Rocket scientist harassed over shirt

[justoh]

It gives rocket science a bad name; it makes them look like a bunch of dorks with the fashion sense of a porn producer.

Your point being?

 

[dainthomas]

Yes, and I think this is a stance a lot of people are taking. I also think that if it were limited to that there wouldn't have been any real controversy and the press coverage would have been a lot lower. But we're talking about this now because a vocal group of people have deemed this "casual misogyny" and an example of how women aren't welcome in STEM.

Even though a woman gave him the shirt. Someone should let her know she's oppressing herself.

 

[BoberFett]

It gives rocket science a bad name; it makes them look like a bunch of dorks with the fashion sense of a porn producer.

So you're saying that judging people by their appearance is in fact the correct way to do things?

Good, we can all go back to the way things were, and only pretty women matter. Uggos should shut up.

Thanks for clearing that up.

 

[MrPickins]

Nah. It's simply idiotic and gives true feminism a bad name.

There's that small-mindedness, I was referring to.

Even though a woman gave him the shirt. Someone should let her know she's oppressing herself.

And if his black friends decided it was ok for him to say the n-word, would that have also been appropriate? (Before you get your undies in a bunch: yes, I know that was hyperbole.)

 

[justoh]

There's that small-mindedness, I was referring to.

Are you from texas by any chance?

 

[MrPickins]

Are you from texas by any chance?

Why?

Planning on painting me with a broad brush?

 

[Blanky]

Tiny bits of non-news gain traction in a social media world because some attention whore decides to hash tag it and somebody else thinks it's cute, so now a bunch of people care about a guy's search and demand he apologize for it.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

So you're saying that judging people by their appearance is in fact the correct way to do things?

Good, we can all go back to the way things were, and only pretty women matter. Uggos should shut up.

Thanks for clearing that up.

Oh, so we're just going for rampant hyperbole today? Is that why you want to kill every woman in the world? You depraved monster.

 

[Bitek]

Its obviously inappropriate for any work environment that isn't in the business of objectifing women.
Porn shoots, strip clubs etc.

If you are not working in one of those, you should have the sense not to wear something like this. Also not appropriate for going out in public.

The public reaction, whether or not you agree with it, its exactly why its inappropriate. If its going to offend a large number of people or likely embarrass your employer, don't wear it.

Now, I doubt he's a bad guy, doesn't deserve to get fired, but does need to get some sense slapped into him. A lot of these engineers/scientists are can often be a bit socially ackward and do stupid stuff like this.

I'm sure he's learned his lesson and no need to keep piling on at this point.

 

[BoberFett]

Do you suppose if this guy had been gay and wearing a shirt covered in cartoon dongs that such a fuss would have been made?

 

[BoberFett]

Oh, so we're just going for rampant hyperbole today? Is that why you want to kill every woman in the world? You depraved monster.

I'm just trying to stop and make you think before you rape any more babies.

 

[BoberFett]

Also not appropriate for going out in public.

So gay pride parades will now all be canceled?

What exactly is acceptable in public? Who gets to decide?

 

[justoh]

Why?

Planning on painting me with a broad brush?

That's sexist

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Do you suppose if this guy had been gay and wearing a shirt covered in cartoon dongs that such a fuss would have been made?

... Yes? Are you implying it wouldn't?

 

[MrPickins]

That's sexist

But that was your intention, correct? (To stereotype me based on where I live?)

I'll help you.

I am (in no particular order):

• pro-small government
• pro-gun
• pro-choice
• pro-environment
• pro-nuclear
• pro-woman
• pro-self-determination
• anti-war
• anti-tax

Which of your little groups do I fit in? :hmm:

 

[BoberFett]

... Yes? Are you implying it wouldn't?

That's exactly what I'm implying.

If there was any outrage over flamboyantly gay attire in the "wrong setting" it would be coming from an entirely different group. The right wing nutjobs would be up in arms.

Instead the only ones up in arms are the left wing nutjobs. It's always nice of you to self-identify so normal people can ignore your insanity.

 

[justoh]

But that was your intention, correct? (To stereotype me based on where I live?)

I'll help you.

