Rock climbers scale Yosemite El Capitan

SP33Demon

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http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/...ell-kevin-jorgeson-cap-historic-yosemite-feat

Is anyone else not that impressed by this from a sports standpoint? Very surprised it made it on ESPN, while more impressive sporting achievements like Ray Williams drug free heavyweight IPF victory (and record 909lb raw squat) representing the United States doesn't get a sniff of national news. Yes, I understand that climbing for 19 days straight with dime and razor sized cracks would royally suck but the odds of that happening again are high while a certified drug free 909 raw squat won't be happening for a long time, if ever (Ray has since hit 930 btw). Meh.
 
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Im impressed. More so than lifting heavy things. Much more skill involved and the possablity to fall to your death.

Takes some balls and i wish i had them cause i think it would be fun if i wasnt scared of hanging off cliff faces lol
 

Mai72

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Bah.

I've climbed HUGE mountains in Skyrim, and you don't see anyone writing a story about my adventures!
 

Carson Dyle

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Impressed? Yes.

El Cap has dozens of routes on it. It's been climbed hundreds, maybe thousands of times. There are even a couple of other free routes, but nothing approaching this level of difficulty. Forget about the 19 days they spent on the wall in this continuous push; they'd been working on the climb for at least six years.

There are shorter climbs all over the world that at their hardest point (crux) are more technically difficult. But they're climbs that are a single pitch of 80ft, 120ft, maybe 150ft in length. The thing about the Free Dawn Wall is its sustained difficulty, in addition to the two crux pitches that are really fucking hard. Eight pitches of 5.12, twelve pitches of 5.13 and seven pitches of 5.14. That's just insane.

Even at that, it's amazing that it got the kind of news coverage that it did.

 
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Belegost

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Bah.

I've climbed HUGE mountains in Skyrim, and you don't see anyone writing a story about my adventures!

When you play with a USB device that will shoot you when you fall off the Skyrim mountain we'll all be more impressed.
 

DesiPower

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"That's a deep, abiding, lifelong friendship, built over suffering on the wall together over six years," said Caldwell's mother, Terry, among some 200 people who broke into cheers from the Yosemite Valley floor thousands of feet below.

The mother said her son could have reached the top several days ago, but he waited for his friend to ensure they made it together

Damn women
 

blackdogdeek

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There's a difference between "free" and "free-solo"

Could someone explain it to me? I thought Honnold's accomplishment was supposed to be harder so I didn't understand why this climb was better. Did they climb different routes? Didn't his accomplishment have a much higher risk of death?
 
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everytime i go to CNN.com, I dread seeing the headline "Alex Honnold dead from climbing accident". i'm sure one day it will happen, but i hope it doesn't.
 

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Meh. A lot of people with very basic lifting training can squat 300+ pounds. That's 1/3 of what that dude did.

Most people would be hard up to get even 30 feet of that wall without falling. Thats 1% of the way. I don't really care how much some guy can grunt out while prolapsing his rectum. Just looking at this makes mine pucker up.

https://fbcdn-vthumb-a.akamaihd.net..._=1429738142_5e44f161bf8ee4ac2d7d8517f4855a90
 

jiggyest

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Could someone explain it to me? I thought Honnold's accomplishment was supposed to be harder so I didn't understand why this climb was better. Did they climb different routes? Didn't his accomplishment have a much higher risk of death?

In a nut shell?

"free climbing"
climbing with protection like ropes, cams, stoppers (but not fixed protection, that's aid climbing).

"free-solo"
no protection whatsoever.

Honnold's climb is more daring in that mistake = death. His hardest free solo maybe lower in grade (difficulty) and shorter in duration. But then again, only takes a single mistake to die.

Caldwell/Jorgeson, the route they did as mentioned earlier is much more difficult in grade, longer, and sustained. Although they brought gear, there's probably stretches where they were essentially "free-soloing" due to lack of placement for anchors/protection.

Either way, both accomplishments are worthy of praise in the climbing world.
 

waffleironhead

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That's nothing, earlier today I climbed up to the second floor and posted a passive aggressive note on my neighbors door. All without pants on.
 

SP33Demon

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Meh. A lot of people with very basic lifting training can squat 300+ pounds. That's 1/3 of what that dude did.

Most people would be hard up to get even 30 feet of that wall without falling. Thats 1% of the way. I don't really care how much some guy can grunt out while prolapsing his rectum. Just looking at this makes mine pucker up.

https://fbcdn-vthumb-a.akamaihd.net..._=1429738142_5e44f161bf8ee4ac2d7d8517f4855a90

Most people will never squat over 500 in their lives, yet 909 isn't impressive? Let alone representing the IPF Team USA for the strongest drug-free raw powerlifter in the world? Please. Your ass wouldn't pucker up, it would explode under 909 pounds as your delicate frame is crushed. Yet you would actually have a chance to train and climb el capitan in 5 years. I'd be willing to bet that in no amount of years could you squat at least 500 or more.
http://youtu.be/BG6E6n_W5v8
 

zinfamous

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http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/...ell-kevin-jorgeson-cap-historic-yosemite-feat

Is anyone else not that impressed by this from a sports standpoint? Very surprised it made it on ESPN, while more impressive sporting achievements like Ray Williams drug free heavyweight IPF victory (and record 909lb raw squat) representing the United States doesn't get a sniff of national news. Yes, I understand that climbing for 19 days straight with dime and razor sized cracks would royally suck but the odds of that happening again are high while a certified drug free 909 raw squat won't be happening for a long time, if ever (Ray has since hit 930 btw). Meh.

some meathead lifted a big rock? why are you impressed by that? Even dumber that he didn't juice up to make it easier.

meh.
 
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