matt Lauer pointed this out as one of his strong talents this morning, stating that it was like a switch would go off in him changing his personality on the spot. My wife used to get annoyed by this, she said it was exhausting to watch him bounce back and forth.

Like you said it always seemed forced...it's too bad he couldn't just sit back and relax.

I read that movie directors had a really hard time with this because he wouldn't go by the script. Fortunately a lot of his improv stuff was hilarious & could actually be used in the cutting room, but high-end films have so many dependencies on people following their lines, everything from the story weave to the blocking for where the actors need to be standing so that they camera can focus on them & the microphone can pick them up - you can deliver hilarious lines, but if we can't hear you or see you, the footage is useless.
 

Kaido

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I don't see a lot of addicts living long enough to continue doing coke in their 60's. The guy had his demons, it is probably a miracle that he lived as long as he did.

I think we were all surprised he lived as long as he did - I was a big shocked to hear he was 63 years old. Being "on" all the time like he was (mentally) must have been super-hard to deal with.
 

manimal

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man if he was in that big of debt the shame he felt would magnify those suicidal thoughts. So sad
 
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