I am (in no particular order):

• pro-small government
• pro-gun
• pro-choice
• pro-environment
• pro-nuclear
• pro-woman
• pro-self-determination
• anti-war
• anti-tax

Which of your little groups do I fit in? :hmm:

Please apologize for your blatant sexism from earlier, with tears. Or are you a hypocrite?

 

[MrPickins]

That's exactly what I'm implying.

If there was any outrage over flamboyantly gay attire in the "wrong setting" it would be coming from an entirely different group. The right wing nutjobs would be up in arms.

Instead the only ones up in arms are the left wing nutjobs. It's always nice of you to self-identify so normal people can ignore your insanity.

Yeah, none of the women in this guy's industry had any complaints, it's all from "left-wing nutjobs".

Oh wait, that's incorrect:

If you think this is just complaining from wannabes who can’t hold a candle to someone who just landed a probe on a comet, you’re wrong. Talk to my friend, the cosmologist Katie Mack. Or the planetary scientist Sarah Horst. Or geologist Mika McKinnon. Or astrophysicist Catherine Q.* Or planetary geologist Emily Lakdawalla. Or radio astronomer Nicole Gugliucci. Or professor and science communicator extraordinaire Pamela Gay. Or Carolyn Porco, who worked on the Voyager mission and is the leader of the Cassini imaging team, the space probe that’s been orbiting Saturn for over a decade now.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astr...sexism_when_a_shirt_is_more_than_a_shirt.html

Face it, that shirt was completely inappropriate for the event.

 

[MrPickins]

Please apologize for your blatant sexism from earlier, with tears. Or are you a hypocrite?

?


Edit:
If you're referring to "broad brush", you should ..ahem...brush up on your English idioms:

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/paint_with_a_broad_brush

 

[justoh]

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Edit:
If you're referring to "broad brush", you should ..ahem...brush up on your English idioms:

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/paint_with_a_broad_brush

Whether or not you intended to be offensive and whether it could reasonably be said to be offensive, i was offended, and now i'm demanding an apology. Stop deflecting.

 

[MrPickins]

Whether or not you intended to be offensive, i was offended, and now i'm demanding an apology. Stop deflecting.

Oh, I get it now! You're an idiot!

Yeah, if you can't tell the difference between you misinterpreting a phrase and someone wearing an obviously inappropriate shirt we're done here.

 

[justoh]

Oh, I get it now! You're an idiot!

Yeah, if you can't tell the difference between you misinterpreting a phrase and someone wearing an obviously inappropriate shirt we're done here.

I don't think you know what that word means.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

That's exactly what I'm implying.

If there was any outrage over flamboyantly gay attire in the "wrong setting" it would be coming from an entirely different group. The right wing nutjobs would be up in arms.

Instead the only ones up in arms are the left wing nutjobs. It's always nice of you to self-identify so normal people can ignore your insanity.

So your contention is that it is absolutely impossible for someone to think that a shirt featuring either half-naked women OR half-naked men is somehow inappropriate in a professional setting? Only feminists will complain about one, only "right wing nutjobs" the other? That's absurd. Most people would probably think that a shirt featuring a half-naked adult of any gender in a sexual pose is not something you should wear in a professional environment, period. It doesn't have to be about feminism or homophobia, it's about keeping sex out of the workplace. This is why so many professional offices have to resort to dress codes. Apparently the concept of "keep sexual situations out of the office" is too confounding for some people to grasp.

 

[BoberFett]

Face it, that shirt was completely inappropriate for the event.

And?

 

[BoberFett]

So your contention is that it is absolutely impossible for someone to think that a shirt featuring either half-naked women OR half-naked men is somehow inappropriate in a professional setting? Only feminists will complain about one, only "right wing nutjobs" the other? That's absurd. Most people would probably think that a shirt featuring a half-naked adult of any gender in a sexual pose is not something you should wear in a professional environment, period. It doesn't have to be about feminism or homophobia, it's about keeping sex out of the workplace. This is why so many professional offices have to resort to dress codes. Apparently the concept of "keep sexual situations out of the office" is too confounding for some people to grasp.

And the appropriateness of his dress is between him and his employer.

Tell you what, if you don't like his shirt, don't land your probe on the same comet he parked on.

Christ Al-fucking-mighty, people need to remove the gigantic sticks from their asses. Everyone is so damned offended by everything now.